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I'm probably pretty new at this stuff compared to the majority of you, but I

think one would need considerably more information.

 

1) the sleep is deep, but (depending on definition of " vivid " ) not restful

2) what constitutes a " pretty good " diet?

3) Is her bedroom newly carpeted, painted, furnished, etc..

4) (for those who think that there is some form of pertinence to this) is she

eating an " offending " food for her blood type?

5) allergies, and fitful sleep (along with stress, excessive caffeine, etc.)

taxes the adrenals; is that applicable?

6) is this an every night/morning event?

....and so on!

Anything that was done new, and/or consistently before, or at the time this

started could be pertinent!

Case taking can be a painstaking (set of) event(s)!

 

In health,

Steve

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Hi everyone Jamie here...

 

I go to school with a lady in her early thirties who is a little overweight

and has seasonal allergies. Other than that she is in good health.

 

Every morning when she wakes up she feels horrible , tired and strung out even

after a full 8 hours sleep. She also dreams every night pretty vivid d reams.

 

She usually has a headache in the mornings as well.

 

By afternoon - evening she feels much better and the headache goes away and

she has normal energy at these times.

 

Any ideas??

 

Oh yes and her diet is pretty healthy with no artificial sweetners, no soda s,

etc.

 

She eats some meat but mostly organic foods.

 

Hope your all doing well... I am cramming extra classes in for summer so I have

been very busy but I do think of you all daily!

 

God Bless,

Jamie

 

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she should check urin acid in the blood.beside tht she need some support for the spleen.

regard

mj

 

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SpareRibAz

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Monday, June 18, 2001 3:39 AM

[herbal remedies] Advice Needed Please

 

 

Hi everyone Jamie here...

 

I go to school with a lady in her early thirties who is a little overweight and has seasonal allergies. Other than that she is in good health.

 

Every morning when she wakes up she feels horrible , tired and strung out even after a full 8 hours sleep. She also dreams every night pretty vivid dreams.

 

She usually has a headache in the mornings as well.

 

By afternoon - evening she feels much better and the headache goes away and she has normal energy at these times.

 

Any ideas??

 

 

Oh yes and her diet is pretty healthy with no artificial sweetners, no sodas, etc.

 

She eats some meat but mostly organic foods.

 

Hope your all doing well... I am cramming extra classes in for summer so I have been very busy but I do think of you all daily!

 

God Bless,

JamieFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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this may sound a little strange, but my roommate worked in the supplements dept

of a natural food store,and a woman she knows comes in one day, and in a round

about way they end up talking about why my roommate's been really dizzy

sometimes when she wakes up in the morning. the woman, who makes her own

homeopathic remedies, said it may have to do with the negative energy in her

room, and the placement of her bed. Now, i guess it could be other things, but i

wouldn't rule that one out at all.I used to wake up sometimes with a wicked

headache, and feel so nauseous that i'd throw up (it wasn't morning

sickness......i was single at some times!!) then i'd go bac k to bed and wake up

later feeling ok with just a remnant of a headache. i wondered if it was the way

i was sleeping/not getting enough oxygen to my brain.

anyways.....don't know if that helped much, just my two cents!

love,

angela

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herbal remedies, " SpareRibAz " <spareribaz@M...> wrote:

> Hi everyone Jamie here...

>

> I go to school with a lady in her early thirties who is a little

overweight and has seasonal allergies. Other than that she is in

good health.

>

> Every morning when she wakes up she feels horrible , tired and

strung out even after a full 8 hours sleep. She also dreams every

night pretty vivid dreams.

>

> She usually has a headache in the mornings as well.

 

*** I don't know what my two cents are worth, but has she been

checked for sleep apnea? This could disrupt her sleep cycle making

her feel very yucky in the mornings? Also are her 'vivid' dreams

nightmares?? Often people who have frequent nightmares tend to wake

often at night, sometimes they may not remember... If she has someone

sleeping in the room with her, maybe that person could try to be

aware of how she sleeps.

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Angela,

 

I've talked to a man who goes into homes and measures the electric currents from wires, alarm clocks, microwaves and other things. He recommends that no one sleep by an alarm clock, telephone, radio, anything electronic. Keep it as far as you can away from your bed like on a dresser instead of a night stand.

 

Once a man was very ill and asked him to come to his house and bring his device. He told me he always gets out of his car, turns on his meter and walks to the front door. As he was walking suddenly his meter hit the opposite pole and bounced back a bit. He thought there was something wrong with his meter so he stepped back, walked forward and same thing. It turned out that there was a heavy duty electric cable running under the man's home.

 

This same friend told me of finding a wall in a home that caused a huge reaction on his meter. They never found the cause of the reading as they did not tear down the wall but he suggested that the head of the bed be moved to a different wall. The woman of the house put here hands over her mouth, looked at him and said "My grandmother died in this bed and my daughter was sick all of her life until she got married and moved away. Now she's fine."

 

So here's another angle on energy. I think these meters are called something like Gauze meters. Maybe Ian will see this and correct me if I'm wrong on this name.

 

L, Valorie

 

 

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Monday, June 18, 2001 7:46 AM

Re:[herbal remedies] Advice Needed Please

this may sound a little strange, but my roommate worked in the supplements dept of a natural food store,and a woman she knows comes in one day, and in a round about way they end up talking about why my roommate's been really dizzy sometimes when she wakes up in the morning. the woman, who makes her own homeopathic remedies, said it may have to do with the negative energy in her room, and the placement of her bed. Now, i guess it could be other things, but i wouldn't rule that one out at all.I used to wake up sometimes with a wicked headache, and feel so nauseous that i'd throw up (it wasn't morning sickness......i was single at some times!!) then i'd go bac k to bed and wake up later feeling ok with just a remnant of a headache. i wondered if it was the way i was sleeping/not getting enough oxygen to my brain.anyways.....don't know if that helped much, just my two cents!love,angelaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Valorie,

Thanks for the info, i sleep next to a phone and an alarm clock and two

electrical outlets. there are some elec. wires running near my window too.

When i lived at home i slept near a few electrical appliances too, and i was at

the corner of the house that the wires attatched to. wonder if that has anything

to do with the headaches, etc?

We're actually looking at a house soon.

thanks again!

-angela

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Valorie Shillington

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Thursday, June 21, 2001 1:29 AM

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Angela,

 

So here's another angle on energy. I think these meters are called something

like Gauze meters. Maybe Ian will see

this and correct me if I'm wrong on this name.

 

Hi Valorie,

 

It's called a Gauss meter.

 

Don't worry about clocks, etc. The main source is your fuse / meter box. If

your bedhead is by your meter box, move

your bed as the fields can effect sleep and Melatonin release.

 

Normally your power lines are balanced (two wires) and the opposite moving

currents sort of balance each other out.

Problems only occur where the two wires are separated, such in a meter box or

some electric blankets. Most appliances

may have some unpaired wires but not enough to worry about.

 

I'm a retired electronics engineer,

Greg

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Angela,

 

Why not move the bed if there is a wall with less outlets and put the phone, alarm etc somewhere else for a while and see how you feel.

 

I know that years ago a friend told us to ground our bed by attaching a wire to the springs and then putting it through a window and into the ground outside. At first we thought this was ridiculous - what next?? Then we moved to Georgia temporarily and put most of our things in storage along with our metal spring bed. We bought a futon and noticed how calm we felt sleeping on it. When we took our expensive bed out of storage and slept on it once again, I noticed a difference like a wired feeling. I mentioned this to Ian and we both were feeling jittery sleeping on it. We had a foam mattress for awhile which was fine and now sleep regularly on an Aero bed - air bed and love it.

 

Valorie

 

 

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Wednesday, June 20, 2001 4:07 PM

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Valorie,Thanks for the info, i sleep next to a phone and an alarm clock and two electrical outlets. there are some elec. wires running near my window too. When i lived at home i slept near a few electrical appliances too, and i was at the corner of the house that the wires attatched to. wonder if that has anything to do with the headaches, etc?We're actually looking at a house soon.thanks again!-angelaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Greg,

 

Thanks for the added data. I guess my friend determines the levels by testing things and tells that way. I do recall him recommending that one keep anything electrical away from them when sleeping but like you say maybe this is only a precaution in the case of separated or unpaired wires. I think these Gauss meters only cost around $50. Is this correct? I guess one could get one and test their enviroment. Our friend has one and we all share it.

 

Valorie

 

 

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Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:19 PM

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-Valorie Shillingtonherbal remedies Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 1:29 AMRe: Re:[herbal remedies] Advice Needed PleaseAngela,So here's another angle on energy. I think these meters are called something like Gauze meters. Maybe Ian will seethis and correct me if I'm wrong on this name.Hi Valorie,It's called a Gauss meter.Don't worry about clocks, etc. The main source is your fuse / meter box. If your bedhead is by your meter box, moveyour bed as the fields can effect sleep and Melatonin release.Normally your power lines are balanced (two wires) and the opposite moving currents sort of balance each other out.Problems only occur where the two wires are separated, such in a meter box or some electric blankets. Most appliancesmay have some unpaired wires but not enough to worry about.I'm a retired electronics engineer,GregFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Hi Jamie,

To fine tune this I'd need to ask a couple of dozen questions of your friend, but off the cuff, I'd say she needs to be on the Total Nutrition, UDO's Oil, and the raw eggs. 100 Mg of Vit. B1 will definitely get rid of the dreams and the make her nights more peaceful. She's eating something which is throwing her system out of whack but I hope the above helps.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

 

 

 

Hi everyone Jamie here...

 

I go to school with a lady in her early thirties who is a little overweight and has seasonal allergies. Other than that she is in good health.

 

Every morning when she wakes up she feels horrible , tired and strung out even after a full 8 hours sleep. She also dreams every night pretty vivid dreams.

 

She usually has a headache in the mornings as well.

 

By afternoon - evening she feels much better and the headache goes away and she has normal energy at these times.

 

Any ideas??

 

 

Oh yes and her diet is pretty healthy with no artificial sweetners, no sodas, etc.

 

She eats some meat but mostly organic foods.

 

Hope your all doing well... I am cramming extra classes in for summer so I have been very busy but I do think of you all daily!

 

God Bless,

Jamie

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Some good questions there Steve. You're on a good track here.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington

I'm probably pretty new at this stuff compared to the majority of you, but I think one would need considerably more information. 1) the sleep is deep, but (depending on definition of "vivid") not restful2) what constitutes a "pretty good" diet?3) Is her bedroom newly carpeted, painted, furnished, etc..4) (for those who think that there is some form of pertinence to this) is she eating an "offending" food for her blood type?5) allergies, and fitful sleep (along with stress, excessive caffeine, etc.) taxes the adrenals; is that applicable?6) is this an every night/morning event?...and so on!Anything that was done new, and/or consistently before, or at the time this started could be pertinent!Case taking can be a painstaking (set of) event(s)!In health,Steve

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" Fenris Wolf " @<Fenriswrote:

 

*** Hi Fenris,

 

 

>B had a stroke and lost the use of her legs.>

 

*** Cayenne pepper. Start slowly 1/4 tsp. in a warm glass of water. Drink

like a cup of tea. Work up to 1tsp. or even more twice daily.

 

Since then, she has

> regained some use, but lost weight and now has ulcers on the legs.

 

*** OOO (ozonated olive oil) apply to ulcers 3 x daily. I've heard that OOO

and cayenne pepper have even saved some from amputation.

 

> G is very overweight, and in the midst of all this was hit by high blood

> pressure. Docs put him on tablets which disagreed with him, buzzing in

> head, eyes felt as if popping out, dizziness.

 

*** Sorry, don't know much about high blood pressure except that it's called

the silent killer. I don't think it would hurt for him to try the cayenne

pepper also as it increases circulation.

 

> They are vegetarian, although not sure how strict. They are too ill to

> follow a complicated diet or treatment regime. G will munch all day,

> but B has little appetite.

>

> Anyone got any suggestions?

>

> *** The above suggestions aren't hard at all. One just has to get use to

the hot taste of the cayenne pepper. When one is that seriously ill, what

do they have to lose? I've heard the OOO referred to as a " miracle cream " .

I know it's helped my husband's diabetic ulcers. I've also heard equal

praises about the cayenne pepper. So simple. Somethimes people think

something has to be complicated to be effective. I surely hope your friends

don't make this mistake!

 

Gail

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Dear Fenris,

 

You didn't mention what vitamin supplements they are using, but I

suspect whatever they are taking it is inadequit.

 

If one were taking sufficient vitamin C and E it is quite unlikely

that she would have ulcers on her legs.

 

I think your suggestion was exactly right on about the vitmins of C

and E both in large doses.

 

Most people don't take enough C or E when they need it and then they

dont realize what tremendous healing power they can have. You probably

are aware that the body can use huge quantities of C when there is

sickness or damage present. Linus Pauling recommends that you take C

untill diahrea results and then take slightly less untill no loose

bowels. That way the body gets all it can use. The doses sometimes

need to be spaced out over the day instead of taking one huge dose.

 

Also vitamin E and C directly applied on the sore is the best

substance that I have ever seen to promote healing.

 

I think that All vitamins and minerals are especially important at a

time of illness. Also since they are vegitarian, it might be a good

idea to supplement the diet with some free form amino acid protien to

insure the extra needed is there to heal properly.

 

In the past Vitamin C has been used successfully to, heal severe

diseases polio etc.

 

good luck,

Frank

 

 

 

 

Gettingwell, Fenris Wolf <Fenris@r...> wrote:

> I have two friends who live some distance away, and who I see once

every

> two or three years. Last night I got a phone call from G. Both of

them

> have been ill, and it is looking quite serious. I need diet and

> treatment suggestions for them. Briefly the situation is:

>

> B had a stroke and lost the use of her legs. Since then, she has

> regained some use, but lost weight and now has ulcers on the legs.

Bad

> ones that have been there for over a year. She has used honey on

them,

> although it caused great pain. Cannot put her legs up, because she

has

> a bad hip and ends up in worse pain. Has spent the last few nights

> sitting downstairs because she cannot stand the pain caused by lying

> down. G rang me because a nurse has been talking about amputation.

I

> suggested large doses of Vitamin E and C. B cannot try to walk much

> because of the pain from the ulcers. One is on the toe and she

cannot

> put pressure on it. There is disagreement as to whether she has

> arterial or venous BP probs in the legs. Nurse put on BP test and

said

> arterial. Doc looked at toes peeping out of bandages and said

doesn't

> look arterial at all????

>

> G is very overweight, and in the midst of all this was hit by high

blood

> pressure. Docs put him on tablets which disagreed with him, buzzing

in

> head, eyes felt as if popping out, dizziness. Each batch of tablets

> seem to have some side effects. I hesitate to suggest flaxseed oil

/

> cottage cheese because of the weight problem, but something is

needed

> because he is getting more and more bad tempered.

>

> They are vegetarian, although not sure how strict. They are too ill

to

> follow a complicated diet or treatment regime. G will munch all

day,

> but B has little appetite.

>

> Anyone got any suggestions?

>

>

>

>

> --

> Fenris Wolf

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Fenris Wolf wrote:

 

> G is very overweight, and in the midst of all this was hit by high blood

> pressure. Docs put him on tablets which disagreed with him, buzzing in

> head, eyes felt as if popping out, dizziness. Each batch of tablets

> seem to have some side effects.

 

Blood pressure medication = BAD BAD BAD!! (I know I didn't have to tell

*you* that, hehe...)

 

> I hesitate to suggest flaxseed oil /

> cottage cheese because of the weight problem, but something is needed

> because he is getting more and more bad tempered.

 

Naahh, the cottage cheese and flaxseed oil will probably help him lose

weight! I've read a couple of things somewhere where people actually lost

weight and the only thing they did differently each day was start drinking 4

oz of canola oil. Gross, huh? :P

 

--

Mindy

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Donna @ <dfnewman Wrote:

 

> Gail Where do you get this 000 ?>

 

Hi Donna,

 

Ozone Services.

Website URL: http://www.ozoneservices.com

Phone #: (250) 265-4461

 

The price is $10 for a 2oz. jar. $5 per jar if you buy 12 at a time. S & H

is $4.

$18.75 for a 4 oz. jar. Less if you buy in bulk but can't remember how

much. I'm assuming it'd be somewhere around $10 for each 4oz. jar.

 

One thing to be aware of with OOO is it must be kept cold. For that reason

they only ship it seasonal. Now is the time to buy as they don't ship in

summer months. They ship it frozen and it must be put in the fridge as soon

as it arrives.

 

Gail

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