Hunza Diet Bread Just May Be a Scam?

[Guest guest]

Friends, This is as false as it can get. Now the $9 recipe will have to

publish the ingredients if they are different from the free Recipe as

repeated below.

 

Note the long rambling commercial. All claims no facts.

 

 

The Hunza Infomercial has all the elements of a TV commercial.

 

Then if the discovered $9.00 Recipe is similar to the " Free Recipe " it is

as phony as a $3 Bill.

 

To Wit:

buckwheat or millet flour; I have grown both of these as soil

amendments at high altitude: they grow in poor soil and improve it.

 

canola oil; was invented recently who thinks the Hunza's had this?

 

natural unrefined sugar; again this would be raw sugar cane, grows in

the tropics. No Way!

 

16 ounces of honey; Most primitives collect honey; any idea how much they

collect in a year? Does anyone think they waste it in bread?

 

molasses; Dou you suppose the Hunza's have Molasses?

 

powdered soya milk; And this must be sold in the Health food stores in

Hunza Land.

 

baking powder : maybe they import this from India,

 

 

 

 

* 4 cups of water

* 3.5 (three & one half) to 4 pounds of natural buckwheat or millet flour

* 1.5 (one & one half) cups of canola oil

* 1.5 (one & one half) cups of natural unrefined sugar

* 16 ounces of honey

* 16 ounces of molasses

* 4 ounces of powdered soya milk (half cup)

* 1 teaspoon sea salt

* 1 teaspoon cinnamon

* 1 teaspoon ground nutmeg

* 2 teaspoons baking powder (non aluminium)

 

Hunza Diet Bread has a taste that is very satisfying and chewy all on its

own, but you may also add if required, apricots, raisins, chopped walnuts,

almonds, sliced dates to the above ingredients. Mix ingredients. Grease and

lightly flour cooking pan(s). Ideally use baking trays with about 1 inch

high sides. Pour batter in pan(

Best Regards, Lorenzo

[Guest guest]

Hi Loenzo, and all

 

Well, the 'ad' says it was created while attempting to 'duplicate' a

2000 year old bread (from the Hunza's?) ... Hunza Diet Bread was the

name they gave it.

 

I made the bread this morning. Used grapeseed oil, fresh millet flour

and nonfat milk powder. It is a very dense 'batter'(?). It does not

pour into the pan. In fact I had to press it into the pan by hand

taking a while to do. Might have used too much flour - used 2 cups

instead of 1-3/4 for half of recipe. It does taste good and ... that's

all I've eaten today - 2 pieces. It does not resemble bread - Kraig

thought it was like a brownie and ate 4 a couple of hours ago. He

hadn't eaten today and he's outside working again, so he must not be

hungry.

 

The half recipe made around 60-70 2x2 pieces. Maybe I didn't have it

the right thickness (hard to tell when putting in the pan). Next time

I'll use less flour and it won't be so dense. It is chewy and we both

like the taste. Kraig doesn't need to lose weight but it would be nice

for me to have something to stop the nibbles all day.

 

So, it looks, tastes and feels like the 'real' thing to us.

 

Blessings,

 

Shirley

 

 

 

Gettingwell, " Lorenzo " <lorenzo1@w...> wrote:

> Friends, This is as false as it can get. Now the $9 recipe will

have to

> publish the ingredients if they are different from the free Recipe as

> repeated below.

>

> Note the long rambling commercial. All claims no facts.

>

>

> The Hunza Infomercial has all the elements of a TV commercial.

>

> Then if the discovered $9.00 Recipe is similar to the " Free

Recipe " it is

> as phony as a $3 Bill.

>

> To Wit:

> buckwheat or millet flour; I have grown both of these as soil

> amendments at high altitude: they grow in poor soil and improve it.

>

> canola oil; was invented recently who thinks the Hunza's had this?

>

> natural unrefined sugar; again this would be raw sugar cane,

grows in

> the tropics. No Way!

>

> 16 ounces of honey; Most primitives collect honey; any idea how

much they

> collect in a year? Does anyone think they waste it in bread?

>

> molasses; Dou you suppose the Hunza's have Molasses?

>

> powdered soya milk; And this must be sold in the Health food

stores in

> Hunza Land.

>

> baking powder : maybe they import this from India,

>

>

>

>

> * 4 cups of water

> * 3.5 (three & one half) to 4 pounds of natural buckwheat or millet

flour

> * 1.5 (one & one half) cups of canola oil

> * 1.5 (one & one half) cups of natural unrefined sugar

> * 16 ounces of honey

> * 16 ounces of molasses

> * 4 ounces of powdered soya milk (half cup)

> * 1 teaspoon sea salt

> * 1 teaspoon cinnamon

> * 1 teaspoon ground nutmeg

> * 2 teaspoons baking powder (non aluminium)

>

> Hunza Diet Bread has a taste that is very satisfying and chewy all

on its

> own, but you may also add if required, apricots, raisins, chopped

walnuts,

> almonds, sliced dates to the above ingredients. Mix ingredients.

Grease and

> lightly flour cooking pan(s). Ideally use baking trays with about 1 inch

> high sides. Pour batter in pan(

> Best Regards, Lorenzo

[Guest guest]

-

" Lorenzo " <lorenzo1

 

Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:13 AM

Hunza Diet Bread Just May Be a Scam?

 

 

> Friends, This is as false as it can get. Now the $9 recipe will have to

> publish the ingredients if they are different from the free Recipe as

> repeated below.

>

> Note the long rambling commercial. All claims no facts.

>

>

> The Hunza Infomercial has all the elements of a TV commercial.

 

Hi Lorenzo,

 

The whole Hunza thing is a scam. Recent research has shown the Hunza's to be

liars and they actually live shorter lives

than city folks.

 

The only documented long lived population group on the planet are the Okinawan

Elders:

http://okicent.org/index.html

 

========================

Good Health & Long Life,

Greg Watson, gowatson

USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/

PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe

KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe

[Guest guest]

Actually a lot of Americans are starting to live longer.

There are pretty many centenarians in my own city, and we

are hardly the healthiest spot on earth. I would however,

like to learn more about the Okinawans. Thanks.

 

ken

 

 

 

>Hi Lorenzo,

>

>The whole Hunza thing is a scam. Recent research has shown

the Hunza's to be liars and they actually live shorter lives

>than city folks.

>

>The only documented long lived population group on the

planet are the Okinawan Elders:

[Guest guest]

-

" Kenneth A " <philoska

 

Monday, November 26, 2001 12:32 PM

Re: Hunza Diet Bread Just May Be a Scam?

 

 

> Actually a lot of Americans are starting to live longer.

> There are pretty many centenarians in my own city, and we

> are hardly the healthiest spot on earth. I would however,

> like to learn more about the Okinawans. Thanks.

>

Hi Ken,

 

Here is a link to the web site:

http://okicent.org/index.html

 

Also a read of the book " The Okinawan Program " (based on the multinational, 25

year long study of the Okinawan Elders)

is well worth the investment.

========================

Good Health & Long Life,

Greg Watson, gowatson

USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/

PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe

KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe

[Guest guest]

I just finished reading this book. It was very good. I would recommend it to

anyone.

 

Ken W.

Greg Watson [gowatson]

Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:17 PM

Gettingwell

Re: Hunza Diet Bread Just May Be a Scam?

 

 

-

" Kenneth A " <philoska

Monday, November 26, 2001 12:32 PM

Re: Hunza Diet Bread Just May Be a Scam?

 

 

> Actually a lot of Americans are starting to live longer.

> There are pretty many centenarians in my own city, and we

> are hardly the healthiest spot on earth. I would however,

> like to learn more about the Okinawans. Thanks.

>

Hi Ken,

 

Here is a link to the web site:

http://okicent.org/index.html

 

Also a read of the book " The Okinawan Program " (based on the

multinational, 25 year long study of the Okinawan Elders)

is well worth the investment.

========================

Good Health & Long Life,

Greg Watson, gowatson

USDA database (food breakdown) http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/

PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe

KIM (omega analysis)

http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

-

" Ken Woody " <kwoody

 

Monday, November 26, 2001 1:05 PM

RE: Hunza Diet Bread Just May Be a Scam?

 

 

> I just finished reading this book. It was very good. I would recommend it to

> anyone.

>

Hi Ken

 

Two other good reads are:

 

1) The Omega diet

 

2) Beyond the 120 year diet

 

Both very readable but based on a lot of research findings and like the Okinawan

Program, lots of good solid references.

 

PS: The Omega diet of Crete was what the Lyon Heart study used as it's

experimental diet.

[Guest guest]

Dear Shirley,

 

I made the bread yesterday, and I made 1/4 the amount, but

I didn't have the good results you seem to have had.

 

The recipe stated to use, and I quote:

 

" * 3.5 (three & one half) to 4 POUNDS of natural buckwheat or

millet flour. "

 

(Caps, mine.)

 

Do you see that it says POUNDS, not CUPS?

 

Now, today, when you spoke of that " you " made the bread,

you said:

 

" Might have used too much flour - used 2 cups instead of

1-3/4 for half of recipe. "

(You

used CUPS, not POUNDS.)

 

 

I immediately thought something was wrong, when

the recipe stated: " 3.5 (three & one half) to 4 POUNDS

of . . . flour. "

 

I said to Wayne, do they really mean POUNDS? (Because I

know that 1 pound of flour equals 4 cups of flour.) So, in making

1/4 of the recipe (and if the recipe asked for almost 4 pounds

of flour, I used 1 POUND (which equals 4 cups of flour).

 

The bread tasted simply AWFUL! But I was determined to eat

it anyway! So today I ate a 2 " piece, and washed it down with

a cup of low-fat skim milk. Then, three hours later, I suddenly

had an episode of extremely " low blood sugar. "

 

I quickly ate some meat, and a banana, took some magnesium

carbonate, and some potassium gluconate, and came out of it

-- but I still feel simply horrible.

 

So Wayne took the entire batch out to the garbage!

 

I realize this bread is mostly all carbohydrate. I guess the

Hunza Bread recipe isn't for me. . . .

 

(I feel sad to tell this to you & the group, but I felt others

might make the bread the same way, with the POUNDS

of flour, and have the same sad results.)

 

What a catastrophe! I thank God I didn't make the entire recipe

with 4 POUNDS of flour, which would've equaled: 16 cups

of FLOUR! : - (

 

With Warm Regards,

Esther

 

P.S. Can someone please tell me why, when one " posts " to

this group (Gettingwell), the posts never come through

in HTML, as posts do with other groups? One isn't able

to " highlight " anything one posts (no color, no italics, no

underlining or larger point size), why is that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shirley wrote:

 

> Hi Loenzo, and all

>

> Well, the 'ad' says it was created while attempting to 'duplicate' a

> 2000 year old bread (from the Hunza's?) ... Hunza Diet Bread was the

> name they gave it.

>

> I made the bread this morning. Used grapeseed oil, fresh millet flour

> and nonfat milk powder. It is a very dense 'batter'(?). It does not

> pour into the pan. In fact I had to press it into the pan by hand

> taking a while to do. Might have used too much flour - used 2 cups

> instead of 1-3/4 for half of recipe. It does taste good and ... that's

>

> all I've eaten today - 2 pieces. It does not resemble bread - Kraig

> thought it was like a brownie and ate 4 a couple of hours ago. He

> hadn't eaten today and he's outside working again, so he must not be

> hungry.

>

> The half recipe made around 60-70 2x2 pieces. Maybe I didn't have it

> the right thickness (hard to tell when putting in the pan). Next time

> I'll use less flour and it won't be so dense. It is chewy and we both

> like the taste. Kraig doesn't need to lose weight but it would be nice

>

> for me to have something to stop the nibbles all day.

>

> So, it looks, tastes and feels like the 'real' thing to us.

>

> Blessings,

>

> Shirley

>

>

>

> Gettingwell, " Lorenzo " <lorenzo1@w...> wrote:

> > Friends, This is as false as it can get. Now the $9 recipe will

> have to

> > publish the ingredients if they are different from the free Recipe

> as

> > repeated below.

> >

> > Note the long rambling commercial. All claims no facts.

> >

> >

> > The Hunza Infomercial has all the elements of a TV commercial.

> >

> > Then if the discovered $9.00 Recipe is similar to the " Free

> Recipe " it is

> > as phony as a $3 Bill.

> >

> > To Wit:

> > buckwheat or millet flour; I have grown both of these as

> soil

> > amendments at high altitude: they grow in poor soil and improve it.

>

> >

> > canola oil; was invented recently who thinks the Hunza's had

> this?

> >

> > natural unrefined sugar; again this would be raw sugar cane,

> grows in

> > the tropics. No Way!

> >

> > 16 ounces of honey; Most primitives collect honey; any idea how

> much they

> > collect in a year? Does anyone think they waste it in bread?

> >

> > molasses; Dou you suppose the Hunza's have Molasses?

> >

> > powdered soya milk; And this must be sold in the Health food

> stores in

> > Hunza Land.

> >

> > baking powder : maybe they import this from India,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > * 4 cups of water

> > * 3.5 (three & one half) to 4 pounds of natural buckwheat or millet

> flour

> > * 1.5 (one & one half) cups of canola oil

> > * 1.5 (one & one half) cups of natural unrefined sugar

> > * 16 ounces of honey

> > * 16 ounces of molasses

> > * 4 ounces of powdered soya milk (half cup)

> > * 1 teaspoon sea salt

> > * 1 teaspoon cinnamon

> > * 1 teaspoon ground nutmeg

> > * 2 teaspoons baking powder (non aluminium)

> >

> > Hunza Diet Bread has a taste that is very satisfying and chewy all

> on its

> > own, but you may also add if required, apricots, raisins, chopped

> walnuts,

> > almonds, sliced dates to the above ingredients. Mix ingredients.

> Grease and

> > lightly flour cooking pan(s). Ideally use baking trays with about 1

> inch

> > high sides. Pour batter in pan(

> > Best Regards, Lorenzo

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Esther,

 

Well, I made a mistake. I DID use 2 lbs. of flour, and it was hard to

mix. Next time it will be 1-3/4 lbs. I don't understand what happened

if you used pounds. I used my diabetic scale to measure the flour and

2 lbs. (and a little more I think) was used. I think half of 3.5

pounds would have turned out better.

 

We continue to eat it and like it. Kraig thinks maybe it will help him

GAIN weight, as he is rather slim. He's healthy but needs more muscle

and weight. We're working on him too.

 

Anyway, sorry it didn't work for you. Did you get the other recipes

that were posted? One for a " hunza " chapati and the other a Hunza

bread (with millet, grated carrots, vegetable salt and 2 eggs). It

sounds better and takes a lot less ingredients. I will make that next

just to see if it is easier to make.

 

Wonder what recipe it is for $9. Lot of people calling it a rip-off.

We're pleased with the original hard to make recipe.

 

Blessings,

Shirley

 

 

Gettingwell, Esther Poehler Wiechmann <wiechepw@e...> wrote:

> Dear Shirley,

>

> I made the bread yesterday, and I made 1/4 the amount, but

> I didn't have the good results you seem to have had.

>

> The recipe stated to use, and I quote:

>

> " * 3.5 (three & one half) to 4 POUNDS of natural buckwheat or

> millet flour. "

>

> (Caps, mine.)

>

> Do you see that it says POUNDS, not CUPS?

>

> Now, today, when you spoke of that " you " made the bread,

> you said:

>

> " Might have used too much flour - used 2 cups instead of

> 1-3/4 for half of recipe. "

> (You

> used CUPS, not POUNDS.)

>

>

> I immediately thought something was wrong, when

> the recipe stated: " 3.5 (three & one half) to 4 POUNDS

> of . . . flour. "

>

> I said to Wayne, do they really mean POUNDS? (Because I

> know that 1 pound of flour equals 4 cups of flour.) So, in making

> 1/4 of the recipe (and if the recipe asked for almost 4 pounds

> of flour, I used 1 POUND (which equals 4 cups of flour).

>

> The bread tasted simply AWFUL! But I was determined to eat

> it anyway! So today I ate a 2 " piece, and washed it down with

> a cup of low-fat skim milk. Then, three hours later, I suddenly

> had an episode of extremely " low blood sugar. "

>

> I quickly ate some meat, and a banana, took some magnesium

> carbonate, and some potassium gluconate, and came out of it

> -- but I still feel simply horrible.

>

> So Wayne took the entire batch out to the garbage!

>

> I realize this bread is mostly all carbohydrate. I guess the

> Hunza Bread recipe isn't for me. . . .

>

> (I feel sad to tell this to you & the group, but I felt others

> might make the bread the same way, with the POUNDS

> of flour, and have the same sad results.)

>

> What a catastrophe! I thank God I didn't make the entire recipe

> with 4 POUNDS of flour, which would've equaled: 16 cups

> of FLOUR! : - (

>

> With Warm Regards,

> Esther

>

> P.S. Can someone please tell me why, when one " posts " to

> this group (Gettingwell), the posts never come through

> in HTML, as posts do with other groups? One isn't able

> to " highlight " anything one posts (no color, no italics, no

> underlining or larger point size), why is that?

>

>

Shirley wrote:

>

> > Hi Loenzo, and all

> >

> > Well, the 'ad' says it was created while attempting to 'duplicate' a

> > 2000 year old bread (from the Hunza's?) ... Hunza Diet Bread was the

> > name they gave it.

> >

> > I made the bread this morning. Used grapeseed oil, fresh millet flour

> > and nonfat milk powder. It is a very dense 'batter'(?). It does not

> > pour into the pan. In fact I had to press it into the pan by hand

> > taking a while to do. Might have used too much flour - used 2 cups

> > instead of 1-3/4 for half of recipe. It does taste good and ... that's

> >

> > all I've eaten today - 2 pieces. It does not resemble bread - Kraig

> > thought it was like a brownie and ate 4 a couple of hours ago. He

> > hadn't eaten today and he's outside working again, so he must not be

> > hungry.

> >

> > The half recipe made around 60-70 2x2 pieces. Maybe I didn't have it

> > the right thickness (hard to tell when putting in the pan). Next time

> > I'll use less flour and it won't be so dense. It is chewy and we both

> > like the taste. Kraig doesn't need to lose weight but it would be nice

> >

> > for me to have something to stop the nibbles all day.

> >

> > So, it looks, tastes and feels like the 'real' thing to us.

> >

> > Blessings,

> >

> > Shirley

> >

> >

> >

> > Gettingwell, " Lorenzo " <lorenzo1@w...> wrote:

> > > Friends, This is as false as it can get. Now the $9 recipe will

> > have to

> > > publish the ingredients if they are different from the free Recipe

> > as

> > > repeated below.

> > >

> > > Note the long rambling commercial. All claims no facts.

> > >

> > >

> > > The Hunza Infomercial has all the elements of a TV commercial.

> > >

> > > Then if the discovered $9.00 Recipe is similar to the " Free

> > Recipe " it is

> > > as phony as a $3 Bill.

> > >

> > > To Wit:

> > > buckwheat or millet flour; I have grown both of these as

> > soil

> > > amendments at high altitude: they grow in poor soil and improve it.

> >

> > >

> > > canola oil; was invented recently who thinks the Hunza's had

> > this?

> > >

> > > natural unrefined sugar; again this would be raw sugar cane,

> > grows in

> > > the tropics. No Way!

> > >

> > > 16 ounces of honey; Most primitives collect honey; any idea how

> > much they

> > > collect in a year? Does anyone think they waste it in bread?

> > >

> > > molasses; Dou you suppose the Hunza's have Molasses?

> > >

> > > powdered soya milk; And this must be sold in the Health food

> > stores in

> > > Hunza Land.

> > >

> > > baking powder : maybe they import this from India,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > * 4 cups of water

> > > * 3.5 (three & one half) to 4 pounds of natural buckwheat or millet

> > flour

> > > * 1.5 (one & one half) cups of canola oil

> > > * 1.5 (one & one half) cups of natural unrefined sugar

> > > * 16 ounces of honey

> > > * 16 ounces of molasses

> > > * 4 ounces of powdered soya milk (half cup)

> > > * 1 teaspoon sea salt

> > > * 1 teaspoon cinnamon

> > > * 1 teaspoon ground nutmeg

> > > * 2 teaspoons baking powder (non aluminium)

> > >

> > > Hunza Diet Bread has a taste that is very satisfying and chewy all

> > on its

> > > own, but you may also add if required, apricots, raisins, chopped

> > walnuts,

> > > almonds, sliced dates to the above ingredients. Mix ingredients.

> > Grease and

> > > lightly flour cooking pan(s). Ideally use baking trays with about 1

> > inch

> > > high sides. Pour batter in pan(

> > > Best Regards, Lorenzo

> >

> >

> >

> >