Guest guest Posted January 2, 2003 Report Share Posted January 2, 2003 FriendsForHealthNaturally , " JoAnn Guest Fwd: [FWD: Milk Thistle for liver protection] Is your liver under siege? Even a healthy person has to contend with daily assaults on the liver like pollutants, pesticides and food preservatives, which the organ is responsible for detoxifying. Unfortunately, conventional medicine offers little help in the treatment or prevention of liver damage, outside of warnings to limit alcohol consumption and to keep the immune system strong against viruses. Added to that, widespread diseases such as hepatitis and mononucleosis are notorious for their debilitating effects on the liver. They can result in murky-sounding conditions like a " sluggish " or " congested " liver, where a decrease in bile flow leads to overall impairment of liver function. And, considering the liver's role as the most important organ of metabolism (responsible for the absorption of fat soluble substances), even a minor impairment can wreak havoc on your system. All that stress on our livers has created a demand for more liver-boosting treatments. Liver Protection Naturopathic physicians wield a venerable weapon against liver damage almost as old as time: milk thistle (Silybum Marianum) has been used in traditional herbal medicine since the first century AD to protect the liver. Clinical research in this century has confirmed its effectiveness and safety; including more than 300 studies conducted since the late 1960s, according to Steven Foster, author of 101 Medicinal herbs (Interweave Press). Milk thistle seeds contain a bioflavonoid complex known as silymarin, which possesses powerful antioxidant abilities. Foster notes that standardized milk thistle seed preparations have been shown to change the cell structure of the outer liver membrane, which prevents toxic chemicals from entering the organ and stimulates its capacity to generate new cells. Studies have shown milk thistle to be beneficial in the treatment of liver ailments including cirrhosis, fatty liver, radiation toxicity and viral hepatitis. (Altern Med Rev 3 (6), Dec. 1998: 410-21). Mother's Milk Named for the milky white juice the leaves exude when crushed, the milk thistle plant is native to the Mediterranean and grow wild throughout Europe, North America and Australia. Milk thistle's technical name, Marianum, derives from a legend that its leaf veins turned white after being crushed by a drop of the Virgin Mary's breast milk. Perhaps this is why many Europeans wet nurses used milk thistles in their diets, believing that the cooked leaves increased lactation. The healing properties of the plant's milky juice were first recorded by the Roman naturalist Pliny the Elder, who noted that it was good for " carrying off bile " . By the 19th century, German doctors were using a tincture made from milk thistle seeds to treat jaundice and other liver diseases. Fighting Free Radical Damage Milk thistle's ability to fight free radical damage is, in fact, many times more potent than that of Vitamin E, according to Michael Murray, ND, and Joseph Pizzorno, ND, authors of " Encyclopedia of Natural Medicine " (Prima). In addition to its antioxidant properties, milk thistle works in a multitude of ways to fight liver damage. --·It prevents the depletion of glutathione (GSH), an amino acid compound found in the liver which plays a vital role in detoxification. --·It protects against liver harm by toxic chemicals such as carbon tetrachloride and praseodymium nitrate. --·It inhibits the formation of live damaging leukotrienes, inflammatory compounds produced when oxygen interacts with -- polyunsaturated fatty acids. Milk thistle inhibits the enzyme lipoxygenase, which catalyzes the formation of leukotrienes. --·It stimulates protein synthesis, which results in an increase in the production of new liver cells to replace damaged old ones. Toxic Protection In addition to its well-documented healing properties for diseases, milk thistle can actually help prevent liver damage when taken before exposure to toxic chemicals (Min. Med. 72, 1985; 2679-88) Milk thistle is also useful for women who take hormones like estrogen, which can often contribute to a sluggishly performing liver. So while no easy cure can solve liver disease, this strange-looking herb does offer regenerative hope.~ Martin Wall, Botanical Services~ Energy Times (July, Aug. 1999) JoAnn Guest joguest@m... Friendsforhealthnaturally http://www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/AIM.html theaimcompanies " Health is not a Medical Issue " --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2003 Report Share Posted May 10, 2003 In a message dated 5/10/2003 2:16:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, kohwriter writes: Just for the detox, but it depends on how badly you need to detox. I have heard people reccomending it as a tonic herb though... I believe Dr Andrew Weil is one of them. Milk Thistle does MORE than detox. It also helps cure as a regular treatment if needed for liver disorders, great as a regular for people with hepatitis. A friend I know takes it daily and this has helped her immensely. Milk Thistle is one of the only effecitve treatments for a certain type of mushroom poisoning that damages the liver. While it does help detox, it also strengthens, helps regrow, rebalances, and MUCH more for the liver. Erin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2003 Report Share Posted May 11, 2003 I know, it helps accelerate cell rejuvination in the liver and enhances liver health. That is why he (Dr Weil) advocates using it as a tonic herb. He says it has been extensively researched in Europe. I would actually be interested in seeing some of the studies. I didn't know it helps with the mushroom poisoning, that is interesting. I am glad that milk thistle helps your friend. ErinJC23 wrote: In a message dated 5/10/2003 2:16:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, kohwriter writes: Just for the detox, but it depends on how badly you need to detox. I have heard people reccomending it as a tonic herb though... I believe Dr Andrew Weil is one of them.Milk Thistle does MORE than detox. It also helps cure as a regular treatment if needed for liver disorders, great as a regular for people with hepatitis. A friend I know takes it daily and this has helped her immensely. Milk Thistle is one of the only effecitve treatments for a certain type of mushroom poisoning that damages the liver. While it does help detox, it also strengthens, helps regrow, rebalances, and MUCH more for the liver.Erin Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Has anyone used this oil in cp soap? If so, any idea of the SAP number please? Thanks Ann - Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 I've got a small problem - I put some peppermint oil on the back of my neck for a headache - neat - and while I have done this before with other peppermint and never had a problem- this time, a irritation broke out on the back of my neck - kinda like hives - at first it was pretty severe - now its just raised bumbs, no itching, but irritating - it's been about a week now - is there anything to get rid of this?? thanks Blessings, Pam E Web Express - Web Design & Hosting http://www.ewebexpress.com TLC Naturally - Essential Oils & Home Made Goodies http://www.tlcnaturally.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 depends on why you are taking milk thistle and in what form you are taking it.... Bob www.acuherbals.com Stan <sgkatz wrote: Have been taking Milk Thistle for about a month. Should a stop for awhile and resume later. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner Shortcut URL to this page: /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Thanks Bob, I'm taking it in a tincture. On 5/23/06, Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist <boblindeherbalist wrote: > > depends on why you are taking milk thistle and in what form you are > taking it.... > Bob > www.acuherbals.com > > Stan <sgkatz wrote: > Have been taking Milk Thistle for about a month. > Should a stop for awhile and resume later. > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 why are you taking it...if you have liver damage, such as hep c you would want to continue to take it....personally I would recommend it in a capsule for that. If you are just going on the concept of cleaning the liver out from life I would stop. With tinctures be sure they are from a good company run by a good herbalist. Some herbs are extracted with acetone because it works better and cheaper than alcohol. I would recommend Starwest or David Winstons product (eclectics or alchemists or somesuch??) or always best actual milk thistle seeds in a pepper grinder.... Bob www.acuherbals.com Stanley Katz <sgkatz wrote: Thanks Bob, I'm taking it in a tincture. On 5/23/06, Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist <boblindeherbalist wrote: > > depends on why you are taking milk thistle and in what form you are > taking it.... > Bob > www.acuherbals.com > > Stan <sgkatz wrote: > Have been taking Milk Thistle for about a month. > Should a stop for awhile and resume later. > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Most people with hep c take milthistle usually the standardised form in tablets/capsules,if one has liver problems/ issues best not use alcohol tinctures for obvious reasons. People with chronic hep c usually take 1200mgs daily of milk thistle in 3 doses. best wishes from Rob Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " <boblindeherbalist wrote: > > why are you taking it...if you have liver damage, such as hep c you would want to continue to take it....personally I would recommend it in a capsule for that. If you are just going on the concept of cleaning the liver out from life I would stop. With tinctures be sure they are from a good company run by a good herbalist. Some herbs are extracted with acetone because it works better and cheaper than alcohol. I would recommend Starwest or David Winstons product (eclectics or alchemists or somesuch??) or always best actual milk thistle seeds in a pepper grinder.... > Bob > www.acuherbals.com > Stanley Katz <sgkatz wrote: > Thanks Bob, I'm taking it in a tincture. > > On 5/23/06, Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist <boblindeherbalist wrote: > > > > depends on why you are taking milk thistle and in what form you are > > taking it.... > > Bob > > www.acuherbals.com > > > > Stan <sgkatz wrote: > > Have been taking Milk Thistle for about a month. > > Should a stop for awhile and resume later. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 I am taking it as advice from a longevity expert, to keep my liver clean. Is it necessary or not. I do not have liver disease. My original question as to how I should take it still has not been answered. Should I take it for a month and then off for a week? Thanks so much for everyone's help. Stan On 5/23/06, Rob <emeerob wrote: > > Most people with hep c take milthistle > usually the standardised form in tablets/capsules,if one has liver > problems/ issues best not use alcohol tinctures for obvious reasons. > People with chronic hep c usually take 1200mgs daily of milk thistle > in 3 doses. > best wishes from Rob > > > > Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " > > <boblindeherbalist wrote: > > > > why are you taking it...if you have liver damage, such as hep c you > would want to continue to take it....personally I would recommend it > in a capsule for that. If you are just going on the concept of > cleaning the liver out from life I would stop. With tinctures be sure > they are from a good company run by a good herbalist. Some herbs are > extracted with acetone because it works better and cheaper than > alcohol. I would recommend Starwest or David Winstons product > (eclectics or alchemists or somesuch??) or always best actual milk > thistle seeds in a pepper grinder.... > > Bob > > www.acuherbals.com > > Stanley Katz <sgkatz wrote: > > Thanks Bob, I'm taking it in a tincture. > > > > On 5/23/06, Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist <boblindeherbalist wrote: > > > > > > depends on why you are taking milk thistle and in what form you are > > > taking it.... > > > Bob > > > www.acuherbals.com > > > > > > Stan <sgkatz wrote: > > > Have been taking Milk Thistle for about a month. > > > Should a stop for awhile and resume later. > > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post message: Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > Subscribe: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > > > Un: Chinese Traditional Medicine- > > > List owner: Chinese Traditional Medicine-owner > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > /community/Chinese Traditional Medicine > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2006 Report Share Posted May 24, 2006 Chinese Traditional Medicine , " Stanley Katz " <sgkatz wrote: > > I am taking it as advice from a longevity expert, to keep my liver clean. > Is it necessary or not. > I do not have liver disease. > My original question as to how I should take it still has not been answered. > Should I take it for a month and then off for a week? I'm unfamiliar with milk thistle taken for longevity. In TCM, one of the key things that is looked at for longevity is the Kidneys. (A reminder that TCM Organs are not equivalent to anatomical organs and are collections of functions. The TCM Kidneys also include many of the functions of the adrenal glands.) The Spleen also is very important. Personally, I would not take any non-food herb for an extended period - even on an on-again-off-again schedule - unless there was a specific need for it. The food herbs are the safer herbs. The herbs that can be used frequently by most people. (Even with the food herbs there are contraindications.) Herbs like basil, oregeno, sage, ginger. Milk thistle is more a medicinal herb. I could not find milk thistle, aka Silybum Marianum, in any of the Materia Medica (list of healing substances used in Chinese medicine), including the Bensky & Gamble Materia Medical. There are some ideas on the TCM properties of milk thistle, but I want to caution readers that until milk thistle is carefully studied by hundreds of observers over a period of years, even decades in some cses, these are preliminary observations. (The perception of an herb's TCM properties can vary according to the health of the observer.) Some of the preliminary observations are that it has cool thermal energy (has a cooling effect), and enters the Liver and possibly the Kidneys. (TCM recognizes that herbs have an affinity for different Organs and Meridians. Its effects will be particularly marked upon certain Organs/ meridians.) It may have application in treating Damp Heat. There are concerns about using the herb if a person has large gall stones. Milk thistle increases the flow of bile. If stones are too large, they can become blocked in the gall duct, creating some problems. There are some other contraindications, one being with using herb with HIV clients. This doesn't mean that the herb absolutely can't be used with HIV clients, only that herbalists, allopathic doctors, and others need to be aware of a certain property of the herb when devising an overall treatment plan. Even though milk thistle aids the liver in detoxing quite a few substances, there are some substances that can build up as a result of milk thistle decreasing a particular enzyme. Here is some of the info: http://www.skyeherbals.com/forum/index.php/topic,20.0.html Researchers at the University of Pittsburgh have suspected that milk thistle can slow down or reduce the activity of enzymes in the liver. What does this have to do with HIV? you might ask. Well, enzymes in the liver break down many of the substances that we eat and drink, including medications. If the activity of these enzymes are reduced, then drugs remain in the blood longer than they otherwise might. This could lead to having higher-than-expected levels of drugs in the body, causing side effects or intensifying already-existing side effects. Indeed, in recent experiments using milk thistle and human liver cells, the researchers found that relatively small concentrations of milk thistle did significantly slow down the activity of the liver enzyme CYP3A4 by 50% to 100%. Many medications taken by people with HIV/AIDS (PHAs) — such as protease inhibitors and non-nukes — are processed by this liver enzyme. If milk thistle is taken by someone using protease inhibitors or non-nukes, it has the potential to raise levels of these drugs, causing unpleasant or even dangerous side effects. Below is a short list of some other medications that are processed through the CYP3A4 enzyme. Levels of these medications may increase if taken by people who are also using milk thistle. This list is not exhaustive: methadone heart drugs – Tambocor (flecainide), Rythmol (propafenone) antibiotics – erythromycin, rifampin anti-seizure drugs – carbamazepine (Tegretol) antidepressants – St. John's wort, Zyban/Wellbutrin (bupropion), Paxil (paroxetine), Prozac (fluoxetine), Luvox (fluvoxetine) Serzone (nefazodone), Zoloft (sertraline), Effexor (venlafaxine) antihistamines – Hismanal (astemizole), Seldane (terfenadine) antifungals – itraconazole (Sporanox), Ketoconazole (Nizoral) gastrointestinal motility agents – Prepulsid (Cisapride) ergot drugs – Ergonovine, Ergomar (ergotamine) anti-psychotics – Clozaril (clozapine), Orap (pimozide) sedatives/sleeping pills – Ambien (zolpidem), Halcion (triazolam), Versed (midazolam) lipid-lowering drugs (statins) – Lescol (fluvastatin), Mevacor (lovastatin), Pravachol (pravastatin) and Zocor (simvastatin), Baycol (cerivastatin) transplant drugs – cyclosporine (Neoral, Sandimmune), ProGraf (tacrolimus) Milk thistle also has the potential to lower levels of the following drugs: anti-parasite drugs – Mepron (atovaquone) sedatives/sleeping pills – Ativan (lorazepam) hormones – estrogen (End of quoted material.) Herbalists, please note the inclusion of St. Johns Wort in the list. You may also want to Google for Michael Moore and his website to see what he has on milk thistle. (Not the movie producer Michael Moore but the herbalist.) Ta'i Chi or Qi Gong exercises are some of the safest and most effective things one can do for improving and maintaining one's overall health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 " Stanley Katz " sgkatz wrote: > I am taking it as advice from a longevity expert, to keep my liver > clean. > Is it necessary or not. > I do not have liver disease. > My original question as to how I should take it still has not been > answered. > Should I take it for a month and then off for a week? > Thanks so much for everyone's help. > Stan Well yes, it was answered here: " Bob Linde,AP, Herbalist " boblindeherbalist wrote: > why are you taking it...if you have liver damage, such as hep c you > would want to continue to take it....personally I would recommend > it in a capsule for that. If you are just going on the concept of > cleaning the liver out from life I would stop. " It's not something you'd take continually if you don't have liver disease, and a week off every month doesn't count. Perhaps take it for a month 3 or 4 times a year. sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2006 Report Share Posted October 5, 2006 , " yentrouc829 " <yentrouc829 wrote: > > I have been diagnosed with Hepatitis C a few years ago. I have been > taking 2 175mg of milk thistle daily. I'm not on any other treatment > due to insurance costs. Does anyone have any positive input about the > benefits of milk thistle? > Sincerely,cjb > I think you should go and see this healer Joao de Deus... May be he could help you with your hepatis C..He is a very good healer...Just give it a try....www.friendsofthecasa.org See you....Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 Hi, I was diagnosed with Hep C about 6 years ago. Since then I have religiously taken 6 capsules in the morning and 8 at night. I have found this to be of tremendous benefit in additiona to eating correctly and exercising on a regular basis. I can't tell you to take it I can just share my experiance with it. If I don't take it I get tired and sick feeling. I hope this helps, Good Luck, , " pat_puma007 " <pat_puma007 wrote: > > , " yentrouc829 " > <yentrouc829@> wrote: > > > > I have been diagnosed with Hepatitis C a few years ago. I have been > > taking 2 175mg of milk thistle daily. I'm not on any other treatment > > due to insurance costs. Does anyone have any positive input about the > > benefits of milk thistle? > > Sincerely,cjb > > > > > I think you should go and see this healer Joao de Deus... May be he > could help you with your hepatis C..He is a very good healer...Just > give it a try....www.friendsofthecasa.org > > See you....Take care > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Hi Matt, Hey thanks for your response.I reallly do try to watch what I eat.But excersize in not in my schedule..But I agree, if I don't take the milk thistle for a day or so I just get so lethargic. I have increased my dosage of 2- 175 mg in the morning to also the 2 of them at night... Just out of curiosity, are you under a physican's care. I don't have any health insurance so it's up to me to treat it on my own.I try to do and learn the best I can. Again, thanks, courtney Matt <mjbrecording0011 wrote: Hi, I was diagnosed with Hep C about 6 years ago. Since then I have religiously taken 6 capsules in the morning and 8 at night. I have found this to be of tremendous benefit in additiona to eating correctly and exercising on a regular basis. I can't tell you to take it I can just share my experiance with it. If I don't take it I get tired and sick feeling. I hope this helps, Good Luck, , " pat_puma007 " <pat_puma007 wrote: > > , " yentrouc829 " > <yentrouc829@> wrote: > > > > I have been diagnosed with Hepatitis C a few years ago. I have been > > taking 2 175mg of milk thistle daily. I'm not on any other treatment > > due to insurance costs. Does anyone have any positive input about the > > benefits of milk thistle? > > Sincerely,cjb > > > > > I think you should go and see this healer Joao de Deus... May be he > could help you with your hepatis C..He is a very good healer...Just > give it a try....www.friendsofthecasa.org > > See you....Take care > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Dear Frank: Bless you for all the work you have done! I just wanted to thank you for everything, all the amazing stuff you have done over the years. I for one have learned a lot from you (and others). Sorry you are sick still. I can so relate. Anyway, you are in my prayers. I don't know that I have the expertise that many others have or knowledge about the vast amount of information on alternative medicine, so I probably would not make a very good substitute for what you have done. I can contribute where I have some knowledge and like you, I've done a ton of stuff in 20 years of illness. Thank you again. Linda Goldstein Thank you for your kind words...Frank -------------- Original message ---------------------- " califpacific " <califpacific > http://www.liversupport.com/info4.htm > > The Encyclopedia of Popular Herbs > > Milk Thistle > > > Excerpt > > The following information on Milk Thistle is from The Encyclopedia of > Popular Herbs, Your Complete Guide to the Leading Medicinal Plants. > The book was published by Prima Health (Copyright 2000). The authors > are Robert S. McCaleb, Evelyn Leigh, and Krista Morien. > > Dr. Andrew Weil says of the book, " Both practitioners and patients > will find this guide to popular herbal remedies useful. It is > authoritative and readable. " Christopher Hobbs, L.Ac, and renowned > herbalist and author says, " Of all the many recent books on herbal > medicine, The Encyclopedia of Popular Herbs stands out as the one that > is the best blend of evidence-based, rigorously researched herbal > medicine, along with specific and practical guidelines for 21st > century home health care. " > > > Milk Thistle > Silybum Marianum Asteracae > PART USED: Seed > PRIMARY USES > Liver health > Protection against harmful chemicals, drugs, and pollution > Digestive aid > Acute and chronic hepatitis > Alcoholic and other liver damage > Gallbladder symptoms > > Prickly thistles may not be as " approachable " as softer plants, but > appearances can be deceiving. Not only does this group of plants > contain no poisonous members, but many thistles have the ability to > protect our livers against harmful substances, including poisons > present in our daily environment. > > The thistle that stands out most in this regard is Milk Thistle. This > remarkable plant has earned a worldwide reputation as an antioxidant > and liver protectant that can even help repair and regenerate injured > liver cells. > > As the word liver suggests, maintaining the health of this essential > organ is key to the overall quality of life. The liver, the body's > second largest organ, processes nutrients, drugs, toxins, and any > other substance entering the body through the intestines, lungs, or > skin. Savvy Europeans have long recognized this, taking Milk Thistle > extract as a daily form of health insurance against pollution, > over-the-counter drugs such as acetaminophen, and even the > self-inflicted damage of overindulgence in rich foods and alcohol. In > Germany, Milk Thistle extracts accounted for over $180 million in herb > product sales during 1998. > > Health practitioners also prescribe Milk Thistle to treat a variety of > problems you might not normally connect with liver health, including > poor digestion, female hormonal problems, constipation, mood > disorders, hemorrhoids, varicose veins, atherosclerosis (hardening and > narrowing of the arteries), and skin conditions such as psoriasis and > acne. Today, regular use of Milk Thistle extract can be considered a > modern necessity every bit as important as a healthful diet, exercise, > rest, and the most common vitamin supplements. > > Top > > HISTORY > > Milk thistle has been used to support liver health for more than 2,000 > years. As early as A.D. 23, Pliny the Elder recommended a mixture of > Milk Thistle juice and honey for improving digestion by stimulating > the flow of bile. During the sixteenth century, the British herbalist > Gerard called Milk Thistle " the best remedy that grows against all > melancholy diseases. " Melancholy (what we might call depression today) > gets its name from the Greek words for " black bile " and was > historically treated with liver herbs as well as mood-enhancing > plants. During the seventeenth century, British herbalist Nicholas > Culpeper prescribed Milk Thistle seeds for jaundice (yellow > discoloration of tissues due to excessive amounts of bile), > gallstones, and obstructions of the liver and spleen. > > Milk thistle became popular in American medicine around the turn of > the twentieth century, when the Eclectic physicians (a prominent group > of American doctors who practiced at that time) adopted it as a > treatment for varicose veins, menstrual problems, and liver and kidney > ailments. The plant gradually fell out of favor later in the > century—except in Germany, where herbs have always enjoyed widespread > acceptance. During the 1970s and 1980s, German scientists began > testing the plant to validate its many centuries of application as a > liver herb. Today, Milk Thistle is a popular treatment in Germany for > many liver problems, including hepatitis and cirrhosis. Intravenous > silymarin (a complex of important Milk Thistle constituents) is also a > life-saving emergency room treatment used throughout Europe in cases > of poisoning. > > Like its cousin the globe artichoke (Cynara scolymus), Milk Thistle > has a long history as a delicious and nutritious food. When boiled, > young Milk Thistle flowerheads look and taste much like a savory > artichoke. All parts of the plant are edible, including the roots and > young stalks and leaves. To incorporate the benefits of Milk Thistle > seeds into your daily diet, herbalist Christopher Hobbs suggests > making a seasoning salt by soaking Milk Thistle seeds overnight, > draining the water, grinding the seeds into a powder using a coffee > grinder, lightly toasting them in the oven, and then mixing them with > salt or other spices.1 Milk thistle seeds are high in protein and the > essential fatty acid linoleic acid, a healthy fat that can help reduce > chronic inflammation, balance the female menstrual cycle, and improve > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Hi, My Name is Jim Clark and I have a question for you maybe you can reply to? I was told that the mandrian orange has facinating rebuilding propeties for a hepititus damaged liver. Have you heard or received any results proving this? I am forced to use western and eastern medicines myself. Milk thistle is one of many i use, Having hepititus burning in my liver for over 35 years. I have just found this out and the damage done is massive and is going to require a full transplant. I have changed my diet and started all the possible ways to prolong this event. Thank you for your time, Jim califpacific <califpacific wrote: http://www.liversupport.com/info4.htm The Encyclopedia of Popular Herbs Milk Thistle Excerpt The following information on Milk Thistle is from The Encyclopedia of Popular Herbs, Your Complete Guide to the Leading Medicinal Plants. The book was published by Prima Health (Copyright 2000). The authors are Robert S. McCaleb, Evelyn Leigh, and Krista Morien. Dr. Andrew Weil says of the book, " Both practitioners and patients will find this guide to popular herbal remedies useful. It is authoritative and readable. " Christopher Hobbs, L.Ac, and renowned herbalist and author says, " Of all the many recent books on herbal medicine, The Encyclopedia of Popular Herbs stands out as the one that is the best blend of evidence-based, rigorously researched herbal medicine, along with specific and practical guidelines for 21st century home health care. " Milk Thistle Silybum Marianum Asteracae PART USED: Seed PRIMARY USES Liver health Protection against harmful chemicals, drugs, and pollution Digestive aid Acute and chronic hepatitis Alcoholic and other liver damage Gallbladder symptoms Prickly thistles may not be as " approachable " as softer plants, but appearances can be deceiving. Not only does this group of plants contain no poisonous members, but many thistles have the ability to protect our livers against harmful substances, including poisons present in our daily environment. The thistle that stands out most in this regard is Milk Thistle. This remarkable plant has earned a worldwide reputation as an antioxidant and liver protectant that can even help repair and regenerate injured liver cells. As the word liver suggests, maintaining the health of this essential organ is key to the overall quality of life. The liver, the body's second largest organ, processes nutrients, drugs, toxins, and any other substance entering the body through the intestines, lungs, or skin. Savvy Europeans have long recognized this, taking Milk Thistle extract as a daily form of health insurance against pollution, over-the-counter drugs such as acetaminophen, and even the self-inflicted damage of overindulgence in rich foods and alcohol. In Germany, Milk Thistle extracts accounted for over $180 million in herb product sales during 1998. Health practitioners also prescribe Milk Thistle to treat a variety of problems you might not normally connect with liver health, including poor digestion, female hormonal problems, constipation, mood disorders, hemorrhoids, varicose veins, atherosclerosis (hardening and narrowing of the arteries), and skin conditions such as psoriasis and acne. Today, regular use of Milk Thistle extract can be considered a modern necessity every bit as important as a healthful diet, exercise, rest, and the most common vitamin supplements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Hi, I am new. I have heard of some people using SAMe combined with Milk Thistle and B vits for liver repair. May be something to research. ~Tara Maverick & E_Beth <maverickjaz wrote: Hi, My Name is Jim Clark and I have a question for you maybe you can reply to? I was told that the mandrian orange has facinating rebuilding propeties for a hepititus damaged liver. Have you heard or received any results proving this? I am forced to use western and eastern medicines myself. Milk thistle is one of many i use, Having hepititus burning in my liver for over 35 years. I have just found this out and the damage done is massive and is going to require a full transplant. I have changed my diet and started all the possible ways to prolong this event. Thank you for your time, Jim califpacific <califpacific wrote: http://www.liversupport.com/info4.htm The Encyclopedia of Popular Herbs Milk Thistle Excerpt The following information on Milk Thistle is from The Encyclopedia of Popular Herbs, Your Complete Guide to the Leading Medicinal Plants. The book was published by Prima Health (Copyright 2000). The authors are Robert S. McCaleb, Evelyn Leigh, and Krista Morien. Dr. Andrew Weil says of the book, " Both practitioners and patients will find this guide to popular herbal remedies useful. It is authoritative and readable. " Christopher Hobbs, L.Ac, and renowned herbalist and author says, " Of all the many recent books on herbal medicine, The Encyclopedia of Popular Herbs stands out as the one that is the best blend of evidence-based, rigorously researched herbal medicine, along with specific and practical guidelines for 21st century home health care. " Milk Thistle Silybum Marianum Asteracae PART USED: Seed PRIMARY USES Liver health Protection against harmful chemicals, drugs, and pollution Digestive aid Acute and chronic hepatitis Alcoholic and other liver damage Gallbladder symptoms Prickly thistles may not be as " approachable " as softer plants, but appearances can be deceiving. Not only does this group of plants contain no poisonous members, but many thistles have the ability to protect our livers against harmful substances, including poisons present in our daily environment. The thistle that stands out most in this regard is Milk Thistle. This remarkable plant has earned a worldwide reputation as an antioxidant and liver protectant that can even help repair and regenerate injured liver cells. As the word liver suggests, maintaining the health of this essential organ is key to the overall quality of life. The liver, the body's second largest organ, processes nutrients, drugs, toxins, and any other substance entering the body through the intestines, lungs, or skin. Savvy Europeans have long recognized this, taking Milk Thistle extract as a daily form of health insurance against pollution, over-the-counter drugs such as acetaminophen, and even the self-inflicted damage of overindulgence in rich foods and alcohol. In Germany, Milk Thistle extracts accounted for over $180 million in herb product sales during 1998. Health practitioners also prescribe Milk Thistle to treat a variety of problems you might not normally connect with liver health, including poor digestion, female hormonal problems, constipation, mood disorders, hemorrhoids, varicose veins, atherosclerosis (hardening and narrowing of the arteries), and skin conditions such as psoriasis and acne. Today, regular use of Milk Thistle extract can be considered a modern necessity every bit as important as a healthful diet, exercise, rest, and the most common vitamin supplements. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 , Maverick & E_Beth <maverickjaz wrote: > > Hi, > My Name is Jim Clark and I have a question for you maybe you can reply to? I was told that the mandrian orange has facinating rebuilding propeties for a hepititus damaged liver. Have you heard or received any results proving this? I am forced to use western and eastern medicines myself. Milk thistle is one of many i use, Having hepititus burning in my liver for over 35 years. I have just found this out and the damage done is massive and is going to require a full transplant. I have changed my diet and started all the possible ways to prolong this event. > Thank you for your time, > Jim > > califpacific <califpacific wrote: > http://www.liversupport.com/info4.htm > > The Encyclopedia of Popular Herbs > Milk Thistle Hi Jim! According to a reference book entitled, " The Pill Bood Guide to Natural Medicines " , by Michael T. Murray,N.D., the proper diet for hepatitis should be extremely low in saturated fats, simple carbs. white sugar,white flour,fruit juice, honey, HFCS, etc.) oxidized fatty acids (fried foods), and low in animal proteins as well. He goes on to say that this type of protocol is necessary in order to aid the liver's detoxification mechanisms. The diet which places focus on organic plant foods has shown to increase the elimination of bile acids, drugs and toxic bile substances from the system.In addition to this, other supplements high on the list for hepatitis include: Reishi (Ganoderma lucidumi) Liver extracts Thymus extracts Lemon Balm (Melissa Officinalis) Licorice (Glycyrrhiza glabra) Shizandra Vitamin C Milk Thistle Cranberry and artichoke are also rated highest in ability to help the liver detoxify. Best Regards, JoAnn . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 From another Jim Clark: You should read Dr. Max Gerson's book. His protocol was a result of his experience with liver disease. http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm?qwork=909947 & wauth=Max%20Gerson & matches\ =32 & qsort=r & cm_re=works*listing*cover <http://www.alibris.com/search/search.cfm?qwork=909947 & wauth=Max%20Gerson & matche\ s=32 & qsort=r & cm_re=works*listing*cover> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 My previous dog had pervasive liver cysts and I was told to prepare for his death or prepare to euthanize him as most dogs never survive this. Milk Thistle was one of the treatments I used and he lived over a year to a ripe old age of 17. After a few months of caring for him and treating him the vet was amazed that his liver enzymes had been cut in half. Richard Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth. ---Pema Chödrön Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 digestive enzmes or black walnut hull will also kill parasites. This works for pets and humans. medusa NR wrote: > My previous dog had pervasive liver cysts and I was told to prepare for his death or prepare to euthanize him as most dogs never survive this. Milk Thistle was one of the treatments I used and he lived over a year to a ripe old age of 17. After a few months of caring for him and treating him the vet was amazed that his liver enzymes had been cut in half. > > Richard > > Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth. > > ---Pema Chödrön > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 that's a fabulous testimonial; where these Milk Thistle Extracts or the Milk Thistle powdered herb ? this is very good info to know; thx.- -- In , " RNR " <rnr4biz wrote: > > My previous dog had pervasive liver cysts and I was told to prepare for his death or prepare to euthanize him as most dogs never survive this. Milk Thistle was one of the treatments I used and he lived over a year to a ripe old age of 17. After a few months of caring for him and treating him the vet was amazed that his liver enzymes had been cut in half. > > Richard > > Fear is a natural reaction to moving closer to the truth. > > ---Pema Chödrön > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Fights diabetes/boosts heart health, treats rosacea, reduces iron excess .. . . [ahha.org] FEATURED RESEARCH With the huge number of people dealing with diabetes, the odds are that each of you knows people who are dealing with the challenges of this condition. You might wish to encourage them to review the research presented in the article " How You Can Benefit From the Three Things I Never Knew About Milk Thistle " http://ahha.org/MilkThistle.htm by Kerry Bone and discuss the information with their physicians. This article appeared in the January, 2009, issue of Dr. Jonathan V. Wright's Nutrition & Healing newsletter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I alerted my relatives to the side effect of milk thistle in lowering iron even if one's iron is normal. This is a very popular herb with my relatives. Thanks for posting. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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