Digestive Enzymes

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How exactly do these supplements work? Anyone have a good brand to recommend?

Anyone ever hear of " Health nuts ultimate enzymes? "

 

thanks

 

lucy

 

 

 

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Gettingwell, " Lucy " <b_thankfull@h...> wrote:

> How exactly do these supplements work? Anyone have a good brand to

recommend? Anyone ever hear of " Health nuts ultimate enzymes? "

 

Do mean how do digestive enzymes work in general? or do you have a

more specific question? I probably know a ridiculous amount about

digestive enzymes now but don't want to overload you with

information. I am on the enzymes and autism message board and we

discuss enzymes round the clock. Most people deal with autism because

of all the gut problems involved but others, like me, also use them

for migraines and chronic fatigue, and others for lupus, fibro,

irritable bowel diseases, digestive problems, Chron's, you name it.

 

It is located at enzymesandautism

and you can sign up for a monthly newletter if you like. The regular

board gets 40+ posts a day, it is really active and productive.

Karen.

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I use celltech enzymes and they work fast..

donna

In a message dated 01/1/12 11:13:34 PM, kjorn writes:

 

<< Gettingwell, " Lucy " <b_thankfull@h...> wrote:

> How exactly do these supplements work? Anyone have a good brand to

recommend? Anyone ever hear of " Health nuts ultimate enzymes? "

>>

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Essential oils added to enzymes seem to give them an extra boost.

 

Lynn

 

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Gettingwell, lhenley676@a... wrote:

> Essential oils added to enzymes seem to give them an extra boost.

 

Do you know why that is, and if it only helps certain enzymes?

 

I use the Peptizyde (for dairy/gluten/soy/proteins) and Zyme Prime

(everything else) from www.houstonni.com. Besides the food issues,

they have helped my migraines and chronic fatigue greatly.

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I use celltech enzymes and algae products

www.celltech.com

In a message dated 01/8/12 2:15:35 PM, slvrmoon2 writes:

 

<< Gettingwell, kjorn@t... wrote:

> Gettingwell, " Lucy " <b_thankfull@h...> wrote:

> > How exactly do these supplements work? Anyone have a good brand

to

> recommend? Anyone ever hear of " Health nuts ultimate enzymes? "

>

> Do mean >>

[Guest guest]

Gettingwell, kjorn@t... wrote:

> Gettingwell, " Lucy " <b_thankfull@h...> wrote:

> > How exactly do these supplements work? Anyone have a good brand

to

> recommend? Anyone ever hear of " Health nuts ultimate enzymes? "

>

> Do mean how do digestive enzymes work in general? or do you have a

> more specific question? I probably know a ridiculous amount about

> digestive enzymes now but don't want to overload you with

> information. I am on the enzymes and autism message board and we

> discuss enzymes round the clock. > Karen.

 

 

Hi Karen,

 

I am very happy to find someone who knows a lot on this subject.

I have a question. I have CFIDS/FM. Have had for many years. Along

with that comes GI problems. I have had a CDSA from Great Smokies

Lab and have severe intestinal dysbiosis and food sensitivities. My

ALCAT test showed only 20 foods that I have no sensitivities to.

 

Since I don't digest well, I have tried digestive enzymes in the

past. I had " some " initial success, or relief with plant enzymes and

probiotics. Unfortunately, I thought I was getting sensitive to

those and stopped.

 

Later I tried regular digestive enzymes with HCI. I thought I was

actually digesting better with them for awhile too, but after three

weeks of trying those, I started getting nauseous. I wasn't taking

much...maybe 1 capsule...2 at the most. It didn't occur to me that

was what was making me nauseous so I kept taking them...but very

quickly I started actually vomiting right after a meal. I had never

had this symptom before either. I stopped taking them and stopped

vomiting.

 

So, I am stuck right now. I am afraid to try any more, because I

don't want to develop sensitiviy to everything. I am pretty sure I

have a bacterial overgrowth of the small intestine. I am thinking

maybe I dont make enough HCI. Also my tests showed pancreatic

insufficiency.

 

I am trying to have salads with many of my meals, with vinegar to

help with acidity. This seems to help, but I know I am just treading

water. I follow the Gottschall diet..staying away from all sugar,

minimal fruit, no grains, no dairy. Mostly just meat, fish and

vegetables. I also have to rotate all my food on a four day basis.

 

I am trying to figure out whether to just stop addressing the GI

problems all together for awhile, and instead try addressing the

sensitivities and try to resolve that first. But what to do in the

meantime with the GI tract?

 

I have a few ideas...try veggie juicing, easier to digest. But I

can't juice around the clock, I don't tolerate an all raw foods diet.

I also would be trying to stay clear of fruits because of sugar and I

have to rotate a limited amount of veggies, so I don't know how

successful this would be. I could try to find a compromise.

 

Or, start taking vinegar with every meal to try to keep the bacteria

in check. I do think I could take probiotics...I haven't had trouble

with these in the past.

 

I also am wondering about Immunocal..whey products?

 

Other than that, I don't know what else to try? I wonder if you have

any ideas?

 

Thanks,

Jane

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<<I am thinking maybe I don't make enough HCI...>>

 

Here's a test that can help you determine if you have too much or too little

stomach acid (Prescription for Nutritional Healing, 1997):

 

STOMACH ACID SELF-TEST

Hydrochloric acid (HCL), which is produced by glands in the stomach, is

necessary for the breakdown and digestion of many foods. Insufficient

amounts of HCL can lead to indigestion. HCL levels often decline with age.

 

You can determine if you need more hydrochloric acid with this simple test.

Take a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar or lemon juice. If this makes your

indigestion go away, then you need more stomach acid. If it makes your

symptoms worse, then you have too much acid, and you should take care not to

take any supplements that contain HCL.

 

<<I am pretty sure I have a bacterial overgrowth of the small intestine...I

do think I could take probiotics...I haven't had trouble with these in the

past.>>

 

Do you mean candida overgrowth of the small intestine? Its important to

prevent such overgrowths to reduce the toxic burden they produce, improve

digestion and absorption, and fend off from leaky gut. More bacteria, in

the form of probiotics, is usually helpful.

 

<< Also my tests showed pancreatic insufficiency.>>

 

Pancreatin supplements may be helpful. Are insulin and glucagon levels

normal?

 

Rob

--

> Since I don't digest well, I have tried digestive enzymes in the

> past. I had " some " initial success, or relief with plant enzymes and

> probiotics. Unfortunately, I thought I was getting sensitive to

> those and stopped.

>

> Later I tried regular digestive enzymes with HCI. I thought I was

> actually digesting better with them for awhile too, but after three

> weeks of trying those, I started getting nauseous. I wasn't taking

> much...maybe 1 capsule...2 at the most. It didn't occur to me that

> was what was making me nauseous so I kept taking them...but very

> quickly I started actually vomiting right after a meal. I had never

> had this symptom before either. I stopped taking them and stopped

> vomiting.

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Gettingwell, " Rob Bartlett " <rob.bartlett@s...> wrote:

 

> <<I am thinking maybe I don't make enough HCI...>>

>

> Here's a test that can help you determine if you have too much or

too little stomach acid (Prescription for Nutritional Healing, 1997):

>

> STOMACH ACID SELF-TEST

> Hydrochloric acid (HCL), which is produced by glands in the

stomach, is necessary for the breakdown and digestion of many foods.

Insufficient amounts of HCL can lead to indigestion. HCL levels

often decline with age.

>

> You can determine if you need more hydrochloric acid with this

simple test. Take a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar or lemon

juice. If this makes your indigestion go away, then you need more

stomach acid. If it makes your symptoms worse, then you have too

much acid, and you should take care not to take any supplements that

contain HCL.

>

> <<I am pretty sure I have a bacterial overgrowth of the small

intestine...I do think I could take probiotics...I haven't had

trouble with these in the past.>>

>

> Do you mean candida overgrowth of the small intestine? Its

important to prevent such overgrowths to reduce the toxic burden they

produce, improve digestion and absorption, and fend off from leaky

gut. More bacteria, in the form of probiotics, is usually helpful.

>

> << Also my tests showed pancreatic insufficiency.>>

>

> Pancreatin supplements may be helpful. Are insulin and glucagon

levels normal?

>

> Rob

> --

 

 

Hi Rob,

 

Thanks for responding to my post. :-)

I have the Prescription for Nutritional Healing. I have tried that

test and my symptoms definitely improved, but as my previous post

mentioned...I have tried supplementing with enzymes and probiotics

and HCI, but I can't tolerate them. That is the reason I was looking

for other ideas.

 

I am not sure whether my insulin and glucagon are normal. The last

time I had a CBC my glucose was normal, but I don't think those tests

are routine.

 

Thanks,

Jane