Guest guest Posted March 17, 2007 Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 Consider not reading further into my comments below until you read the article, then come back.. - - - - - Ok, so your back? Let's take it from the top and work down. So a vaccine allegedly meant to keep a person safe has infected the son and wife- meaning not only the vaccinee but it spread- like how a real virus does- but then again we are intentionally introducing a real virus to the vaccinated. The vaccine was for a disease that was officially declared eradicated in the 1980's. So why do we need a vaccine for a disease that was officially eradicated? Oh that's right, the terrorists might use it- but aren't there different strains? How do we know in advance which of those strains it might be? And obviously it is no longer eradicated now because it was spread through the vaccine, without the aid of KSM. So because of the human meddling which brought this disease back, the offical course of action is using, " ST-246, an experimental drug for smallpox that is untried as a therapy in humans " . That sounds reasonable and safe, right? I mean they have a good track record, right? And isn't it just perfect that a human subject showed up that would be willing to guinea pig their drug for them. Then they go on about how they want to subject all of us to this? And they are not sure what went wrong with the vaccine. How many people have eczema in the US? And what do you mean " allowed " the father to have access to his son- which I agree is not ideal, but does the use of the word " allowed " mean that in future we can be quarantined for taking a vaccine? My stance which you all probably already know is that the mistake was in taking the mercury ladden, virus filled vaccine in the first place. The military knows from past experience that this sort of infection takes place. And there have been no other infections up until they restarted their smallpox vaccination program, so the military required a known, documented dangerous vaccine but no accountability is offered and instead they seem focused on the actions of the solider. There was at least a 2 week gap between the time the solider was infected and the time he contacted his family mid February.. Just how long does this infection period last? Not until a few days after March 3rd do the doctors realize this is vaccine related. So the son was exposing other people for over 2 weeks himself, and it could have been longer if the mother didn't bring the son in for attention. What if that kid was in daycare- that is how an epidemic could very quickly get started. The hospital staff could have been infected because they didn't realize the danger and were using gloves, etc. How many people could the hospital then infect? And then they end with how more education is needed to keep these irresponsible vaccinees from contaminationing others. Really.. The solider needs the education? Now consider if we had a real bioterror event- do you think this would add to the calm response or further the chaos and panic? Consider everyone that woman came in contact with, the nurse came in contact with, the child came into contact with, the husband came in contact with- thats hundreds of people scared out of their mind, if it were known to the public, that they may have been infected. How about the people those people came in contact with? The child is going to lose 20% of his skin, possibly need skin grafting, took two other drugs, and extensive hospital bills for him and his mother. That is a lot of money but for what? What are the statistics on how well smallpox vaccines actually protect from smallpox infection. So far, the only winner- and all the way round from research material/experience to profits from the vaccine and resulting medical intervention, has been the medical community. Now add in the people who fear they may have been infected, and the testing that will need to be done. Of course, natural, inexpensive and sound practices like Ozone treatment does not stand a chance of getting in the way of profits like these. But remember, they are really doing this to, " protect you and keep you safe. " Just how dumb do they think we are?! Other comments? Misty L. Trepke http://health. - Smallpox shot infects soldier's toddler son Boy critically ill; mom also stricken http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi- 0703170122mar17,1,4018337.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld- hed & ctrack=1 & cset=true By Jeremy Manier Tribune staff reporter Published March 17, 2007 In the first case of its kind in years, a 2-year-old boy is being treated in Chicago for a rare and life-threatening infection that he contracted from his father, a U.S. Army soldier recently vaccinated against smallpox. The Indiana boy is in critical condition with eczema vaccinatum, an unusual side effect of the smallpox vaccine that can affect people who receive the shot or their close contacts. Doctors also said the boy appears to have passed the infection to his mother, who has a much milder case of the virus in the smallpox vaccine, which is also called vaccinia. The virus is not smallpox, though it is similar enough to offer protection from that deadly disease, which was declared eradicated in 1980. The mother and child are being treated at the University of Chicago's Comer Children's Hospital, which withheld their names at the family's request. There is no infection risk for the general population, government officials say, since the vaccine virus can spread only through close physical contact. But the boy's diagnosis last week has prompted a frenzy of activity and daily conference calls involving the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the U.S. Department of Defense, and the state and city public health departments. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration gave emergency authorization for the hospital to treat the boy with ST-246, an experimental drug for smallpox that is untried as a therapy in humans. The smallpox vaccine fell out of general use in the 1970s, but the case could be a lesson for the U.S. military, which has vaccinated 1.2 million personnel against smallpox since 2002 amid fears of bioterrorism. It's unclear why the father was allowed to have contact with his son, who had a history of eczema, shortly after the vaccination. The skin condition is a well-known risk factor for eczema vaccinatum, and official guidelines warn that people with eczema should avoid contact with vaccinees. " We are looking into how this could have happened, " said U.S. Army spokesman Paul Boyce. Officials say the general population could receive smallpox vaccinations in the event of a bioterrorist attack or other unforeseen exposure. For that reason, experts want to study the Indiana family to learn more about treatment and transmission of the vaccinia infection. " There certainly are also conceivable insights into smallpox infection, " said Dr. Inger Damon, chief of the CDC's poxvirus and rabies branch. Damon has been involved in the daily conference calls on the boy's treatment. Experts said they knew of no cases of eczema vaccinatum since at least 1990, when the military last had a program of smallpox vaccination. The vaccinia virus in modern smallpox vaccines is closely related to an older form of vaccinia called cowpox, the disease English doctor Edward Jenner used in the late 1700s to develop early methods of vaccination. Jenner relied on the observation that milkmaids who had cowpox seemed to be protected from later smallpox infection. He found that patients inoculated with material from cowpox sores also got protection from smallpox. That history is why the word vaccine stems from the Latin word for cow. Vaccinia was modified from its original form over the years but remains an infectious agent with the potential for side effects. The father of the Indiana boy received the vaccine in late January before a planned military deployment. The Army delayed his departure and permitted him to visit his family in mid-February. Two weeks later, a rash broke out on the boy's skin. He came to the U. of C. on March 3 after being transferred from St. Catherine's Hospital in East Chicago. Doctors first identified his widespread rash as a different form of eczema, but it worsened in his first few days at the U. of C. His mother developed sores after she and her son arrived at the Chicago hospital. Doctors believe she contracted the disease from the boy because of their lengthy close contact. A pediatric dermatologist, Dr. Sarah Stein, noticed the boy's lesions had changed to look like round blisters with a dimple in the middle--a potential sign of vaccinia infection. The medical team took scrapings from the lesions, which they analyzed and sent to the Illinois Department of Public Health's Chicago office for further testing. Rapid tests by the state and further tests at the CDC confirmed the boy had the vaccinia virus, officials at those agencies said. The hospital also sent the CDC photos of the boy's lesions. The hospital already was using infection precautions with the boy, but staffers then added such measures as gloves and face masks. They also placed the boy in a room with negative pressure so the air would always blow inward, keeping the virus inside. The boy's rash had spread to cover 80 percent of his body, said Dr. Madelyn Kahana, chief of pediatric intensive care medicine at the U. of C. He was going into sepsis, a devastating, systemwide infection rarely seen with viral cases. " In the later stages of [eczema vaccinatum], it can look like smallpox, " said Damon of the CDC. The boy needed a ventilator to help his breathing because of the powerful pain medication he needed for the lesions. The boy received the primary treatment for eczema vaccinatum, a drug called vaccinia immune globulin, or VIG. The drug came from a stockpile the CDC keeps in case widespread vaccination ever becomes necessary. He also got an antiviral drug called cidofovir and the experimental drug ST-246, which has been shown to protect laboratory animals from exposure to smallpox. The drug recently entered preliminary human trials but had never been used in a sick patient. U. of C. officials said the boy has shown signs of improvement since hitting a low point last weekend. His mother's health was never in serious danger, but she has remained in his hospital room to keep others from being exposed. Health officials in Chicago and Indiana have tracked all of the family's contacts and found no additional cases so far. Kahana said the boy probably will lose 20 percent of his outer skin layer, but she hopes he will recover without the need for skin grafts. She believes the case should be a lesson to the military, which must educate service members about the risks of the vaccines it requires them to take. " I think the information simply wasn't disseminated properly or impressed in a manner that was understood, " Kahana said, " because I don't think anyone would knowingly expose their child to this. " ---------- jmanier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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