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In a message dated 11/9/2001 6:26:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

califpacific writes:

 

 

> I am not familiar with Baclofen. What type of drug is it?

>

 

Dear Frank.....

 

Baclofen is a muscle relaxant and a strong CNS depressant. It was given to

me for Piriformis Syndrome. I had horrible side effects from it and stopped.

 

The hospital and Poisen Control said I had to go back on the offending drugs,

which were Baclofen and Ativan....they designed a taper for me and I have

been following it. Baclofen is not a benzo and I don't think substituting

Valium would do it........

 

But any other advice you can give me, I would certainly appreciate.

 

Lee

 

 

 

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Friday, November 09, 2001 3:39 PM

Re: Re: Help For Muscle Spasms?

 

 

>

> Yes, if you could I'd appreciate it......I'm already taking the

cal-mag-zinc

> and valerian.......but it's not working.

>

Dear Lee,

 

Ask you doctor to give you a perscription for magnesium sulfate injections

and teach you how to inject yourself. If he won't, the next best thing is

to orally take magnesium orotates which have the ability to penetrate the

cell. Also, what kind of calcium are you taking? Dr. Barefoot's brand of

coral calcium is very good.

 

Gail

>

>

> [

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Dear Lee,

I didn't mean to imply that natural substances would not help you,

because i believe that they can.

 

It's just that withdrawal symptoms are so strong usually because hte

medicines cause so much pain and damage. I believe that nutrition and

supplements are very important as you can ameliorate some of the

symptoms, prevent your body from breaking down health wise and

rebuilding any damage caused by the benzos and withdrawal.

 

I think that the supplements can shorten the time necessary to healing

but sometimes some might even cause some additional severity in your

symptoms as you are healing, even though the healing time might be a

lot shorter.

Frank

 

 

Gettingwell, califpacific wrote:

> Dear Lee,

>

> I am not familiar with Baclofen. What type of drug is it?

>

> I do not have the personal experience about ativan but I think it

has

> a very short half life doesn't it?

>

> May I ask why you didn't switch to valium for your taper ala Prof

> Ashton -Tate? Many people have had good luck doing so.

>

> I think once that our bodies go into severe allergic/tolerance

> withdrawal reaction to the medication that it then is very, very

> difficult to restabilize on the same meds.

>

> If the ativan withdrawal is causing your muscle problem, it would be

> very difficult to campletey relieve the symptoms of withdrawal by

> herbs or vitamins alone, even though they will help. The main way to

> relieve the symptoms of withdrawal pain is to go back on a similiar

> med, I would consider switching to a long acting benzo and do a

very

> slow taper.

>

> Docters don't usually know enough to take the responsibility to

safely

> get you off these type of medications. I suggest that you learn all

> you can and direct your own taper. After all it is your body and you

> will know what is best by feeling what is going on. As you know

there

> are a lot of people who have been damaged by taking people off

> benzodiazapines too fast.

>

> I will still try and come up with suggestions to help you. Its just

> that these benzodiazapines are so powerfull and so damaging.

>

> good luck,

> Frank

>

>

>

> Gettingwell, marthafns@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 11/9/2001 5:35:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > califpacific writes:

> >

> >

> > > Are you completely off all medications?

> > >

> >

> > Frank.....

> >

> > No....I am presently doing a long slow taper off Baclofen and

> Ativan. I

> > nearly died from the Baclofen and my primary care doc gave me

Ativan

> to

> > 'counter-act' that... so now I have to taper off both.

> >

> > I was on 30 mg Baclofen a day and now I'm down to 2.5 mg.

> >

> > Ativan: was on 3 mg. a day and now I'm down to .1 mg..........I

> think it's

> > the Ativan that is giving me all the problems. I've been at 2.5

mg

> Baclofen

> > for some time now..it's when I cut back on the Ativan that things

> get much

> > worse.

> >

> > I'll take any help I can get..........this severe muscle rigidity

is

> killing

> > me.

> >

> > Lee

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Lee,

 

No I think you might have misread my message.

 

I said that you might consider switching to a long acting benzo

because you said that you thought your muscle problems were from the

ativan. Which it very well could be the cause of your muscle problems.

Most people on ativan usually expeience going into and out of

withdrawal between doses as it has a very short half life.

 

If any of you members are currently taking any benzodiazapine

medications or some other neurotropic medications like anti

depressants, CNS depressants, pleae beware that these medications can

be very damaging to you.

 

There are some websites that can help you be informed like :

http://www.benzo.org.uk

 

Will post more later.

Frank

 

 

Gettingwell, marthafns@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/9/2001 6:26:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> califpacific writes:

>

>

> > I am not familiar with Baclofen. What type of drug is it?

> >

>

> Dear Frank.....

>

> Baclofen is a muscle relaxant and a strong CNS depressant. It was

given to

> me for Piriformis Syndrome. I had horrible side effects from it and

stopped.

>

> The hospital and Poisen Control said I had to go back on the

offending drugs,

> which were Baclofen and Ativan....they designed a taper for me and I

have

> been following it. Baclofen is not a benzo and I don't think

substituting

> Valium would do it........

>

> But any other advice you can give me, I would certainly appreciate.

>

> Lee

>

>

>

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Hi Frank....

 

Yes, I am a member of all the benzo boards, and I have been to all the sites.

Years ago I had a very bad reaction to Valium, so I don't think that is an

option to replace the Ativan.....in any advent, I don't have access to any

and my current doctor is not very helpfull. Doctors around here don't

believe in 'withdrawal'. My previous doctor told me that short-life drugs

were NOT addicting because they all left your body in a very few hours and so

you were back to normal.

 

I think my best course right now is to continue with my slow taper.......

 

Lee

 

 

 

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