Turmeric

March 3, 2009

When I read or research about turmeric, I find it is used interchangeably

with curcumin. Then it will say that turmeric " contains " the important

ingredient, curcumin. Other places say they are the same thing. Yet, at the

health

food store you can buy capsules containing turmeric, and on another shelf

will be capsules containing curcumin.

Does anybody actually know the difference? (SOS: Mike Adams)

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March 3, 2009

Sorry i forgot the link again. Melly--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote:

Melly Bag <tita_melTurmericTuesday, March 3, 2009, 12:09 PM

Below is the turmeric website of WholeFoods which gives great information on this spice. You can make your own powder, IF, you find organic turmeric root.

There is a paragraph that shows how it is done.

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice & dbid=78

Melly

March 5, 2009

Marji

You are right about the names being used interchangeably. I think the

manufacturers use it to suit their needs. The Latin name is curcurim longa so

there is some validity to the claim. As far as the active ingedient, I think

researchers sometimes use the active ingredient but you would have to look at

the methodology to know for sure. Hardly any manufacturer would use just the

active ingredient unless they said so, so they could justify the higher prices.

My teacher told us to saute the turmeric powder before using it. I presume to

release some compounds. He suggested sauteing it in water for 8 minutes to make

a paste and then store it. Some researchers at UCLA did some studies on a

turmeric compound, which they claim is 50 times more potent than " regular

tumeric " .

http://www.gourmet.com/foodpolitics/2008/11/turmeric

GB

, marjij wrote:

>

> When I read or research about turmeric, I find it is used interchangeably

> with curcumin. Then it will say that turmeric " contains " the important

> ingredient, curcumin. Other places say they are the same thing. Yet, at the

health

> food store you can buy capsules containing turmeric, and on another shelf

> will be capsules containing curcumin.

>

> Does anybody actually know the difference? (SOS: Mike Adams)

>

> Marji

> **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area.

>

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>

March 6, 2009

Marji,

My understanding is that Turmeric, Curcumin, and Curry are the same thing. If I

am incorrect, someone please correct me.

All my best, Victoria :-)

Turmeric, curcumin and curry are not the same thing. Turmeric is a root which is

ground

up and it contains about 3% curcumin. Curry is more of a generic mixture of

various

spices but always contains turmeric, coriander seeds, cumin seeds and fenugreek

seeds.

Cloves, red pepper, garlic, black pepper, cinnamon and other spices may be added

depending where it is made and who makes it.

Jack

March 6, 2009

Curry has insignificant amount of turmeric. So don't equate the two. Turmeric is

fat soluble. It is better to sate in fat (coconut oil is best). Traditionally it

is boiled in milk taken as medicine. Check out the web.

Suren

April 10, 2009

Cyndi, mercola.com articles are not readable unless one is a member.

I used to at one time, but over the course of a few months, I decided

that Dr. Mercola's advertising of his products made much of his information

suspect in my mind.

Here is a less commercial article on curcumin, the active ingredient in tumeric:

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/curcumin/

The important thing I found interesting is that orally ingested curcumin is not

very bioavailable.

That said, my husband has been using tumeric as an anti-inflammatory pain

reliever for many years with great success. He gets the best success when he

combines the tumeric with white pepper. The white pepper increases the

bioavailability of the curcumin.

One can also get a commercial piper niger extract called Bioperine that

increases bioavailablity of other nutrients. Read about it here:

http://www.bioperine.com/what_is_it.htm

Or one can get a product with the two ingredients already combined from the Life

Extension Agency. (Though we love Life Extension products, we avoid the expense

and do plain tumeric capsules and add about an 1/8 tsp. of white pepper.)

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Nice articles, Thanks!

Cyndi

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November 6, 2009

Hi All,

Below is a press release from FreshPlaza on " liposomal turmeric " capsules.

Can the process to make liposomal Vitamin C be used to make liposomal turmeric,

say instead of using Vit C, use turmeric powder instead?

Your views are most welcome.

Melly

=============

India: Turmeric may help offer treatments for colon cancer, psoriasis,

alzheimer's

Curcumin, an ingredient commonly found in yellow curry, is being viewed as a

promising disease-fighter. Scientists are working on developing nano-sized

capsules containing the curry ingredient in an effort to improve its absorption

and effectiveness in the body.

Curcumin is a potent antioxidant found in the Indian spice called turmeric.

The research team is developing nano-size capsule that would boost the body's

uptake of curcumin and help fight several diseases.

Trials are underway to test its safety and effectiveness in fighting colon

cancer, psoriasis, and alzheimer's disease.

The digestive juice in the gastrointestinal tract quickly destroys curcumin so

that little actually gets into the blood.

It is already known that encapsulating insulin and certain other drugs into

structures called liposomes can boost absorption.

The scientists prepared the liposomes encapsulating curcumin and fed them to

laboratory rats.

They found that encapsulating more than quadrupled absorption of curcumin, and

also boosted antioxidant levels in the blood.

The researchers said that encapsulating process could be an answer to the

problem of increasing curcumin's absorption in the digestive environment of the

gastrointestinal tract.

The study appears in ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a

bi-weekly publication.

Source: expressindia.com

Publication date: 11/6/2009

November 6, 2009

Hi Melly.

My to cents worth of opinion.

Why exclude vitamin C ? Use the Lecithin vitamin C and the Turmeric together and called it what ever, but without the vitamin C you cant called it liposomal C.

Hugs Mary

-

Melly Bag

oleander soup ; ; cancercured

Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:33 AM

Turmeric

Hi All,

Below is a press release from FreshPlaza on "liposomal turmeric" capsules.

Can the process to make liposomal Vitamin C be used to make liposomal turmeric, say instead of using Vit C, use turmeric powder instead?

Your views are most welcome.

Melly

=============

India: Turmeric may help offer treatments for colon cancer, psoriasis, alzheimer'sCurcumin, an ingredient commonly found in yellow curry, is being viewed as a promising disease-fighter. Scientists are working on developing nano-sized capsules containing the curry ingredient in an effort to improve its absorption and effectiveness in the body.Curcumin is a potent antioxidant found in the Indian spice called turmeric.The research team is developing nano-size capsule that would boost the body's uptake of curcumin and help fight several diseases.Trials are underway to test its safety and effectiveness in fighting colon cancer, psoriasis, and alzheimer's disease.The digestive juice in the gastrointestinal tract quickly destroys curcumin so that little actually gets into the blood.It is already known that encapsulating insulin and certain other drugs into structures called liposomes can boost absorption.The scientists prepared the liposomes encapsulating curcumin and fed them to laboratory rats.They found that encapsulating more than quadrupled absorption of curcumin, and also boosted antioxidant levels in the blood.The researchers said that encapsulating process could be an answer to the problem of increasing curcumin's absorption in the digestive environment of the gastrointestinal tract.The study appears in ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a bi-weekly publication. Source: expressindia.com

Publication date: 11/6/2009

November 7, 2009

For what it is worth: I take turmeric powder and add olive

oil (next batch will be turmeric oil), and heat it while stirring, then add it

to a sonicator and add resveratrol (ground in a small blender), a small amount

of ascorbic acid powder, Lecithin powder and water. I sonicate with

heat for 15 minutes or so and put the batch in the refrigerator. I take a

tablespoon every morning mixed with V-8 juice. It does not taste bad at

all. My lung cancer has not spread and all the tumors have shrunk.

I also use oleander and have been on chemotherapy. I also do Budwig.

Bob Rehberg

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf

Of Maria

Friday, November 06, 2009 5:15 PM

oleander soup

Re: Turmeric

Hi Melly.

My to cents

worth of opinion.

Why exclude

vitamin C ? Use the Lecithin vitamin C and the Turmeric together

and called it what ever, but without the vitamin C you cant called

it liposomal C.

Hugs Mary

-----

Original Message -----

Melly Bag

oleander soup

;

; cancercured

Saturday, November

07, 2009 2:33 AM

Turmeric

Hi All,

Below is a press release from FreshPlaza on

" liposomal turmeric " capsules.

Can the process to make liposomal Vitamin C be used to

make liposomal turmeric, say instead of using Vit C, use turmeric powder

instead?

Your views are most welcome.

Melly

=============

India: Turmeric may help offer

treatments for colon cancer, psoriasis, alzheimer's

Curcumin, an ingredient commonly found in yellow curry, is being viewed

as a promising disease-fighter. Scientists are working on developing

nano-sized capsules containing the curry ingredient in an effort to improve

its absorption and effectiveness in the body.

Curcumin is a potent antioxidant found in the Indian spice called turmeric.

The research team is developing nano-size capsule that would boost the body's

uptake of curcumin and help fight several diseases.

Trials are underway to test its safety and effectiveness in fighting colon

cancer, psoriasis, and alzheimer's disease.

The digestive juice in the gastrointestinal tract quickly destroys curcumin

so that little actually gets into the blood.

It is already known that encapsulating insulin and certain other drugs into

structures called liposomes can boost absorption.

The scientists prepared the liposomes encapsulating curcumin

and fed them to laboratory rats.

They found that encapsulating more than quadrupled absorption of curcumin,

and also boosted antioxidant levels in the blood.

The researchers said that encapsulating process could be an answer to the

problem of increasing curcumin's absorption in the digestive environment of

the gastrointestinal tract.

The study appears in ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a bi-weekly

publication.

Source: expressindia.com

Publication date: 11/6/2009

November 7, 2009

Hi Bob.

It seems to me you are doing just fine taking what you think is right for you, and your cancer has not spread which it's fantastic news, i'll say keep doing what you are doing and good luck.

On the other hand i dont use a machine just mixed the ingredience turmeric, vitamin C and Lecithin in a glass jar with water, so would you please explain to me what is a ( Sonicator ) and why heat the oil ?

Hugs Mary

-

Bobby E Rehberg

oleander soup

Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:27 AM

RE: Turmeric

For what it is worth: I take turmeric powder and add olive oil (next batch will be turmeric oil), and heat it while stirring, then add it to a sonicator and add resveratrol (ground in a small blender), a small amount of ascorbic acid powder, Lecithin powder and water. I sonicate with heat for 15 minutes or so and put the batch in the refrigerator. I take a tablespoon every morning mixed with V-8 juice. It does not taste bad at all. My lung cancer has not spread and all the tumors have shrunk. I also use oleander and have been on chemotherapy. I also do Budwig.

Bob Rehberg

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaFriday, November 06, 2009 5:15 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: Turmeric

Hi Melly.

My to cents worth of opinion.

Why exclude vitamin C ? Use the Lecithin vitamin C and the Turmeric together and called it what ever, but without the vitamin C you cant called it liposomal C.

Hugs Mary

-

Melly Bag

oleander soup ; ; cancercured

Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:33 AM

Turmeric

Hi All,

Below is a press release from FreshPlaza on "liposomal turmeric" capsules.

Can the process to make liposomal Vitamin C be used to make liposomal turmeric, say instead of using Vit C, use turmeric powder instead?

Your views are most welcome.

Melly

=============

India: Turmeric may help offer treatments for colon cancer, psoriasis, alzheimer'sCurcumin, an ingredient commonly found in yellow curry, is being viewed as a promising disease-fighter. Scientists are working on developing nano-sized capsules containing the curry ingredient in an effort to improve its absorption and effectiveness in the body.Curcumin is a potent antioxidant found in the Indian spice called turmeric.The research team is developing nano-size capsule that would boost the body's uptake of curcumin and help fight several diseases.Trials are underway to test its safety and effectiveness in fighting colon cancer, psoriasis, and alzheimer's disease.The digestive juice in the gastrointestinal tract quickly destroys curcumin so that little actually gets into the blood.It is already known that encapsulating insulin and certain other drugs into structures called liposomes can boost absorption.The scientists prepared the liposomes encapsulating curcumin and fed them to laboratory rats.They found that encapsulating more than quadrupled absorption of curcumin, and also boosted antioxidant levels in the blood.The researchers said that encapsulating process could be an answer to the problem of increasing curcumin's absorption in the digestive environment of the gastrointestinal tract.The study appears in ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a bi-weekly publication. Source: expressindia.com

Publication date: 11/6/2009

November 7, 2009

Curcurmin is not very soluble in water, but is soluble to a

degree in oil, so heating it with some oil can help solubilize it and make it

more bioavailable. It is a stable compound, so moderate heat will not

destroy it.

In order to make liposomes, which are nanometer sized fat globules

that can encase an active ingredient and pass through cell membranes, you

have to apply pressure and a sonicator is an inexpensive machine to

accomplish this. Look on the internet and you can find numerous ones.

I bought a Crest 200HT, which is probably a bit of overkill for what I am

doing, but it is powerful and has a heater to speed liposome formation.

Commercial machines to make liposomes operate at 10,000 psi and up and cost

many thousands of dollars, and while a sonicator cannot make the really small

sizes that commercial machines can, it is close enough for what we are

doing. Soy Lecithin is really the key to liposomes since it has a natural

tendency to encapsulate substances.

Other materials can be added to the mix so that you have an

anti-cancer cocktail. The Vitamin C from liposomes is much more active

than normally ingested C. I do not add much C since there are conflicting

reports of the benefits of C in the literature----Linus Pauling notwithstanding

.. In some research, it made the cancer worse and increased tumor growth,

so I am not a proponent of high C levels.

Bob R

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf

Of Maria

Friday, November 06, 2009 9:41 PM

oleander soup

Re: Turmeric

Hi Bob.

It seems to

me you are doing just fine taking what you think is right for you, and your

cancer has not spread which it's fantastic news, i'll say keep doing what you

are doing and good luck.

On the

other hand i dont use a machine just mixed the ingredience turmeric,

vitamin C and Lecithin in a glass jar with water, so would you

please explain to me what is a ( Sonicator ) and why heat the oil ?

Hugs Mary

-----

Original Message -----

Bobby E Rehberg

oleander soup

Saturday, November

07, 2009 11:27 AM

RE:

Turmeric

For what it is worth: I take

turmeric powder and add olive oil (next batch will be turmeric oil), and heat

it while stirring, then add it to a sonicator and add resveratrol (ground in a

small blender), a small amount of ascorbic acid powder, Lecithin powder

and water. I sonicate with heat for 15 minutes or so and put the batch in

the refrigerator. I take a tablespoon every morning mixed with V-8

juice. It does not taste bad at all. My lung cancer has not spread

and all the tumors have shrunk. I also use oleander and have been on chemotherapy.

I also do Budwig.

Bob Rehberg

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf

Of Maria

Friday, November 06, 2009 5:15 PM

oleander soup

Re: Turmeric

Hi

Melly.

My

to cents worth of opinion.

Why

exclude vitamin C ? Use the Lecithin vitamin C and the Turmeric

together and called it what ever, but without the vitamin C you cant

called it liposomal C.

Hugs

Mary

-

Melly Bag

oleander soup

;

; cancercured

Sent:

Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:33 AM

Subject:

Turmeric

Hi

All,

Below

is a press release from FreshPlaza on " liposomal turmeric "

capsules.

Can

the process to make liposomal Vitamin C be used to make liposomal turmeric,

say instead of using Vit C, use turmeric powder instead?

Your

views are most welcome.

Melly

=============

India: Turmeric may help offer treatments for colon cancer,

psoriasis, alzheimer's

Curcumin, an ingredient commonly found in yellow curry, is being viewed

as a promising disease-fighter. Scientists are working on developing

nano-sized capsules containing the curry ingredient in an effort to improve

its absorption and effectiveness in the body.

Curcumin is a potent antioxidant found in the Indian spice called turmeric.

The research team is developing nano-size capsule that would boost the body's

uptake of curcumin and help fight several diseases.

Trials are underway to test its safety and effectiveness in fighting colon

cancer, psoriasis, and alzheimer's disease.

The digestive juice in the gastrointestinal tract quickly destroys curcumin

so that little actually gets into the blood.

It is already known that encapsulating insulin and certain other drugs into

structures called liposomes can boost absorption.

The scientists prepared the liposomes encapsulating curcumin

and fed them to laboratory rats.

They found that encapsulating more than quadrupled absorption of curcumin,

and also boosted antioxidant levels in the blood.

The researchers said that encapsulating process could be an answer to the

problem of increasing curcumin's absorption in the digestive environment of

the gastrointestinal tract.

The study appears in ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a

bi-weekly publication.

Source: expressindia.com

Publication

date: 11/6/2009

November 7, 2009

Ok Bob.

Now you give me to do more home work lol, but thanks for your replay and the information.

All the best

Hugs Mary

-

Bobby E Rehberg

oleander soup

Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:29 AM

RE: Turmeric

Curcurmin is not very soluble in water, but is soluble to a degree in oil, so heating it with some oil can help solubilize it and make it more bioavailable. It is a stable compound, so moderate heat will not destroy it.

In order to make liposomes, which are nanometer sized fat globules that can encase an active ingredient and pass through cell membranes, you have to apply pressure and a sonicator is an inexpensive machine to accomplish this. Look on the internet and you can find numerous ones. I bought a Crest 200HT, which is probably a bit of overkill for what I am doing, but it is powerful and has a heater to speed liposome formation. Commercial machines to make liposomes operate at 10,000 psi and up and cost many thousands of dollars, and while a sonicator cannot make the really small sizes that commercial machines can, it is close enough for what we are doing. Soy Lecithin is really the key to liposomes since it has a natural tendency to encapsulate substances.

Other materials can be added to the mix so that you have an anti-cancer cocktail. The Vitamin C from liposomes is much more active than normally ingested C. I do not add much C since there are conflicting reports of the benefits of C in the literature----Linus Pauling notwithstanding . In some research, it made the cancer worse and increased tumor growth, so I am not a proponent of high C levels.

Bob R

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaFriday, November 06, 2009 9:41 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: Turmeric

Hi Bob.

It seems to me you are doing just fine taking what you think is right for you, and your cancer has not spread which it's fantastic news, i'll say keep doing what you are doing and good luck.

On the other hand i dont use a machine just mixed the ingredience turmeric, vitamin C and Lecithin in a glass jar with water, so would you please explain to me what is a ( Sonicator ) and why heat the oil ?

Hugs Mary

-

Bobby E Rehberg

oleander soup

Saturday, November 07, 2009 11:27 AM

RE: Turmeric

For what it is worth: I take turmeric powder and add olive oil (next batch will be turmeric oil), and heat it while stirring, then add it to a sonicator and add resveratrol (ground in a small blender), a small amount of ascorbic acid powder, Lecithin powder and water. I sonicate with heat for 15 minutes or so and put the batch in the refrigerator. I take a tablespoon every morning mixed with V-8 juice. It does not taste bad at all. My lung cancer has not spread and all the tumors have shrunk. I also use oleander and have been on chemotherapy. I also do Budwig.

Bob Rehberg

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of MariaFriday, November 06, 2009 5:15 PMoleander soup Subject: Re: Turmeric

Hi Melly.

My to cents worth of opinion.

Why exclude vitamin C ? Use the Lecithin vitamin C and the Turmeric together and called it what ever, but without the vitamin C you cant called it liposomal C.

Hugs Mary

-

Melly Bag

oleander soup ; ; cancercured

Saturday, November 07, 2009 2:33 AM

Turmeric

Hi All,

Below is a press release from FreshPlaza on "liposomal turmeric" capsules.

Can the process to make liposomal Vitamin C be used to make liposomal turmeric, say instead of using Vit C, use turmeric powder instead?

Your views are most welcome.

Melly

=============

India: Turmeric may help offer treatments for colon cancer, psoriasis, alzheimer'sCurcumin, an ingredient commonly found in yellow curry, is being viewed as a promising disease-fighter. Scientists are working on developing nano-sized capsules containing the curry ingredient in an effort to improve its absorption and effectiveness in the body.Curcumin is a potent antioxidant found in the Indian spice called turmeric.The research team is developing nano-size capsule that would boost the body's uptake of curcumin and help fight several diseases.Trials are underway to test its safety and effectiveness in fighting colon cancer, psoriasis, and alzheimer's disease.The digestive juice in the gastrointestinal tract quickly destroys curcumin so that little actually gets into the blood.It is already known that encapsulating insulin and certain other drugs into structures called liposomes can boost absorption.The scientists prepared the liposomes encapsulating curcumin and fed them to laboratory rats.They found that encapsulating more than quadrupled absorption of curcumin, and also boosted antioxidant levels in the blood.The researchers said that encapsulating process could be an answer to the problem of increasing curcumin's absorption in the digestive environment of the gastrointestinal tract.The study appears in ACS' Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, a bi-weekly publication. Source: expressindia.com

Publication date: 11/6/2009

November 12, 2009

Hi Bob,

Which research found that vitamin C made cancer worse and increased

tumor growth?

I'm not aware of any recent research that has showed this, and none in

humans, and would be interested to check this out.

Paul H

Bobby E Rehberg wrote:

>

> Curcurmin is not very soluble in water, but is soluble to a degree in

> oil, so heating it with some oil can help solubilize it and make it

> more bioavailable. It is a stable compound, so moderate heat will not

> destroy it.

>

> In order to make liposomes, which are nanometer sized fat globules

> that can encase an active ingredient and pass through cell membranes,

> you have to apply pressure and a sonicator is an inexpensive machine

> to accomplish this. Look on the internet and you can find numerous

> ones. I bought a Crest 200HT, which is probably a bit of overkill for

> what I am doing, but it is powerful and has a heater to speed liposome

> formation. Commercial machines to make liposomes operate at 10,000

> psi and up and cost many thousands of dollars, and while a sonicator

> cannot make the really small sizes that commercial machines can, it

> is close enough for what we are doing. Soy Lecithin is really the key

> to liposomes since it has a natural tendency to encapsulate substances.

>

> Other materials can be added to the mix so that you have an

> anti-cancer cocktail. The Vitamin C from liposomes is much more

> active than normally ingested C. I do not add much C since there are

> conflicting reports of the benefits of C in the literature----Linus

> Pauling notwithstanding . In some research, it made the cancer worse

> and increased tumor growth, so I am not a proponent of high C levels.

>

> Bob R

>

November 12, 2009

Paul: I ran across several citations from reputable scientists

when I did a literature search on the internet. It was enough to

give me pause in regards to ascorbic acid and cancer---at least with high rates.

I think normal rates are beneficial. There are some citations that did

show benefit, so there is controversy on the subject. I have concluded

that ascorbic acid is not a primary tool to kill cancer cells and that I should

concentrate on those compounds or substances that show high activity.

Bob R.

oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf

Of Paul

Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:23 AM