Eat to live, not live to eat.

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

This summary of the recommendations for healthy eating by the American Heath

Association should cast serious doubt about

food conspiracy theories as I don't think the very powerful US meat and dairy

producers would like the " cut down meat

and dairy, eat more veggies " message given here.

 

Note the bad rap frying gets. Well deserved!

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=1\

1032452 & dopt=Abstract

Nutrition 2000 Sep;16(9):767-73 Related Articles, Books, LinkOut

Eat to live, not live to eat.

Weisburger JH.

American Health Foundation, Valhalla, New York 10595, USA.

John_Weisburger

 

Most of the prevailing chronic diseases in the world have an important

nutritional component by directly causing a

specific disease, enhancing the risk through phenomena of promotion, exerting a

beneficial effect in decreasing risk, or

preventing the disease.

 

International studies in geographic pathology have shown that a given disease

may have vastly different incidence and

mortality as a function of residence.

 

Laboratory research in animal models can reproduce fairly accurately what is

learned through international research and

provide the basis for examining relevant hypotheses and, more importantly,

proposed mechanisms of action.

 

Validation of these approaches can be the basis for public-health

recommendations and health-promotion activities.

 

Through such techniques, it has been found that regular intake of foods with

saturated fats such as meat and certain

dairy products raise the risk of coronary heart disease.

 

The total mixed-fat intake is associated with a higher incidence of the

nutritionally linked cancers, specifically

cancer of the postmenopausal breast, distal colon, prostate, pancreas. ovary,

and endometrium.

 

The associated genotoxic carcinogens for several of these cancers are

heterocyclic amines, which also play a role in

heart-disease causation, and these are produced during the broiling and frying

of creatinine-containing foods such as

meats.

 

Monounsaturated oils such as olive or canola oil are low-risk fats as shown in

animal models and through the observation

that the incidence of specific diseases is lower in the Mediterranean region,

where such oils are customarily used.

 

High salt intake is associated with high blood pressure and with stomach cancer,

especially with inadequate intake of

potassium from fruits and vegetables and of calcium from certain vegetables and

low-fat dairy products.

 

Vegetables, fruits, and soy products are rich in antioxidants that are essential

to lower disease risk stemming from

reactive oxygen systems in the body.

 

Green and black teas are excellent sources of antioxidants of a polyphenol

nature. as is cocoa and some chocolates.

 

Nutritional lifestyles that offer the possibility of a healthy long life can be

adopted by most populations in the

world.

 

PMID: 11032452 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

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[Guest guest]

I did not realize that canola oil was customarily used in

the Mediterranean region. Also, this summarily dismisses

all saturated fats, which make up a high part of the diet of

that region, in regard to meats, sausages, cheeses, fish and

oyster dishes. It just doesn't ring of common sense.

 

ken

 

 

>Through such techniques, it has been found that regular

intake of foods with saturated fats such as meat and certain

>dairy products raise the risk of coronary heart disease.

>

>The total mixed-fat intake is associated with a higher

incidence of the nutritionally linked cancers, specifically

>cancer of the postmenopausal breast, distal colon,

prostate, pancreas. ovary, and endometrium.

>>>>Monounsaturated oils such as olive or canola oil are

low-risk fats as shown in animal models and through the

observation

>that the incidence of specific diseases is lower in the

Mediterranean region, where such oils are customarily used.

>

>High salt intake is associated with high blood pressure and

with stomach cancer, especially with inadequate intake of

>potassium from fruits and vegetables and of calcium from

certain vegetables and low-fat dairy products.

[Guest guest]

Let us say there are differnces of opinion. Which are exacerbated

by special interests with money. Saturated fats & meats have a bad

reputation. Is that bad reputation based in fact? From what I have read,

the answer is no. Does not mean that there is a conspiracy, per se. But

there might be. Or many smal conspiracies. Hard to tell for sure. But

there is evidence to suggest that companies backing veggie oils, margarine,

etc, are willing to support certain researchers findings thru financial

remuneration. Likewise with genetically altered crops. There is a war of

ideas going on. Big money is riding on the outcome. So is long-term human

health.

 

This list is a good one for getting out all sorts of info I might

not find elsewhere. Also opinions. All of which must be sorted thru & read

& digested. Then comes integration. That is always the hard part. Then

putting it all into practice. We all do the process differently & we come

up with many different answers. Give it another 20 years. Some of will

be dead & others will be more healthy than today. Our personal successes &

failures give more data for future generations to sort thru. There are

(IMO) no answers. There are only indications which may prove useful. This

list helps me so I devote many more hours to reading it than I originally

thought reasonable.

 

Alobar

 

 

 

 

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" Greg Watson " <gowatson

" Health CrSocietySupportGroup " <CRsocietysupportgroup >

Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:40 PM

Eat to live, not live to eat.

 

 

> Hi All,

>

> This summary of the recommendations for healthy eating by the American

Heath Association should cast serious doubt about

> food conspiracy theories as I don't think the very powerful US meat and

dairy producers would like the " cut down meat

> and dairy, eat more veggies " message given here.

>

> Note the bad rap frying gets. Well deserved!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

The American Health Foundation is not of the U.S. Gov't. as might be

implied.

These are excerpts from the Foundations web site:

 

The Foundation is a National Cancer Institute-designated Cancer Center.

The Foundation has received a Cancer Center Support Grant (CCSG) since

1974 and is the only Center engaged specifically in multidisciplinary

research on cancer prevention, the definitive means of cancer control.

 

 

While society presently allocates most of its resources to the treatment

and care of illness rather than its prevention,

 

***While there is some good advice it sounds to me like they are trying

to put the blame on the consumer for cancer while they have supported

themselves in fine style with Grant money since 1974.

Does anyone really think all of these cancer foundations really want to

find a cure? They are making billions of bucks researching and treating

cancer with bogus treatments.

 

You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people

all of the time.........that's usually enough.

ron

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> Greg Watson

> 11/23/2001 10:10:50 AM

> CRsocietysupportgroup

> Eat to live, not live to eat.

>

> Hi All,

>

> This summary of the recommendations for healthy eating by the American

Heath Association should

> cast serious doubt about

> food conspiracy theories as I don't think the very powerful US meat

and dairy producers would like

> the " cut down meat

> and dairy, eat more veggies " message given here.

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

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" Kenneth A " <philoska

 

Friday, November 23, 2001 10:36 AM

Re: Eat to live, not live to eat.

 

 

> I did not realize that canola oil was customarily used in

> the Mediterranean region. Also, this summarily dismisses

> all saturated fats, which make up a high part of the diet of

> that region, in regard to meats, sausages, cheeses, fish and

> oyster dishes. It just doesn't ring of common sense.

>

Hi Ken,

 

There is the well known saturated fat and cholesterol connection.

 

What the Lyon study found was that there is also another independent factor and

that is the amount of Omega 3 EPA & DHA

in the heart cell membranes is very cardio protective.

 

So sure saturated fat is bad, and likewise too little Omega 3 EPA and DHA are

also bad. So to get good cardio

protection we need to address BOTH.

 

Following the Lyon study and a LOT of followup studies and research, the

American Heart Association altered their

dietary recommendations to include at least 2 serves a week of EPA & DHA rich

fatty fish:

http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/31/11/2751

AHA Dietary Guidelines

Revision 2000: A Statement for Healthcare Professionals From the Nutrition

Committee of the American Heart Association

 

" The major guidelines are designed for the general population and collectively

replace the " Step 1 " designation used for

earlier AHA population-wide dietary recommendations. More individualized

approaches involving medical nutrition therapy

for specific subgroups (for example, those with lipid disorders, diabetes, and

preexisting cardiovascular disease)

replace the previous " Step 2 " diet for higher-risk individuals.

 

The major emphasis for weight management should be on avoidance of excess total

energy intake and a regular pattern of

physical activity. Fat intake of 30% of total energy is recommended to assist in

limiting consumption of total energy as

well as saturated fat. The guidelines continue to advocate a population-wide

limitation of dietary saturated fat to <10%

of energy and cholesterol to <300 mg/d. Specific intakes for individuals should

be based on cholesterol and lipoprotein

levels and the presence of existing heart disease, diabetes, and other risk

factors.

 

Because of increased evidence for the cardiovascular benefits of fish

(particularly fatty fish), consumption of at least

2 fish servings per week is now recommended.

 

Finally, recent studies support a major benefit on blood pressure of consuming

vegetables, fruits, and low-fat dairy

products, as well as limiting salt intake (<6 grams per day) and alcohol (no

more than 2 drinks per day for men and 1

for women) and maintaining a healthy body weight. "

 

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Good Health & Long Life,

Greg Watson, gowatson

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PubMed (research papers) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi

DWIDP (nutrient analysis) http://www.walford.com/dwdemo/dw2b63demo.exe

KIM (omega analysis) http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe