Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 What's too much for one person, may be not enough for another person. Consider a person such as myself who has a "low protein S" or "genetic tendency to clot" -- eating too much vitamin K could cause me to clot, but vitamin E might have the reverse effect. Somebody who is a "bleeder" might easily take too much vitamin E, but never get enough vitamin K in their system. Me, personally, I have taken a lot of vitamin E for an extended period of time and noticed ONLY positive effects. For one thing, it slows my clotting time which is normally too high, and thus reduces my need for coumadin (i.e. "rat poison). Can a person take too much coumadin? Coumadin is a blood thinner. What the doctors say I need to keep my blood anticoagulated so I can heal from extensive clotting in my left leg, would cause another person to bleed to death. I think if a person is going to start taking mega doses of any vitamin, they should have a well thought out reasoning behind it, grounded in knowledge of one's body and knowledge of the vitamin. I have not noticed ANY adverse effects from taking high doses of vitamin E. In fact, I had been suffering from dry skin, and dry hair -- since the increase in vitamin E, my hair is healthy, and my skin is not dry, and requires a fraction of the lotion it did before, even when I swim laps in a chlorinated pool. My personal opinion is if my body has a NEED for it -- something it can USE the vitamin for, it Will assimilate and use it, if my assimilation centers are functioning properly. Since I notice a direct correlation between the amount of vitamin E I Take and how my clotting time tests at the lab, I KNOW I am assimilating it up to point X. I can see the direct correlation. Why do you want to take high doses of vitamin E, I think, should be the first question you should ask yourself. Peace, Cathie In a message dated 8/31/03 12:19:53 PM Mountain Daylight Time, mysticalherbalist writes: Yup!! But you would have to take a lot for a long time. Matter of fact it is possible to take too much of anything. Hence the old adage of moderation in all things. Don Quai --- Original Message ----- John Ybarra herbal remedies Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:27 PM [herbal remedies] Vit E Here's an interesting, probably bone-headed, question. Is it possible to take too much vitamin E? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Also, Vitamin E supports leg veins in particular, and veins in general. I'm trying to heal a lot of damage in my veins, in addition to needing to slow down my clotting time which is too fast, so Vitamin E is appropriate for me. I read in a VERY GOOD BOOK called Miracle Cures by Jean Carper, that Vitamin E can actually REVERSE certain conditions in the veins and heart. I believe in vitamin E, but everybody is not the same. What's good for the goose is not always good for the gander... <<What's too much for one person, may be not enough for another person. Consider a person such as myself who has a "low protein S" or "genetic tendency to clot" -- eating too much vitamin K could cause me to clot, but vitamin E might have the reverse effect. Somebody who is a "bleeder" might easily take too much vitamin E, but never get enough vitamin K in their system. Me, personally, I have taken a lot of vitamin E for an extended period of time and noticed ONLY positive effects. For one thing, it slows my clotting time which is normally too high, and thus reduces my need for coumadin (i.e. "rat poison). Can a person take too much coumadin? Coumadin is a blood thinner. What the doctors say I need to keep my blood anticoagulated so I can heal from extensive clotting in my left leg, would cause another person to bleed to death. I think if a person is going to start taking mega doses of any vitamin, they should have a well thought out reasoning behind it, grounded in knowledge of one's body and knowledge of the vitamin. I have not noticed ANY adverse effects from taking high doses of vitamin E. In fact, I had been suffering from dry skin, and dry hair -- since the increase in vitamin E, my hair is healthy, and my skin is not dry, and requires a fraction of the lotion it did before, even when I swim laps in a chlorinated pool. My personal opinion is if my body has a NEED for it -- something it can USE the vitamin for, it Will assimilate and use it, if my assimilation centers are functioning properly. Since I notice a direct correlation between the amount of vitamin E I Take and how my clotting time tests at the lab, I KNOW I am assimilating it up to point X. I can see the direct correlation. Why do you want to take high doses of vitamin E, I think, should be the first question you should ask yourself. Peace, Cathie In a message dated 8/31/03 12:19:53 PM Mountain Daylight Time, mysticalherbalist writes: Yup!! But you would have to take a lot for a long time. Matter of fact it is possible to take too much of anything. Hence the old adage of moderation in all things. Don Quai --- Original Message ----- John Ybarra herbal remedies Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:27 PM [herbal remedies] Vit E Here's an interesting, probably bone-headed, question. Is it possible to take too much vitamin E? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Yup!! But you would have to take a lot for a long time. Matter of fact it is possible to take too much of anything. Hence the old adage of moderation in all things. Don Quai --- Original Message ----- John Ybarra herbal remedies Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:27 PM [herbal remedies] Vit E Here's an interesting, probably bone-headed, question.Is it possible to take too much vitamin E?=====John Ybarra We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss we refuse to see. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Cathy, Have you also considered cayenne?? SuziWillowSage40 wrote: Also, Vitamin E supports leg veins in particular, and veins in general. I'm trying to heal a lot of damage in my veins, in addition to needing to slow down my clotting time which is too fast, so Vitamin E is appropriate for me. I read in a VERY GOOD BOOK called Miracle Cures by Jean Carper, that Vitamin E can actually REVERSE certain conditions in the veins and heart. I believe in vitamin E, but everybody is not the same. What's good for the goose is not always good for the gander... <<What's too much for one person, may be not enough for another person. Consider a person such as myself who has a "low protein S" or "genetic tendency to clot" -- eating too much vitamin K could cause me to clot, but vitamin E might have the reverse effect. Somebody who is a "bleeder" might easily take too much vitamin E, but never get enough vitamin K in their system.Me, personally, I have taken a lot of vitamin E for an extended period of time and noticed ONLY positive effects. For one thing, it slows my clotting time which is normally too high, and thus reduces my need for coumadin (i.e. "rat poison). Can a person take too much coumadin? Coumadin is a blood thinner. What the doctors say I need to keep my blood anticoagulated so I can heal from extensive clotting in my left leg, would cause another person to bleed to death.I think if a person is going to start taking mega doses of any vitamin, they should have a well thought out reasoning behind it, grounded in knowledge of one's body and knowledge of the vitamin.I have not noticed ANY adverse effects from taking high doses of vitamin E. In fact, I had been suffering from dry skin, and dry hair -- since the increase in vitamin E, my hair is healthy, and my skin is not dry, and requires a fraction of the lotion it did before, even when I swim laps in a chlorinated pool.My personal opinion is if my body has a NEED for it -- something it can USE the vitamin for, it Will assimilate and use it, if my assimilation centers are functioning properly. Since I notice a direct correlation between the amount of vitamin E I Take and how my clotting time tests at the lab, I KNOW I am assimilating it up to point X. I can see the direct correlation. Why do you want to take high doses of vitamin E, I think, should be the first question you should ask yourself.Peace,CathieIn a message dated 8/31/03 12:19:53 PM Mountain Daylight Time, mysticalherbalist writes: Yup!! But you would have to take a lot for a long time. Matter of fact it is possible to take too much of anything. Hence the old adage of moderation in all things. Don Quai --- Original Message ----- John Ybarra herbal remedies Sunday, August 31, 2003 2:27 PM[herbal remedies] Vit EHere's an interesting, probably bone-headed, question.Is it possible to take too much vitamin E?Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 In a message dated 8/31/03 11:04:33 PM Mountain Daylight Time, suziesgoats writes: Cathy, Have you also considered cayenne?? Suzi Hi Suzi, I do take cayenne extract from time to time, but it creates such an uncomfortable bowel movement in me, from the heat, that I have backed off of it and only take it on occasion when I need an extra boost to my circulation. I haven't tried it in capsule form, since the liquid extract is so uncomfortable for me to take ( I didn't want to waste the money and risk it, since I still have a big bottle of the liquid extract in my fridge ). I was trying to take it regularly for a while, but all in all it caused me way too much intestinal discomfort... ;-) I have been taking garlic gel caps though (1000 mg ) and those don't bother me at all. I also drink dong quai in water, but it's hard to be regular with it. And ginger extract also in water. I met one woman on the net a while back who said she kept herself anti-coagulated with dongquai. I just brewed myself a fresh batch of dong quai extract, ( ginger also ) and I do enjoy sipping them in water peridocially, but have not been successful at keeping regular with that habit. So much to do. So much to consider. So much to take into account. Maybe one day I'll get it to all come together, just right ! :-) Peace, Cathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 Cathy, I assume your diet is healthy.... why not have a chat with Doc - just see what he tells you ...??? SuziWillowSage40 wrote: In a message dated 8/31/03 11:04:33 PM Mountain Daylight Time, suziesgoats writes: Cathy,Have you also considered cayenne??SuziHi Suzi, I do take cayenne extract from time to time, but it creates such an uncomfortable bowel movement in me, from the heat, that I have backed off of it and only take it on occasion when I need an extra boost to my circulation. I haven't tried it in capsule form, since the liquid extract is so uncomfortable for me to take ( I didn't want to waste the money and risk it, since I still have a big bottle of the liquid extract in my fridge ). I was trying to take it regularly for a while, but all in all it caused me way too much intestinal discomfort... ;-) I have been taking garlic gel caps though (1000 mg ) and those don't bother me at all. I also drink dong quai in water, but it's hard to be regular with it. And ginger extract also in water. I met one woman on the net a while back who said she kept herself anti-coagulated with dongquai. I just brewed myself a fresh batch of dong quai extract, ( ginger also ) and I do enjoy sipping them in water peridocially, but have not been successful at keeping regular with that habit. So much to do. So much to consider. So much to take into account. Maybe one day I'll get it to all come together, just right ! :-) Peace,Cathie Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Vitamin could slow cancer growth A vitamin found in pecan nuts may help to slow the growth of cancer cells. A form of vitamin E found in pecans and some sesame seeds has been shown to interfere with the growth of prostate and lung cancer cells reports the Daily Mail. Scientists say the compound called gamma-tocopherol has been shown to induce death in laboratory-grown human cancer cells while leaving healthy cell alone. Dr Qing Jian, who led the research at Purdue University in Indiana, US said: " We discovered that as we increased the quantity of gamma-tropherol, the cancer cells grew more slowly. But the healthy prostate cells grew normally. This could indicate that the vitamin could be used to target lung and prostate cancer cells. " She added that most supplements contain only alpha-tocopherol, a different form of vitamin E that alone does not have these anti-cancer properties. Jerry Mittelman, DDS, FAPM - - - Reply with your po box or street address to get a free copy of The Holistic Dental Digest PLUS. jmittelman What dentists aren't likely to learn in dental school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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