Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

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Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

Perfect vision without glasses or contacts sounds wonderful. Before

considering having Lasik surgery, though, it would be wise to ask how

many people actually do have good results and how many will suffer bad

effects years after Lasik surgery...

http://www.naturalnews.com/023344.html

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I always wondered about this procedure and put the idea of doing it myself out of my head because I felt it could be dangerous. I wonder what the success rates are after using the Bates method or Jacob Liberman's method in Take Off Your Glasses and See.

 

Kelly

 

-------------- Original message -------------- robert-blau

 

Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending PainPerfect vision without glasses or contacts sounds wonderful. Beforeconsidering having Lasik surgery, though, it would be wise to ask howmany people actually do have good results and how many will suffer badeffects years after Lasik surgery...http://www.naturalnews.com/023344.html

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Mike,

 

That is impressive. I myself did try Jacob Libermans suggestions but found it a little frustrating. I wonder if I was just being impatient and maybe I should try again. I have heard of a rebounder being used for a variety of heath reasons. Is there a particular rebounder you would recommend?

 

Kelly

 

-------------- Original message -------------- Mike Golden <goldenmike86

 

 

 

Kelly,I improved my myopia slightly years ago dabbling with the Bates method for a few weeks. A similar improvement accidentally occurred last year when I was using a rebounder on a daily basis for 9 months as part of a fitness regimen. I went from seeing 20/40 with my glasses to seeing 20/20 with them. The entire time I was using the rebounder I never thought about my vision at all, although I had read about its use in visual therapy.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soup Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 4:47:02 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

I always wondered about this procedure and put the idea of doing it myself out of my head because I felt it could be dangerous. I wonder what the success rates are after using the Bates method or Jacob Liberman's method in Take Off Your Glasses and See.

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- robert-blau@ webtv.net

 

Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending PainPerfect vision without glasses or contacts sounds wonderful. Beforeconsidering having Lasik surgery, though, it would be wise to ask howmany people actually do have good results and how many will suffer badeffects years after Lasik surgery...http://www.naturaln ews.com/023344. html

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I have been reading about all the great benefits of rebounding and plan to order one and give it a try. I especially like the idea of helping to move my lymph system. Thanks Mike.

 

kelly

 

-------------- Original message -------------- Mike Golden <goldenmike86

 

 

 

There are a number of good ones out there for just under 300 dollars. I, myself, am a cheapskate, so I bought two 30 dollar ones years ago and taped the top from one onto the top of the other. I stuck a piece of foam between the two surfaces, thus creating something that would stand up to my 220 pounds and not cost an "arm and a leg". I go for months without having to replace a spring.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soup Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 5:47:12 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

Mike,

 

That is impressive. I myself did try Jacob Libermans suggestions but found it a little frustrating. I wonder if I was just being impatient and maybe I should try again. I have heard of a rebounder being used for a variety of heath reasons. Is there a particular rebounder you would recommend?

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >

 

 

 

Kelly,I improved my myopia slightly years ago dabbling with the Bates method for a few weeks. A similar improvement accidentally occurred last year when I was using a rebounder on a daily basis for 9 months as part of a fitness regimen. I went from seeing 20/40 with my glasses to seeing 20/20 with them. The entire time I was using the rebounder I never thought about my vision at all, although I had read about its use in visual therapy.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 4:47:02 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

I always wondered about this procedure and put the idea of doing it myself out of my head because I felt it could be dangerous. I wonder what the success rates are after using the Bates method or Jacob Liberman's method in Take Off Your Glasses and See.

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- robert-blau@ webtv.net

 

Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending PainPerfect vision without glasses or contacts sounds wonderful. Beforeconsidering having Lasik surgery, though, it would be wise to ask howmany people actually do have good results and how many will suffer badeffects years after Lasik surgery...http://www.naturaln ews.com/023344. html

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I bought a used one. 48 heavy springs, no oxidisation, for $70. 5 adults use it ranging in weight fron 62 - 100kgs. Never replaced a spring and it has almost caily use 15 mth old grandson's favourite game - being held by Grandma while she's rebounding. His laughter is better than any medicine! Grandma's face aches with laughter.

 

2nd favourite game is sitting in Grandma's wheeled office chair while his Daddy pushes it round and round the dining table, chasing Grandma. No, sorry, Grandma won't allow cameras! )

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"mkasj" <mkasjoleander soup Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 12:27:13 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

I have been reading about all the great benefits of rebounding and plan to order one and give it a try. I especially like the idea of helping to move my lymph system. Thanks Mike.

 

kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >

 

 

 

There are a number of good ones out there for just under 300 dollars. I, myself, am a cheapskate, so I bought two 30 dollar ones years ago and taped the top from one onto the top of the other. I stuck a piece of foam between the two surfaces, thus creating something that would stand up to my 220 pounds and not cost an "arm and a leg". I go for months without having to replace a spring.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 5:47:12 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

Mike,

 

That is impressive. I myself did try Jacob Libermans suggestions but found it a little frustrating. I wonder if I was just being impatient and maybe I should try again. I have heard of a rebounder being used for a variety of heath reasons. Is there a particular rebounder you would recommend?

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >

 

 

 

Kelly,I improved my myopia slightly years ago dabbling with the Bates method for a few weeks. A similar improvement accidentally occurred last year when I was using a rebounder on a daily basis for 9 months as part of a fitness regimen. I went from seeing 20/40 with my glasses to seeing 20/20 with them. The entire time I was using the rebounder I never thought about my vision at all, although I had read about its use in visual therapy.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 4:47:02 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

I always wondered about this procedure and put the idea of doing it myself out of my head because I felt it could be dangerous. I wonder what the success rates are after using the Bates method or Jacob Liberman's method in Take Off Your Glasses and See.

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- robert-blau@ webtv.net

 

Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending PainPerfect vision without glasses or contacts sounds wonderful. Beforeconsidering having Lasik surgery, though, it would be wise to ask howmany people actually do have good results and how many will suffer badeffects years after Lasik surgery...http://www.naturaln ews.com/023344. html

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Haha! Spelling of "daily" shows my sight hasn't improved yet!

Blindly,

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Maracuja <howdurdagooleander soup Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 12:51:47 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

 

 

I bought a used one. 48 heavy springs, no oxidisation, for $70. 5 adults use it ranging in weight fron 62 - 100kgs. Never replaced a spring and it has almost caily use 15 mth old grandson's favourite game - being held by Grandma while she's rebounding. His laughter is better than any medicine! Grandma's face aches with laughter.

 

2nd favourite game is sitting in Grandma's wheeled office chair while his Daddy pushes it round and round the dining table, chasing Grandma. No, sorry, Grandma won't allow cameras! )

Maracuja Join the Blue Ribbon Online Free Speech Campaign!

 

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupFriday, June 6, 2008 12:27:13 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

I have been reading about all the great benefits of rebounding and plan to order one and give it a try. I especially like the idea of helping to move my lymph system. Thanks Mike.

 

kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >

 

 

 

There are a number of good ones out there for just under 300 dollars. I, myself, am a cheapskate, so I bought two 30 dollar ones years ago and taped the top from one onto the top of the other. I stuck a piece of foam between the two surfaces, thus creating something that would stand up to my 220 pounds and not cost an "arm and a leg". I go for months without having to replace a spring.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 5:47:12 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

Mike,

 

That is impressive. I myself did try Jacob Libermans suggestions but found it a little frustrating. I wonder if I was just being impatient and maybe I should try again. I have heard of a rebounder being used for a variety of heath reasons. Is there a particular rebounder you would recommend?

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >

 

 

 

Kelly,I improved my myopia slightly years ago dabbling with the Bates method for a few weeks. A similar improvement accidentally occurred last year when I was using a rebounder on a daily basis for 9 months as part of a fitness regimen. I went from seeing 20/40 with my glasses to seeing 20/20 with them. The entire time I was using the rebounder I never thought about my vision at all, although I had read about its use in visual therapy.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 4:47:02 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

I always wondered about this procedure and put the idea of doing it myself out of my head because I felt it could be dangerous. I wonder what the success rates are after using the Bates method or Jacob Liberman's method in Take Off Your Glasses and See.

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- robert-blau@ webtv.net

 

Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending PainPerfect vision without glasses or contacts sounds wonderful. Beforeconsidering having Lasik surgery, though, it would be wise to ask howmany people actually do have good results and how many will suffer badeffects years after Lasik surgery...http://www.naturaln ews.com/023344. html

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Mike

shoulnd a troumboline do the same thing? i bought a mini one witch i use, you think that will improuved my eye side?

regards Mary

 

-

Mike Golden

oleander soup

Friday, June 06, 2008 9:10 AM

Re: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

 

 

There are a number of good ones out there for just under 300 dollars. I, myself, am a cheapskate, so I bought two 30 dollar ones years ago and taped the top from one onto the top of the other. I stuck a piece of foam between the two surfaces, thus creating something that would stand up to my 220 pounds and not cost an "arm and a leg". I go for months without having to replace a spring.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soup Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 5:47:12 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

Mike,

 

That is impressive. I myself did try Jacob Libermans suggestions but found it a little frustrating. I wonder if I was just being impatient and maybe I should try again. I have heard of a rebounder being used for a variety of heath reasons. Is there a particular rebounder you would recommend?

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >

 

 

 

Kelly,I improved my myopia slightly years ago dabbling with the Bates method for a few weeks. A similar improvement accidentally occurred last year when I was using a rebounder on a daily basis for 9 months as part of a fitness regimen. I went from seeing 20/40 with my glasses to seeing 20/20 with them. The entire time I was using the rebounder I never thought about my vision at all, although I had read about its use in visual therapy.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 4:47:02 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

I always wondered about this procedure and put the idea of doing it myself out of my head because I felt it could be dangerous. I wonder what the success rates are after using the Bates method or Jacob Liberman's method in Take Off Your Glasses and See.

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- robert-blau@ webtv.net

 

Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending PainPerfect vision without glasses or contacts sounds wonderful. Beforeconsidering having Lasik surgery, though, it would be wise to ask howmany people actually do have good results and how many will suffer badeffects years after Lasik surgery...http://www.naturaln ews.com/023344. html

[Guest guest]

Then Mike why you and other people called rebounder and mixed me up? i know about the lymphatic drainage, but i thought you or someone else also said, it inproved their vision.

p.s i bought my rebounder for $40 only

hugs Mary

 

-

Mike Golden

oleander soup

Friday, June 06, 2008 12:15 PM

Re: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

 

 

A mini-trampoline and a rebounder are the same thing. I can't guarantee that it will help your eyes. They are quite good for improving lymphatic drainage and are easy to use.Mike

Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>oleander soup Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 8:37:26 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

Mike

shoulnd a troumboline do the same thing? i bought a mini one witch i use, you think that will improuved my eye side?

regards Mary

 

-

Mike Golden

oleander soup

Friday, June 06, 2008 9:10 AM

Re: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

 

 

There are a number of good ones out there for just under 300 dollars. I, myself, am a cheapskate, so I bought two 30 dollar ones years ago and taped the top from one onto the top of the other. I stuck a piece of foam between the two surfaces, thus creating something that would stand up to my 220 pounds and not cost an "arm and a leg". I go for months without having to replace a spring.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 5:47:12 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

Mike,

 

That is impressive. I myself did try Jacob Libermans suggestions but found it a little frustrating. I wonder if I was just being impatient and maybe I should try again. I have heard of a rebounder being used for a variety of heath reasons. Is there a particular rebounder you would recommend?

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >

 

 

 

Kelly,I improved my myopia slightly years ago dabbling with the Bates method for a few weeks. A similar improvement accidentally occurred last year when I was using a rebounder on a daily basis for 9 months as part of a fitness regimen. I went from seeing 20/40 with my glasses to seeing 20/20 with them. The entire time I was using the rebounder I never thought about my vision at all, although I had read about its use in visual therapy.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 4:47:02 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

I always wondered about this procedure and put the idea of doing it myself out of my head because I felt it could be dangerous. I wonder what the success rates are after using the Bates method or Jacob Liberman's method in Take Off Your Glasses and See.

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- robert-blau@ webtv.net

 

Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending PainPerfect vision without glasses or contacts sounds wonderful. Beforeconsidering having Lasik surgery, though, it would be wise to ask howmany people actually do have good results and how many will suffer badeffects years after Lasik surgery...http://www.naturaln ews.com/023344. html

[Guest guest]

Yes, I said I inadvertently improved my vision using one. I was using the rebounder for fitness. My vision did improve. But, I also said that there is no way I could know if it would be helpful in your case. Maria Stathopoulos <mary1konoleander soup Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 9:53:13 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

Then Mike why you and other people called rebounder and mixed me up? i know about the lymphatic drainage, but i thought you or someone else also said, it inproved their vision.

p.s i bought my rebounder for $40 only

hugs Mary

 

-

Mike Golden

oleander soup

Friday, June 06, 2008 12:15 PM

Re: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

 

 

A mini-trampoline and a rebounder are the same thing. I can't guarantee that it will help your eyes. They are quite good for improving lymphatic drainage and are easy to use.Mike

Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 8:37:26 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

Mike

shoulnd a troumboline do the same thing? i bought a mini one witch i use, you think that will improuved my eye side?

regards Mary

 

-

Mike Golden

oleander soup

Friday, June 06, 2008 9:10 AM

Re: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

 

 

There are a number of good ones out there for just under 300 dollars. I, myself, am a cheapskate, so I bought two 30 dollar ones years ago and taped the top from one onto the top of the other. I stuck a piece of foam between the two surfaces, thus creating something that would stand up to my 220 pounds and not cost an "arm and a leg". I go for months without having to replace a spring.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 5:47:12 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

Mike,

 

That is impressive. I myself did try Jacob Libermans suggestions but found it a little frustrating. I wonder if I was just being impatient and maybe I should try again. I have heard of a rebounder being used for a variety of heath reasons. Is there a particular rebounder you would recommend?

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- Mike Golden <goldenmike86@ >

 

 

 

Kelly,I improved my myopia slightly years ago dabbling with the Bates method for a few weeks. A similar improvement accidentally occurred last year when I was using a rebounder on a daily basis for 9 months as part of a fitness regimen. I went from seeing 20/40 with my glasses to seeing 20/20 with them. The entire time I was using the rebounder I never thought about my vision at all, although I had read about its use in visual therapy.Mike

"mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net" <mkasj (AT) comcast (DOT) net>oleander soupThursday, June 5, 2008 4:47:02 PMRe: Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending Pain

 

 

I always wondered about this procedure and put the idea of doing it myself out of my head because I felt it could be dangerous. I wonder what the success rates are after using the Bates method or Jacob Liberman's method in Take Off Your Glasses and See.

 

Kelly

 

------------ -- Original message ------------ -- robert-blau@ webtv.net

 

Lasik Surgery Results in Worse Vision and Never-Ending PainPerfect vision without glasses or contacts sounds wonderful. Beforeconsidering having Lasik surgery, though, it would be wise to ask howmany people actually do have good results and how many will suffer badeffects years after Lasik surgery...http://www.naturaln ews.com/023344. html