CODEX & FDA/ Help Save our Supplements- Urgent! (TXT)

[Guest guest]

RE: Lecture on Cellular Health and the CODEX issue,

This is an extremely urgent issue that many are not aware of and it's far

reaching affect on the future of the freedom to purchase supplements. The

WHO (World Health Organization) will be voting on what's called " Codex

Alimentations " (sp?) and make their own internal recommendations as to what

can and cannot be sold off retail shelves as health supplements. Ok, so they

do that...then what happens is the FDA takes their recommendations and uses

them as a guideline herb in the good old USA. At the present time this CODEX

meeting will directly affect citizens in Germany as they already have

stricter guidelines than we do (as they consider supplements -herbs- to be

of a medicinal substance more than we do). This conclusion will not be

apparent immediately, but will down the road and very significantly. Ever

hear of the DSHEA Act of 1994? Well this ruling may override that to a great

degree. It is a very disconcerting issue.

(btw, did you know that red yeast rice (a very reliable supplement used to

reduce cholesterol) was just recently banned in the US? Oh yeah, because the

pharmacy won in court, stating that it was too identical to the prescription

form. Too bad, it worked very well.)

 

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Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:39 AM

CODEX / Help Save our Supplements- Urgent! (TXT)

 

 

> Vitamins for AllPLEASE VOTE! FOR YOUR HEALTH!

> CODEX / Help Save our Supplements- Urgent!

>

>

> http://www.vitamins-for-all.org

>

>

> http://www.vitamins-for-all.org/emailaction/openletter/codex_usa.html

>

>

>

> STOP THE CODEX ALIMENTARIUS!

> PROTECT VITAMIN FREEDOM!

> PREVENT THE WORLDWIDE BAN ON VITAMIN THERAPY

> IN THE INTEREST OF THE BILLION-DOLLAR PHARMACEUTICAL BUSINESS

>

> The Heads of State and Governments of the Nations of the Earth!

> The Decision-Makers at the World Health Organization (WHO), the Food

and

> Agriculture Organization (FAO) and the UN!

> The Members of the " Codex Alimentarius " -Commission!

> All Political Decision-Makers Worldwide!

> Dear Sirs,

> I am appealing to you as the doctor and scientist who led the worldwide

> breakthrough in research on the connection between vitamins and heart

> disease. I am also appealing to you in the name of millions of people

whose

> lives could be saved by this medical advance. Heart attack and stroke are

> not true diseases but rather the consequences of vitamin deficiency in the

> cells of artery walls. Similar to the seafarer's disease scurvy, years of

> vitamin deficiency lead to the weakening of the artery walls and to the

> dreaded fatty deposits that cause heart attacks and strokes.

>

> The scientific basis for the eradication of cardiovascular disease as the

> number one killer in the industrialized world has been established. The

> proof takes the form of research findings and clinical studies. Vitamins

and

> other natural substances that are needed for effective prevention and for

> basic therapy are available in sufficient quantities.

>

> The sole reason why this life-saving therapy has not been made available

to

> the people of the Earth is a deliberate information blockade by the

> pharmaceutical industry. This branch of industry has annual sales of over

> $230 billion dollars on cardiovascular disease medication alone. This

> medication only suppresses the symptoms without remedying the true causes.

> The discovery of the link between heart disease and scurvy will inevitably

> lead to the collapse of this billion-dollar market in superfluous

> pharmaceutical drugs. To prevent this, the pharmaceutical industry has

come

> together to form a worldwide cartel.

>

> The goal of this pharmaceutical cartel is to eliminate the competition

posed

> by health claims about vitamins and other natural therapies. This takes

the

> form of national, European and worldwide censorship laws for the targeted

> suppression of this life-saving health information.

>

> To prevent the medical breakthrough I have initiated, the pharmaceutical

> cartel is even abusing the highest political body in the world, the United

> Nations.

>

> Via the abuse of the World Health Organization and FAO's Codex

Alimentarius

> Commission, the aim is to legally ban the world's access to life-saving,

> side-effect-free and economical natural therapies in all UN member-states.

> The next meeting of the Codex pharmaceutical cartel is from November

26-30th

> in Berlin - under the aegis of the German federal government!

>

> Via this letter, I am urgently calling on you, in the name of all

humanity,

> to:

> Say no to the pharmaceutical cartel's Codex Alimentarius plans.

>

> Commit yourself to providing the population of your country and the entire

> world with free and unrestricted access to life-saving vitamins and other

> natural therapies.

>

> Promote vitamin therapies and other scientifically proven natural

therapies

> as a vital component of the health-care system in your countries.

>

> Fight for comprehensive patient and consumer protection from hazardous and

> often deadly pharmaceutical drugs!

>

> The right to health of millions of people is more important than the

> financial interests of a handful of pharmaceutical company shareholders!

> Health must become a human right!

> Yours truly,

> Matthias Rath, M.D.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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" Elaine121 " <Elaine121

<Undisclosed-Recipient:;@connect.com.au>

Monday, November 26, 2001 1:34 PM

CODEX & FDA/ Help Save our Supplements- Urgent! (TXT)

 

 

> RE: Lecture on Cellular Health and the CODEX issue,

> This is an extremely urgent issue that many are not aware of and it's far

> reaching affect on the future of the freedom to purchase supplements. The

> WHO (World Health Organization) will be voting on what's called " Codex

> Alimentations " (sp?) and make their own internal recommendations as to what

> can and cannot be sold off retail shelves as health supplements.

 

Hi Elaine,

 

I find it interesting that in countries like Australia, with a health system

paid for by the government, herbal and

alternative approaches designed to keep people healthy and OUT of the doctor's

surgery / hospital are in favour as they

reduce government expenditure, yet in countries like the US with no public

system to speak of, there is little financial

incentive for the government to keep people healthy and maybe more to get them

to see the doctor and go into hospital.

 

Maybe a government funded health system will place more emphasis on disease

prevention and health optimization instead

of disease cure.

 

Australia is in fact setting up a world leading alternative health system with

university trained naturopathic health

professionals who will use alternative treatment systems, such as OTC herbal and

vit supplements.

 

I'm in that training program and working on my Naturopath degree now.

========================

Good Health & Long Life,

Greg Watson, gowatson

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PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe

KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe

[Guest guest]

<<Maybe a government funded health system will place more emphasis on

disease prevention and health optimization instead of disease cure.>>

 

Canada has a fully publicly funded system but its dominated by allopathic

(drugs, surgery, and radiation) interests. Physicians face discipline from

their provincial governing boards for using some alternative medicine

practices, and may not be compensated for using such preventative practices.

 

Its fee-for-service, assembly-line medicine, with the tax payer picking up

the bill. Its grossly wasteful and largely ineffective. Its a system that

enriches doctors and drug companies but does little to improve the health of

the population. Its cloaked the the banner of " evidence-based " , with the

only allowable " evidence " being randomized clinical trails (the specialty of

drug companies with the deep pockets to fund such gold-standard studies).

 

One would have to pay out-of-pocket to seek " alternative " approaches, such

as naturopathic medicine.

 

Rob

[Guest guest]

-

" Rob Bartlett " <rob.bartlett

 

Monday, November 26, 2001 10:27 PM

Re: CODEX & FDA/ Help Save our Supplements- Urgent! (TXT)

 

 

> One would have to pay out-of-pocket to seek " alternative " approaches, such

> as naturopathic medicine.

 

Hi Rob,

 

Also the case currently in Australia, except if you have private health

insurance. Seems these folks are interested in

keeping you healthy and actually give discounts for non smoking, going to the

gym and pay for Naturopathy visits

(assuming the Naturopath is registered with a professional group).

 

Once the Uni training of Naturopaths is completed and gov certification is

happening, Naturopaths will have access to

the gov health compensation system. Even now, some medical groups are adding

in Naturopaths, so things are changing

for the better.

 

Also the Oz government has a office covering OTC supplements and is setting

standards for production, quality,

tractability, etc.

========================

Good Health & Long Life,

Greg Watson, gowatson

USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/

PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe

KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe

[Guest guest]

<<Seems these folks [private health insurance] are interested in keeping you

healthy and actually give discounts for non smoking, going to the gym and

pay for Naturopathy visits (assuming the Naturopath is registered with a

professional group).>>

 

I was hoping to hear of an enterprising HMO (health maintenance

organization) in the U.S. also specializing in " natural " health care in an

effort to save on hospital costs and keep insurance rates low (and therefore

more competitive). Instead, we hear of HMO's restricting services such as

tests and access to specialists.

 

<<Once the Uni training of Naturopaths is completed and gov certification is

happening, Naturopaths will have access to the gov health compensation

system.>>

 

That's very promising. I'm sure that the allopaths are looking over their

shoulder.

 

<<Even now, some medical groups are adding in Naturopaths, so things are

changing for the better.>>

 

That's also quite progressive. Here, allopaths are politically powerful and

fear-monger the public if they perceive that their privilege, monopoly,

money, lack of accountability, or power to be threatened.

 

A system referred to 'capitation' would be an immense step forward. Under

'capitation', primary health services including physician services are

organized into health organizations which " complete " for members of the

public. One would obtain all their health services from such an

organization, but would be free to move to another organization should one

chose. The organizations would obtain a bulk annual payment from the public

purse based on the health risk status of the individual. The organization

would have to pay part of the cost of high-cost hospitalization so the

emphasis of service is on preventative care. Entrepreneurial health care

organizations would add in " complementary " health services such as

acupuncture and naturopathy in order retain and attract members. Physicians

and all health care staff would be pain salaries (not fee for service, which

perversely rewards the treatment of illness).

 

<<Also the Oz government has a office covering OTC supplements and is

setting standards for production, quality, tractability, etc.>>

 

Same here. The goals are freedom of access, freedom from contamination,

true-to-label potency, and supportable health claims. The Office of Natural

Products became a reality when it became an issue in the federal election 6

years ago. Canadians, especially Canadians of ethnic origin, got sick and

tired of denied access to natural health supplements by big brother,

drug-favoring, Health Canada. Politicians who wanted to keep their job

created the Office of Natural Health Products.

 

Percentage of GDP spent on health care (including prescription drugs)

U.S. - 14%

Canada - 11%

Most European countries - 9% (or less)

 

As we know, there is no relationship on allopathic health care expenditures

and the health of the population.

 

Rob

[Guest guest]

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" Rob Bartlett " <rob.bartlett

 

Tuesday, November 27, 2001 9:38 AM

Re: CODEX & FDA/ Help Save our Supplements- Urgent! (TXT)

 

 

> <<Once the Uni training of Naturopaths is completed and gov certification is

> happening, Naturopaths will have access to the gov health compensation

> system.>>

>

> That's very promising. I'm sure that the allopaths are looking over their

> shoulder.

 

No not really as most front line medicine is still delivered by small practices

( 2 - 3 doctors) who are very much

overworked and they really would like a medically QUALIFIED Naturopath to take

some of the diet & supplement cases off

their hands.

 

> Percentage of GDP spent on health care (including prescription drugs)

> U.S. - 14%

> Canada - 11%

> Most European countries - 9% (or less)

 

Hi Rob,

 

In Oz, about 30 % of " Health problem " visits are made to Naturopaths and the

volume is increasing as the use and potency

of OTC supplements gains acceptance. The highly effective use of glucosamine

for joint problems has really started the

ball rolling. Many friends have use this supplement and found to their

disbelief, that it actually works. My own small

trails with glucosamine and EPA for arthritis have been very effective with one

friend stopping her NSAIDS. She came to

me after cracking a few ribs and was horrified to learn that most cortisol

steroids (like the one she was using) reduce

bone density.

 

At least in Oz, the ground swell to alternative treatment has started to gain

enough momentum I doubt it will or can be

stopped.

========================

Good Health & Long Life,

Greg Watson, gowatson

USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/

PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe

KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe

[Guest guest]

Is the naturopathic treatment regulated, perhaps by an

agency similar to our FDA?

 

I think the scary part behind the Codex Alimentarius is that

it calls for strict regulation by pharmaceutical agencies.

We could ostensibly still by these products, or even

eventually be referred to physicians who use them in

controlled prescribed amounts. But the amounts they are

condoning are minimums, recommended daily dosages and such.

 

No one has my permission to control how much vitamin C I'll

take, or L-Arginine, or Glutamine, or colloidal mineral

supplements, etc.

 

There is definitely a growing awareness of alternative

medicines and treatments in the states. What concerns us,

me at least, is the potential curtailment of our liberties

in seeking out such information, product and treatment, as

easily as lambs are lead to slaughter.

 

Ken

>>>

>In Oz, about 30 % of " Health problem " visits are made to

Naturopaths and the volume is increasing as the use and

potency

>of OTC supplements gains acceptance. The highly effective

use of glucosamine for joint problems has really started the

>ball rolling. Many friends have use this supplement and

found to their disbelief, that it actually works. My own

small

>trails with glucosamine and EPA for arthritis have been

very effective with one friend stopping her NSAIDS. She

came to

>me after cracking a few ribs and was horrified to learn

that most cortisol steroids (like the one she was using)

reduce

>bone density.

>

>At least in Oz, the ground swell to alternative treatment

has started to gain enough momentum I doubt it will or can

be

>stopped.

>>>

[Guest guest]

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" Kenneth A " <philoska

 

Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:29 AM

Re: CODEX & FDA/ Help Save our Supplements- Urgent! (TXT)

 

 

> Is the naturopathic treatment regulated, perhaps by an

> agency similar to our FDA?

 

Currently in Oz, anyone can call themselves a Naturopath (me included!) although

to be certified by a industry group

requires formal training. The government is working on legislation to define

the level of training required and current

suggestions are for at least an honours (equiv to US Masters?) in complementary

medicine from a medical university.

 

> No one has my permission to control how much vitamin C I'll

> take, or L-Arginine, or Glutamine, or colloidal mineral

> supplements, etc.

 

Hi Kenneth,

 

Lets hope not.

 

========================

Good Health & Long Life,

Greg Watson, gowatson

USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/

PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe

KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe

[Guest guest]

--- Kenneth A <philoska wrote:

> Is the naturopathic treatment regulated, perhaps by

> an

> agency similar to our FDA?

>

> I think the scary part behind the Codex Alimentarius

> is that

> it calls for strict regulation by pharmaceutical

> agencies.

> We could ostensibly still by these products, or even

> eventually be referred to physicians who use them in

> controlled prescribed amounts. But the amounts they

> are

> condoning are minimums, recommended daily dosages

> and such.

>

> No one has my permission to control how much vitamin

> C I'll

> take, or L-Arginine, or Glutamine, or colloidal

> mineral

> supplements, etc.

>

> There is definitely a growing awareness of

> alternative

> medicines and treatments in the states. What

> concerns us,

> me at least, is the potential curtailment of our

> liberties

> in seeking out such information, product and

> treatment, as

> easily as lambs are lead to slaughter.

>

I agree, Ken. Most government regulatory agencies such

as the FDA do more harm than good. I just got done

dealing with the nimcompoops at the seemingly benign

bldg dept. GEEEEZ!!! The bureaucracy that I had to

deal with for a simple patio addition was ridiculous!

 

Pam

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

What's amazing is not that this bullying and totalitarian Codex/FDA is

taking place, but that we're putting up with it.

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" Greg Watson " <gowatson

 

Monday, November 26, 2001 2:32 PM

Re: CODEX & FDA/ Help Save our Supplements- Urgent!

(TXT)

 

 

> -

> " Rob Bartlett " <rob.bartlett

>

> Monday, November 26, 2001 10:27 PM

> Re: CODEX & FDA/ Help Save our Supplements- Urgent!

(TXT)

>

>

> > One would have to pay out-of-pocket to seek " alternative " approaches,

such

> > as naturopathic medicine.

>

> Hi Rob,

>

> Also the case currently in Australia, except if you have private health

insurance. Seems these folks are interested in

> keeping you healthy and actually give discounts for non smoking, going to

the gym and pay for Naturopathy visits

> (assuming the Naturopath is registered with a professional group).

>

> Once the Uni training of Naturopaths is completed and gov certification is

happening, Naturopaths will have access to

> the gov health compensation system. Even now, some medical groups are

adding in Naturopaths, so things are changing

> for the better.

>

> Also the Oz government has a office covering OTC supplements and is

setting standards for production, quality,

> tractability, etc.

> ========================

> Good Health & Long Life,

> Greg Watson, gowatson

> USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/

> PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

> DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe

> KIM (omega analysis)

http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe

>

>

>

>

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