My intro

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna and welcome ... maybe I'm thick ... but what is a WAHM and a DH?

 

Suzanna

Perth, WA

 

 

Donna Biroczky [donnabzy]

Tuesday, 4 January 2000 12:14 PM

 

[AX] My Intro

 

 

Hi, Everyone

 

I'm so glad to have found this list!

 

My name's Donna, I'm a WAHM of 3 kids, and after some health problems in the

last year, both personally and with my children, I've been searching for

some ways to improve health and help reduce stress levels. So far,

aromatherapy is a big help! My DH helps 'feed' my habit by buying me more

candles, oils, etc., and my kids love seeing what I'll do next. I look

forward to learning more uses for essential oils.

I've just bought an excellent book on aromatherapy, so hopefully I'll be

able to contribute as well as read and learn!

 

Donna

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

hi donna welcome to the list.. you said you got a good book on

aromatherapy,, whats the name of it.. thanks..

????

karen..

[Guest guest]

Hi!

 

DH= dear husband

WAHM=work-at-home Mom

 

I am always in a hurry online, it seems and I forget to not use abbreviations!

 

Donna

 

Suzanna Sherlock wrote:

 

> " Suzanna Sherlock " <sherpro

>

> Hi Donna and welcome ... maybe I'm thick ... but what is a WAHM and a DH?

>

> Suzanna

> Perth, WA

>

>

> Donna Biroczky [donnabzy]

> Tuesday, 4 January 2000 12:14 PM

>

> [AX] My Intro

>

> Hi, Everyone

>

> I'm so glad to have found this list!

>

> My name's Donna, I'm a WAHM of 3 kids, and after some health problems in the

> last year, both personally and with my children, I've been searching for

> some ways to improve health and help reduce stress levels. So far,

> aromatherapy is a big help! My DH helps 'feed' my habit by buying me more

> candles, oils, etc., and my kids love seeing what I'll do next. I look

> forward to learning more uses for essential oils.

> I've just bought an excellent book on aromatherapy, so hopefully I'll be

> able to contribute as well as read and learn!

>

> Donna

>

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> The intention of this list is to provide up-to-date information concerning

> the safe use of Aromatherapy, and is not intended to replace the advice or

> attention of the proper health care professionals.

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of the proper health care professionals.

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> List owner: -owner

[Guest guest]

I don't know how I got an invite to join this group, but thanks for

inviting me!

I'm here primarily because my mom has Renal cancer. I want to know

more about complimentary medicine to help her in her treatment. But

I'm also Diabetic, have been since childhood (diagnosed in 1977).

I'm very interested in things people are doing that I don't need a

prescription for. I teach pre-natal ed. and do a lot of stuff with

relaxation techniques and imagery.

Have a wonderful day!

~Cara

[Guest guest]

Toni:

 

Oh, my, a doula with eight children! You are truly experienced and

your intuition about your gifts and path are probably right on!

 

You seem to be ready, right now, to be doing what you want to do. Your

" block " is simply related to sitting on your hands. Get out there and

contact some birthing centers as well as midwives; many hospitals are

becoming more holistic in their approach and it's possible that one of

them near you would welcome you, either as a staff member or

consultant. You might also consider doing classes with expectant

mothers through a hospital or birthing center.

 

Get yourself a card and a concise flyer or brochure made with

information about you and the services you can offer. Bring them to

the places I've previously mentioned as well as to OB/GYN offices.

Offer your services as a consultant and doula. You'll probably go over

well if you're attired in dress casual in soft colors and project that

maternal energy you must have oodles of.

 

I don't know if you have used her book before, but Cherie Sohnen Moe's

" Business Mastery " is a great reference for bodyworkers and is used in

many schools as a text for Marketing. She's a member of Body_Work and

has also written other books, including one on professional ethics

(I'm fond of that one, I got a nod in the acknowledgments LOL).

 

Using the term " Master " is traditional for Reiki as a Japanese

technique. I think we as Westerners have a different impression of

what the word means, though I will admit as one myself I don't think

any of us ever master Reiki, we just hold on for dear life ;-)

 

Blessings,

Crow

 

, reikiIII wrote:

>

> Hi Caroline & everyone,

>

> My name is Toni. I saw your post on Body_Work about this list and

thought I'd see about this list, since I work with energy. I am a

reiki master (I don't really like that term, " master " ... I think it is

a bit pretentious, especially pertaining to me!) and have been attuned

since 2000. I have taken several years to learn more and just use the

energy for myself, my family, friends and the occasional client. I

have offered professional treatments here and there over the years,

but now I am getting serious about offering my services to the public.

>

> I am interested in how best to start my practice (on a shoestring!)

and attract clients. I am also a trained doula, childbirth educator

and student of midwifery. My passion for childbirth is leading me to

want to specialize in reiki during pregnancy, birth and postpartum. I

have already sent introductory letters out to the homebirth midwives

in my area, and so far one has called to talk to me about it.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your kind reply, Crow! I already mailed out information to the

homebirth midwives in my area. So far, one has actually called me to find out

more. She runs an out of hospital birth center, so she may turn out to be an

excellent contact. The hospitals and OBs in my area are very closed-minded about

most alternative and complementary therapies, unfortunately. They didn't used to

be this way... it has gradually happened over the past fifteen years as the OBs

have systematically lowered the number of certified nurse-midwives who can

practice here. They like to pretend the homebirth midwives don't even exist, and

when they must cross paths, the majority of them threaten the parents with CPS

for " endangering their babies " by birthing at home.

 

I joined our local birth network (full of childbirth educators, doulas and

others who work in the birth field)... and aside from a friend of mine who

trains doulas, the rest have not even offered a reply or a welcome in my

direction. I can see that I have some obstacles to overcome, but I am determined

to do just that. I am doing a booth at our local Saturday Market offering sample

sessions of reiki. I'm still getting our materials together about pregnancy and

birth.

 

I will look into that book you recommend. I was reading about another on Amazon

as well... are you or anyone else familiar with a book called " Selling the

Invisible " ? It had a lot of good reviews and is about selling services.

 

--

Blessings,

Toni

http://organic-birth.com

 

 

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" Caroline Abreu " <mizz.crow

> Toni:

>

> Oh, my, a doula with eight children! You are truly experienced and

> your intuition about your gifts and path are probably right on!

>

> You seem to be ready, right now, to be doing what you want to do. Your

> " block " is simply related to sitting on your hands. Get out there and

> contact some birthing centers as well as midwives; many hospitals are

> becoming more holistic in their approach and it's possible that one of

> them near you would welcome you, either as a staff member or

> consultant. You might also consider doing classes with expectant

> mothers through a hospital or birthing center.

>

> Get yourself a card and a concise flyer or brochure made with

> information about you and the services you can offer. Bring them to

> the places I've previously mentioned as well as to OB/GYN offices.

> Offer your services as a consultant and doula. You'll probably go over

> well if you're attired in dress casual in soft colors and project that

> maternal energy you must have oodles of.

>

> I don't know if you have used her book before, but Cherie Sohnen Moe's

> " Business Mastery " is a great reference for bodyworkers and is used in

> many schools as a text for Marketing. She's a member of Body_Work and

> has also written other books, including one on professional ethics

> (I'm fond of that one, I got a nod in the acknowledgments LOL).

>

> Using the term " Master " is traditional for Reiki as a Japanese

> technique. I think we as Westerners have a different impression of

> what the word means, though I will admit as one myself I don't think

> any of us ever master Reiki, we just hold on for dear life ;-)

>

> Blessings,

> Crow

>

[Guest guest]

> Using the term " Master " is traditional for Reiki as a Japanese

> technique. I think we as Westerners have a different impression of

> what the word means, though I will admit as one myself I don't think

> any of us ever master Reiki, we just hold on for dear life ;-)

 

The term " master " is used the same way in the martial arts. A " master "

knows the subject well enough to teach it to others. Some styles are

stingier with the term than others. Tae Kwon Do uses the term for those

who have established schools. Uechi-Ryu uses the term for the head of

Uechi-Ryu Karate Do. Those who have schools are called Sensei (teacher).

 

In the West, we refer to art work as a " masterpiece, " which implies that

it was produced by a " master. " I have always thought of it as a title,

in much the same way that Ph.D. and R.N. are titles. It doesn't mean--or

at least it shouldn't mean--that learning as stopped.

 

Happy birthday, Crow.

 

--

___________________________

*Joel P. Bowman, Ph.D.*

/*SCS Matters, LLC

*/Voice: (269) 267-1419/*

*/www.scs-matters.com

Small Changes ... Infinite Results|^TM | <http://www.scs-matters.com/>

[Guest guest]

Toni:

 

I'm sad to hear that your area has regressed like that. Have there

been any reasons for that, rumors or lawsuits? What do others in the

community contribute it to?

 

I haven't heard of that book before, but I'm going to look it up and

see if I might want to add it to my home library.

 

Thanks,

Crow

 

, reikiIII wrote:

>

> Thank you for your kind reply, Crow! I already mailed out

information to the homebirth midwives in my area. So far, one has

actually called me to find out more. She runs an out of hospital birth

center, so she may turn out to be an excellent contact. The hospitals

and OBs in my area are very closed-minded about most alternative and

complementary therapies, unfortunately. They didn't used to be this

way... it has gradually happened over the past fifteen years as the

OBs have systematically lowered the number of certified nurse-midwives

who can practice here. They like to pretend the homebirth midwives

don't even exist, and when they must cross paths, the majority of them

threaten the parents with CPS for " endangering their babies " by

birthing at home.

>

> I joined our local birth network (full of childbirth educators,

doulas and others who work in the birth field)... and aside from a

friend of mine who trains doulas, the rest have not even offered a

reply or a welcome in my direction. I can see that I have some

obstacles to overcome, but I am determined to do just that. I am doing

a booth at our local Saturday Market offering sample sessions of

reiki. I'm still getting our materials together about pregnancy and birth.

>

> I will look into that book you recommend. I was reading about

another on Amazon as well... are you or anyone else familiar with a

book called " Selling the Invisible " ? It had a lot of good reviews and

is about selling services.

>

> --

> Blessings,

> Toni

> http://organic-birth.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

Joel:

 

Thank you... as usual you explained it much better than I could.

 

And thanks for the birthday wishes! I've decided to make this a

" birthweek " instead so I can wallow in the happiness for more than one

day :-D

 

Blessings,

Crow

 

, " Joel P. Bowman " <joel wrote:

>

> > Using the term " Master " is traditional for Reiki as a Japanese

> > technique. I think we as Westerners have a different impression of

> > what the word means, though I will admit as one myself I don't think

> > any of us ever master Reiki, we just hold on for dear life ;-)

>

> The term " master " is used the same way in the martial arts. A " master "

> knows the subject well enough to teach it to others. Some styles are

> stingier with the term than others. Tae Kwon Do uses the term for those

> who have established schools. Uechi-Ryu uses the term for the head of

> Uechi-Ryu Karate Do. Those who have schools are called Sensei (teacher).

>

> In the West, we refer to art work as a " masterpiece, " which implies

that

> it was produced by a " master. " I have always thought of it as a title,

> in much the same way that Ph.D. and R.N. are titles. It doesn't

mean--or

> at least it shouldn't mean--that learning as stopped.

>

> Happy birthday, Crow.

>

> --

> ___________________________

> *Joel P. Bowman, Ph.D.*

> /*SCS Matters, LLC

> */Voice: (269) 267-1419/*

> */www.scs-matters.com

> Small Changes ... Infinite Results|^TM | <http://www.scs-matters.com/>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Crow,

 

I think a lot of the OBs in town felt threatened by the midwives. While I was

pregnant with my 4th, I was seeing a practice with 2 CNMs and 6 OBs. Two weeks

before I gave birth, the OBs fired both midwives, taking one right out of a

hospital room with a laboring mom. It seems most of the clients there preferred

the midwives, so the OBs just got rid of them. One of those CNMs went on to

fight to regain her hospital privileges, and practiced on her own for several

years. A couple of years ago, she had to quit when none of the OBs would provide

the back up she needed by state law.

 

I have since moved on to homebirths for my own children to avoid this problem,

but there is division there as well. Our state has voluntary licensure for

homebirth midwives. About 2/3 in my town are licensed (this allows them to

accept Medicaid, and bars them from some practices). We also have a few

traditional midwives who choose not to be licensed. Most of these midwives have

been practicing for over 20 years. On the surface, everyone gets along but there

unfortunately is a lot of competition and backstabbing below the surface. The

doulas are not much better, competition-wise.

 

Most of the homebirth midwives in town are not interested in training

apprentices (the traditional model for midwives to gain clinical experience)

because of this feeling of competition. I believe there are plenty of clients

for everyone and have recently begun sending reiki to the situation in hopes of

improving it. I don't understand why everyone must be so competitive and harsh

to each other.

 

--

Blessings,

Toni

http://organic-birth.com

 

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" Caroline Abreu " <mizz.crow

> Toni:

>

> I'm sad to hear that your area has regressed like that. Have there

> been any reasons for that, rumors or lawsuits? What do others in the

> community contribute it to?

>

> I haven't heard of that book before, but I'm going to look it up and

> see if I might want to add it to my home library.

>

> Thanks,

> Crow

>

> , reikiIII wrote:

> >

> > Thank you for your kind reply, Crow! I already mailed out

> information to the homebirth midwives in my area. So far, one has

> actually called me to find out more. She runs an out of hospital birth

> center, so she may turn out to be an excellent contact. The hospitals

> and OBs in my area are very closed-minded about most alternative and

> complementary therapies, unfortunately. They didn't used to be this

> way... it has gradually happened over the past fifteen years as the

> OBs have systematically lowered the number of certified nurse-midwives

> who can practice here. They like to pretend the homebirth midwives

> don't even exist, and when they must cross paths, the majority of them

> threaten the parents with CPS for " endangering their babies " by

> birthing at home.

> >

> > I joined our local birth network (full of childbirth educators,

> doulas and others who work in the birth field)... and aside from a

> friend of mine who trains doulas, the rest have not even offered a

> reply or a welcome in my direction. I can see that I have some

> obstacles to overcome, but I am determined to do just that. I am doing

> a booth at our local Saturday Market offering sample sessions of

> reiki. I'm still getting our materials together about pregnancy and birth.

> >

> > I will look into that book you recommend. I was reading about

> another on Amazon as well... are you or anyone else familiar with a

> book called " Selling the Invisible " ? It had a lot of good reviews and

> is about selling services.

> >

> > --

> > Blessings,

> > Toni

> > http://organic-birth.com

> >

> >

>

>