Guest guest Posted November 14, 2001 Report Share Posted November 14, 2001 Greg, This is great information, first time I've seen someone address autoimmune in this manner. <<This is what occurs when our cell membranes get too much Omega 6 fatty acids and too little Omega 3. However you don't want to go too far in the opposite direction as when the cell needs to be proinflammatory it may not do so.>> This seems like such a delicate balance. <<To balance your body for eicosanoids you need to follow the recommendations of a recent US working committee: 1) Omega 6 LA > 1 g & < 7 g (No veggie oil products except canola & olive oil) 2) Omega 3 LNA ~ 2.5 g (1 tablespoon of ground flax) 3) Omega 3 EPA + DHA ~ 0.6 g (1 serve of fatty fish or 2 standard fish oil capsules)>> I take flax oil on occasion or fish oil capsules and I cook with olive oil, so I would guess my oil consumptions is OK. What is the advantage of ground flax over flax oil? <<The US National Institute of Health has produced a software package which will analyse your diet and calculate your various Omega intakes and the amount of Omega 6 verus Omega 3 in your cell membranes.>> I did a search for this and came up with nothing... do they have a web site? <<You can also get a red blood cell membrane fatty acid analysis done. I would strongly suggest anyone with ANY medical condition to get this done. It's more important than cholesterol!!!!>> Is this test done through a regular Dr's office? What would you look for in the results of this test? Terri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 - <annhope1 Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:47 AM Re: autoimmune > Greg, > This is great information, first time I've seen someone address autoimmune in > this manner. A body shifted into a more proinflammatory status will trigger more immune reactions. Most cases of rheumatoid arthritis can be put into regression by aggressive Omega 3 intake. > <<This is what occurs when our cell membranes get too much Omega 6 fatty > acids and too little Omega 3. However you don't want to go too far in the > opposite direction as when the cell needs to be proinflammatory it may not do > so.>> > > This seems like such a delicate balance. Not really. The problem is way too much Omega 6 LA from veggie oil products and not enough fatty fish. > I take flax oil on occasion or fish oil capsules and I cook with olive oil, > so I would guess my oil consumptions is OK. What is the advantage of ground > flax over flax oil? Cost, less rancidity, less processing by unknown agents, less exposure to oxidizing agents, additional flax seed benefits (phytoestrogens & fibre) & use. Ground flax seed can be used in cooking, sprinkled on cereal, salads, etc. It has a nutty taste. We use 1 tablespoon with our morning smoothie. Once Omega 6 LA is controlled you can focus on getting more EPA & DHA from either fish or fish oil capsules. We eat about 3 serves of fish a week, one of chicken, two days meat free & I fast on most Mondays. > <<The US National Institute of Health has produced a software package which > will analyse your diet and calculate your various Omega intakes and the > amount of Omega 6 verus Omega 3 in your cell membranes.>> > > I did a search for this and came up with nothing... do they have a web site? http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/index.html http://ods.od.nih.gov/eicosanoids/KIM_Install.exe (12 mb but worth it!) > <<You can also get a red blood cell membrane fatty acid analysis done. I > would strongly suggest anyone with ANY medical condition to get this done. > It's more important than cholesterol!!!!>> > > Is this test done through a regular Dr's office? What would you look for in > the results of this test? Here is one lab that your doctor can send a blood sample to: http://www.gsdl.com/assessments/fattyacids/ Hi Terri, Download KIM and put your diet into analysis. KIM is also a great tool to teach & learn about Omegas. You may be surprised what foods are naturally Omega 6 rich. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 Hello everyone, I have a question about flax seeds. How much do we need to eat a day and do they have to be crushed into a powder. Thank you very much for your help, Deborah The NL Come visit us @ http://birdchild.com or eMail me at deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 --- Deb <deb wrote: > > I have a question about flax seeds. How much do we > need to eat a day and do > they have to be crushed into a powder. Hi Deborah, Yes, the seed have to be ground into flaxmeal. Since it is highly perishable, it is suggested to consume just the freshly ground flaxmeal. 1 to 3 ounces of the freshly ground meal per day is encouraged. Pam Find the one for you at Personals http://personals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 - " Deb " <deb Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:54 PM Re: Re: autoimmune > Hello everyone, > > I have a question about flax seeds. How much do we need to eat a day and do > they have to be crushed into a powder. Hi Deborah, Yes they must be ground, otherwise they will come out as they went in. I use a coffee grinder and do about a kilo at a time. Store the ground seeds in a air tight container in your fridge. I use 1 tablespoon over cereal, salads, in smoothes, etc. 1 tablespoon a day should do it. Just be sure to try to eliminate using veggie oil Omega 6 linoleic oil (LA) based products as Omega balancing is about reducing Omega 6 LA. Here is a good chart to compare oils: http://www.freshhempfoods.com/nutrition/comp-table.html As you can see olive and canola are the oils to use due to their high mono, low saturated & low Omega 6 LA content. Omega 3 enriched, trans free canola is what we use for oil and margarine. Yes it is trans free! Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 - " Greg Watson " <gowatson Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:52 PM Re: Re: autoimmune > - > " Deb " <deb > > Thursday, November 15, 2001 3:54 PM > Re: Re: autoimmune > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I have a question about flax seeds. How much do we need to eat a day and do > > they have to be crushed into a powder. > > Hi Deborah, > > Yes they must be ground, otherwise they will come out as they went in. > > I use a coffee grinder and do about a kilo at a time. Store the ground seeds in a air tight container in your fridge. You sure it is ok to store ground flax for that long? I have eard that after a week storage of ground seeds in the fridge, the flax meal is full of break-down products & should not be eaten. Do you vacuum pack the meal before storing it? Alobar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 - " Alobar " <alobar Friday, November 16, 2001 8:07 AM Re: Re: autoimmune > > I use a coffee grinder and do about a kilo at a time. Store the ground > seeds in a air tight container in your fridge. > > You sure it is ok to store ground flax for that long? I have eard > that after a week storage of ground seeds in the fridge, the flax meal is > full of break-down products & should not be eaten. Do you vacuum pack the > meal before storing it? Hi Alobar, The ground seed has plenty of Vit E to protect the Omega 3 LNA from oxidation. The rest is market hype. We put a weeks worth ~ 200 g in a sealed jar in the fridge and the rest in a air tight bag in the freezer. No it doesn't freeze. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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