prostate

[Guest guest]

I read somewhere recently that prostrate massage is

very healing... can't recall where I read it, maybe it

was here...

 

Deana

 

--- Fanbelt <fanbelt wrote:

> Go to file and look there they have a very good

> cure.

>

> molly.bigknife-antonio wrote:

>

> > A friend has been diagnosed with prostate problems

> - he didn't go

> > into detail. What do you all suggest for someone

> with a prostate

> > problems - pain after urination is one symptom

> > He also wrote before he knew there was a prostate

> problems...

> > " Other symptoms: My ribs feel like they are being

> > > " raked " from the inside out, my chest cavity

> feels

> > > tight or pressure,there's a throb of pain that

> goes

> > > down my inner thighs after walking or doing any

> lifting,

> > > my lower back goes out of line from time to

> time,

> > > there is a pain from time to time between my

> legs

> > > that has been with me for a few years now. Its

> not

> > > constant but, re-occurs periodically. When I

> got sick in Santa Fe,

> > the IHS folks tried

> > > various treatments on me and it wasn't until I

> returned

> > > home that I found a doctor that was able to

> treat me

> > > for the condition that I had. He said that my

> esophagus

> > > (spelling?) had a scar that prevented it from

> closing

> > > all of the way. That was why I was having these

> > > problems. It was allowing gas to reach into the

> chest

> > > cavity and causing discomfort. I don't remember

> what

> > > medication he put me on.

> > > One thing that I noticed since taking the

> traditional herbs

> > > were that the discharge of urine was different

> than before.

> > > Maybe the herbs are cleansing my system of the

> infection or

> > > whatever disease. "

> > He goes to the Indian Health Service for

> treatment, as well as

> > traditional elders. I don't know what herbs the

> elders have him on.

> > The first IHS doctor recently told him he only had

> gastritis! Give

> > me a break...I told him to go back and see someone

> else, demanding

> > that they run some tests. He did and then they

> discovered the

> > prostate problem. I think he listed the western

> meds he's been

> > placed on. I'll have to dig that up and will add

> that to my post

> > within the next couple of days. Thank you for any

> help or advice!!!

> >

> >

> >

> > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the

> following:

> > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

> before using any

> > natural remedy.

> > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

> your own physician

> > and to

> > prescribe for your own health.

> > We are not medical doctors although MDs are

> welcome to post here as

> > long as

> > they behave themselves.

> > Any opinions put forth by the list members are

> exactly that, and any

> > person

> > following the advice of anyone posting here does

> so at their own risk.

> > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting

> advice or products

> > from list members, you are agreeing to

> > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold

> the List Owner and

> > members free of any liability.

> >

> > Dr. Ian Shillington

> > Doctor of Naturopathy

> > Dr.IanShillington

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It is in the files about the massage and a butter to eat. Penny is the

Prostate Princess....She can tell you all about it!

 

God Bless,

Jamie

-

" Deana Latta-Poole " <mumofthree63

<herbal remedies >

Saturday, August 18, 2001 6:34 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Prostate

 

 

> I read somewhere recently that prostrate massage is

> very healing... can't recall where I read it, maybe it

> was here...

>

> Deana

>

> --- Fanbelt <fanbelt wrote:

> > Go to file and look there they have a very good

> > cure.

> >

> > molly.bigknife-antonio wrote:

> >

> > > A friend has been diagnosed with prostate problems

> > - he didn't go

> > > into detail. What do you all suggest for someone

> > with a prostate

> > > problems - pain after urination is one symptom

> > > He also wrote before he knew there was a prostate

> > problems...

> > > " Other symptoms: My ribs feel like they are being

> > > > " raked " from the inside out, my chest cavity

> > feels

> > > > tight or pressure,there's a throb of pain that

> > goes

> > > > down my inner thighs after walking or doing any

> > lifting,

> > > > my lower back goes out of line from time to

> > time,

> > > > there is a pain from time to time between my

> > legs

> > > > that has been with me for a few years now. Its

> > not

> > > > constant but, re-occurs periodically. When I

> > got sick in Santa Fe,

> > > the IHS folks tried

> > > > various treatments on me and it wasn't until I

> > returned

> > > > home that I found a doctor that was able to

> > treat me

> > > > for the condition that I had. He said that my

> > esophagus

> > > > (spelling?) had a scar that prevented it from

> > closing

> > > > all of the way. That was why I was having these

> > > > problems. It was allowing gas to reach into the

> > chest

> > > > cavity and causing discomfort. I don't remember

> > what

> > > > medication he put me on.

> > > > One thing that I noticed since taking the

> > traditional herbs

> > > > were that the discharge of urine was different

> > than before.

> > > > Maybe the herbs are cleansing my system of the

> > infection or

> > > > whatever disease. "

> > > He goes to the Indian Health Service for

> > treatment, as well as

> > > traditional elders. I don't know what herbs the

> > elders have him on.

> > > The first IHS doctor recently told him he only had

> > gastritis! Give

> > > me a break...I told him to go back and see someone

> > else, demanding

> > > that they run some tests. He did and then they

> > discovered the

> > > prostate problem. I think he listed the western

> > meds he's been

> > > placed on. I'll have to dig that up and will add

> > that to my post

> > > within the next couple of days. Thank you for any

> > help or advice!!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the

> > following:

> > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

> > before using any

> > > natural remedy.

> > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be

> > your own physician

> > > and to

> > > prescribe for your own health.

> > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are

> > welcome to post here as

> > > long as

> > > they behave themselves.

> > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are

> > exactly that, and any

> > > person

> > > following the advice of anyone posting here does

> > so at their own risk.

> > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting

> > advice or products

> > > from list members, you are agreeing to

> > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold

> > the List Owner and

> > > members free of any liability.

> > >

> > > Dr. Ian Shillington

> > > Doctor of Naturopathy

> > > Dr.IanShillington

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Penny...

 

Should the man lay on his side for this? I would think so but wonder what

your approach is.

 

Hope all is well with you.

 

God Bless,

Jamie

-

" Penny Khaled " <pennyclr75

<herbal remedies >

Saturday, August 18, 2001 4:57 PM

[herbal remedies] Prostate

 

 

> Dear Deana,

> PROSTRATE MASSAGE

> The prostrate sits about four or five inches in from the rectum. It can

> be felt from the wall of the colon .

> Dr Schultze mentions a case in England,

> " I got a very large prostrate gland since I was fifty or so. Every

> year, a doctor checks it and says its alright. But, this one particular

> time. the day before I was going to England, my urination stopped. My

> stomach filled out like a balloon and I was a mess.

> I went to my doctor and they were going to take me into the hospital

>

> and do a $4,000 operation on me. I said " Mister, nobody cuts into me,

> never, never, I will die first'.

> So he gave me a couple of pills that actually freed up the situation

>

> so that I could urinate. And he said to take one pill every day until I

> came back and then he would operate.

> When I was off the plane in England, I went to see one of what we

> call bone setters. I told him about Dr, Schultze's information and all

> the rest of it, and he said that's no problem. He said " Your American

> doctors know how to do prostrate manipulation, but they won't do it

> because it doesn't pay them "

> He worked on me for fifteen minutes and at the end of fifteen

> minutes, I was as right as rain.

> I came back to him and he also showed me how to do it myself if I

> ever got into trouble. He spent a bit of time with me and it cost me

> $15, which is not like $4,000 for someone to cut you apart.

> That is now a long time ago since I was done, and I have still been

> as right as rain. I have had two physical examination by a very, very

> good doctor over here and he said, " You have no swollen prostrate or

> anything like that. You have got no problem and you are not damaged. "

> That's me. I am 77 years of age and I'm very, very healthy. ... "

> HOW TO DO IT:-

> Dr. Schultze mentions " The doctor or nurse inserts a finger and

> massages the prostrate for ten to twenty minutes.

> It needs someone with long fingers to be able to reach the prostate.

>

> The doctor will be able to feel the swelling go down as the prostrate

> drains itself of its inflammation. Sometimes, all it takes is for this

> procedure to be done once and the swelling and symptoms are gone for

> good.

> Usually the swelling does not come back. One difficult case needed

> to have the prostrate massage three times and then the patient was O.K.

> Have your doctor use this method, and you may find, as others have,

> that poisonous, shiny black wastes come out of you - once they are

> liberated from the prostrate glands. I know that normal prostrate fluid

> is supposed to be clear. But I have been told that the material that

> comes out of the rectum in some men after doing this is black like coal.

>

> ....One man uses this method at least once a year...to make sure he will

>

> never die of prostate cancer like his father. Every year, his body

> eliminates the same black material........<snip>

> The only professional person, I have had discuss it with me is a

> Korean Urologist that they sent me to, and I mentioned it to him, and he

>

> said, " Oh sure, it is a common practice " ....<snip>

> Dr. Schultze gives many case histories but I thought you would be

> interested in this.

>

> The PROSTATE FORMULA

>

> Four parts Saw Palmetto Berry

> One part Cleaver's Herb

> One part Nettle Root (not the leaf)

> One part Thuja Leaf

>

> Mix all these herbs together as a tea. Soak them overnight and bring to

> the boil and simmer for 15 minutes (not more) Take six cups of tea per

> day.

> Add a couple of drops of the kidney/bladder tonic (see files)

>

> One could also make castor oil packs and place over the prostrate.

> And, of course, hot and cold showers to get circulation to the area.

>

> Exercise

> .....................Hope this explains my " anal

> fixation " ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Love Penny (still carefully manoeuvring her

> husband...)

>

>

>

>

> The Prosnut Butter is from Dr. James Duke;s book the Green Pharmacy.

> It is designed to reduce swelling of the prostrate.

> It can be taken with or without medications and is a natural

> solution to surgery..

> PROSNUT BUTTER

> 1/2 cup of fresh pumpkin seeds

> 1 saw palmetto capsule

> few drops of liquid licorice extract

> Brazil Nut oil.

> Put in blender till smooth. Put two tablespoons per day on a cracker

>

> ....................Love Penny

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jamie,

Whatever works..............Love Penny

[Guest guest]

LOL Boy does this brings interesting ideas in mind!

 

I suppose you could actually make it a little fun for the guy... He may want

it regularly!

 

Jamie

-

" Penny Khaled " <pennyclr75

<herbal remedies >

Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:11 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] Prostate

 

 

> Dear Jamie,

> Whatever works..............Love Penny

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 31/05/02 19:22:07 GMT Daylight Time, mortonmb

writes:

 

 

> Vitamin E identified as possible prostate cancer treatment

>

 

Thanks Morton, I knew I was doing something right for my hubby - he has Vit E

and Saw Palmetto every single day and has done so for the last 3 years -

prevention is definitely better than cure and every male over the age of 50

should ensure that they 'protect' their prostate as best they can.

 

Marianne

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Pure grape seed extract is great for ANY stage prostate, to include

cancer....equally healthy for a HEALTHY prostate! Kraig

 

 

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Green Tea Polyphenols may decrease the risk of developing prostate

cancer and may be useful therapeutically

 

 

In a study mice lacking immune system function were implanted

with androgen receptor positive human prostate cancer. They were then

given either Green Tea Polyphenols, Black Tea Extract, or EGCG (the

major constituent in Green Tea) or Theaflavins (the major constituent

in Black Tea). It was found that all four preparations significantly

inhibited the growth of prostate cancer tumors, significantly reduced

PSA levels, significantly improved the killing of prostate cancer

cells, significantly inhibited levels of Bcl-2 protein, a gene that

blocks the destruction of cancerous tumors, and significantly

improved levels of Bax protein, a gene that both inhibits Bcl-2 and

causes the destruction of cancerous tumor cells. The preparations

also inhibited VEGF levels, a protein that allows the spread of

prostate cancer.

 

It was also found that giving Green Tea Polyphenols to a mouse who

already had established prostate cancer caused significant tumor

regression. The study was performed at the University of Wisconsin-

Madison, and is published in the journal Carcinogenesis.

Jerome Mittelman, DDS, FAPM

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[Guest guest]

Recently posted at cancercured group. Thought the following might be of

interest here. Any comments? . . .

 

3a. Re: Prostate problems---www.lifeone.org - Thank you!   Posted by:

" breathedeepnow " aug20 breathedeepnow   Tue Oct 23,

2007 9:39 am ((PDT))

 

Hi, Cindy.

I took a quick look at www.lifeone.org and I LIKED what I saw! I

recommend members have a closer look, which I am also going to do!

Thanks for telling us about it!

Blessed wishes,

Elliot

 

cancercured , Xinyun Wang <wxinyun wrote:

A doctor who has been supervising cesium chloride treatment told me

that LifeOne (www.lifeone.org ) works better than cesium chloride for

prostate cancer. I browsed that site and did not see how many patients

survived. You may take a look.

Cindy

Messages in this topic (7)

____________

3b. Re: Prostate problems---www.lifeone.org - Thank you!   Posted by:

" Xinyun Wang " wxinyun newrooms2002   Tue Oct 23,

2007 10:29 am ((PDT))

 

Buying from this site is cheaper:

http://www.naturalhealthteam.info/templates/System/default.asp?id=38928

That doctor told me drinking Prill water is also good. You can google

Prill water and take a look. You can buy Prill from this site as well.

Also, for my friend's case (stage 4, PSA about 300), he suggested to use

double the suggested dose for the first 25-30 days. then return to

regular dose.

The doctor's name is James Howenstine. Up to now, I am not sure if he is

really good or not. Just give you a reference. You make your own

decision. You can google to find his phone number. He does phone and

email consultation. USD100/hour.

Cindy

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have a comment - Cancercured is one of the

wonderful " alternative groups " that booted me because they did not

want to hear about oleander. Which happens to have a wonderful

record for prostate cancer, btw.

 

 

oleander soup , robert-blau wrote:

>

> Recently posted at cancercured group. Thought the following might

be of

> interest here. Any comments? . . .

>

> 3a. Re: Prostate problems---www.lifeone.org - Thank you!   Posted

by:

> " breathedeepnow " aug20 breathedeepnow   Tue Oct 23,

> 2007 9:39 am ((PDT))

>

> Hi, Cindy.

> I took a quick look at www.lifeone.org and I LIKED what I saw! I

> recommend members have a closer look, which I am also going to do!

> Thanks for telling us about it!

> Blessed wishes,

> Elliot

>

> cancercured , Xinyun Wang <wxinyun@> wrote:

> A doctor who has been supervising cesium chloride treatment told me

> that LifeOne (www.lifeone.org ) works better than cesium chloride

for

> prostate cancer. I browsed that site and did not see how many

patients

> survived. You may take a look.

> Cindy

> Messages in this topic (7)

> ____________

> 3b. Re: Prostate problems---www.lifeone.org - Thank you!   Posted

by:

> " Xinyun Wang " wxinyun newrooms2002   Tue Oct 23,

> 2007 10:29 am ((PDT))

>

> Buying from this site is cheaper:

> http://www.naturalhealthteam.info/templates/System/default.asp?

id=38928

> That doctor told me drinking Prill water is also good. You can

google

> Prill water and take a look. You can buy Prill from this site as

well.

> Also, for my friend's case (stage 4, PSA about 300), he suggested

to use

> double the suggested dose for the first 25-30 days. then return to

> regular dose.

> The doctor's name is James Howenstine. Up to now, I am not sure if

he is

> really good or not. Just give you a reference. You make your own

> decision. You can google to find his phone number. He does phone and

> email consultation. USD100/hour.

> Cindy

>