Why Patients Treat Themselves

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You obviously seem to have a problem with the medical profession.

Disease is not mysterious at all,just misunderstood. You and doctors

are a prime example of that. Your last comment about licorice tells

me everything I need to know and validates my point. I don't care

how many groups you are on, or how long you have been on them, you

simply do not have proper information about licorice root then,

which gets back to my original comment about educating yoursself.It

can in fact kill you if you are not aware, if you have high blood

pressure. The human body is not mysterious and it will in fact heal

itself, but in order to do that, it needs the proper materials, It

got sick in the first place most probably because it was denied the

materials it needed to operate at maximum efficiency. Improper diet

is the major cause of disease. IF you give it the proper materials

it will in fact heal itself. I prove that every day by telling

people what their bodies are lacking to heal themselves. You sound

like a disturbed person. If I do in fact have an arrogant attitude I

apologize, but it is clear to me that most people do not have the

proper knowledge to be diagnosing serious illnesses, not that they

could not acquire those skills through study. Treatment is another

issue They can go hand in hand or not. It seems from your comments

on this post that you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. I

did not assume that you did not have the skills to properly diagnose

the disease process, it was apparent from your comments and your

posts. YOur comment, " and who else would study this subject " , why I

in fact would, and there are many educated people who do in fact

have more knowledge and skill than Doctors. I invited you to join

my group to see for yourself of my expertise, so you could make an

informed opinion for yourself.In my opinion you are a confused

person to say the least. I wish you well in life. MOst peoople are

not as you say incrediably resourceful about taking care of

themselves, and what do you define as good health care, and who is

withholing good health care? NObody I know!! You obviously are angry

about life and the cards you have been delt in regards to healh or

health care. I hope you resolve those issues and find peace.

 

 

 

, as <glkbreeze>

wrote:

>

> MY COMMENTS IN CAPITAL LETTERS:

> After I picked myself up from off the floor, because I

> fell off of my

> chair from laughing so hard,

> IM GLAD TO KNOW YOU CAN LAUGH.

> I went back and looked at the things I

> had written, that would have encouraged you to write

> the statement

> that I am a part of the problem, and for the life of

> me I could not

> find anything. I would certainly love to know why you

> in fact state

> those things.

> BECAUSE YOU KEEP SENDING THE DISEMPOWERING MESSAGE:

> DON'T TRUST YOUR OWN MIND. SEE A PROFESSIONAL. YOU

> AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND " THE DISEASE

> PROCESS. "

> Perhaps to save you a lot of typing ,let me give you

> a

> little information, so you perhaps can properly

> analyze the

> situation. The last thing I wrote was " seek advice

> from a

> professional. not necessarily a doctor " and I put

> about 5 or 6

> exclammation points after the word doctor

> YES. AND WHO ELSE WOULD STUDY THIS SUBJECT? HOW WOULD

> A PERSON AFFORD TO SEE ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL NOT ON

> THEIR INSURANCE PLAN?

> I find your arguments specious and so far out in left

> field that again they are laughable,

> nad I apologize for offending, but you make it too

> easy. I have not

> been to a doctor in OH 30 years. The last time I went

> was to have

> surgery for a football injury to my knee( I played in

> college),

> OK. THEN WHY DON'T YOU SPILL THE BEANS AND TELL US WHY

> YOU ARE SUCH AN EXPERT?

> which I probably could have cured myself had I taken

> the time. Here

> is why I find your opinion laughable. While I applaud

> the fact that

> you want to think for yourself, becuase I too find the

> medical

> profession laughable,and I in fact got to this place

> because I did

> in fact think for myself, you and most people do not

> have the

> education necessary not the skills to understand and

> diagnose the

> disease process in the human body.

> WHY DO YOU ASSUME WE DO NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR

> SKILLS TO UNDERSTAND AND DIAGNOSE " THE DISEASE

> PROCESS " ?

> A mistake can cost someone

> dearly.

> I HAVE A LITTLE SECRET FOR YOU. PEOPLE ARE INCREDIBLY

> RESOURCEFUL ABOUT TAKING CARE OF THEMSELVES.

> WHAT IS TRULY EVIL IS WHEN GOOD HEALTH CARE IS

> WITHHELD FROM THEM.

> I find most of the solutions here laughable at best.

> WHAT SOLUTIONS ARE YOUR REFERRING TO? YOU HAVE BEEN

> IN THIS GROUP A FEW WEEKS?

> IT is obvious that people are well intentioned but

> their skill level in

> this area is minimal, and for someone such as myself

> who is in fact

> very damn good at what I do. I find it reprehensible.

> Offering

> advice as to cures when you do not in fact understand

> enough about

> the human body nor the disease process to be offering

> such. You

> probably went to the internet and read something and

> offered it as

> advice.

> I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO HERE. YOU MUST

> BE REFERRING TO SOMEONE ELSE. YOUR ARROGANT ATTITUDE

> IS PLAIN. HERE YOU GO AGAIN SUGGESTING THAT DISEASE

> IS JUST SO MYSTERIOUS AND COMPLEX.

> THE TRUTH IS, MOST BODIES HEAL THEMSELVES WITHOUT THE

> HELP OF ANYONE.

> IF you are a free thinker as you say, and I applaud

> you for

> that, at least take the time to educate yourself as to

> the body and

> how to heal it, then let's talk. For example an

> uneducated person

> might offer licorice root to someone as a cure for

> bronchitis, or

> some other disease, and am educated person would know

> that there are

> certain risks associated with taking licorice root,

> and the person

> should be well aware of those prior to taking it, and

> if they have

> high blood pressure, it could in fact kill them.

> LICORICE KILL SOMEONE?

> Just an example for you. Oh by the way licorice root

> increases the T-cell count in the

> body better than any medicine known to man.

> I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS GROUP AND OTHERS FOR OVER A

> YEAR AND NEVER HEARD ANY SUGGESTION AS RIDICULOUS AS

> YOUR EXAMPLE ABOVE.

>

> I used to go to anatomy and physiology classes at

> college as a

> 14 year old. I have an IQ of over 168.

> AND I STARTED THE UNIVERSITY WHEN I WAS 16 AND TESTED

> 150 ON AN IQ TEST. SO WHAT?

> I HAVE A LITTLE SECRET FOR YOU. THERE ARE A LOT OF

> SMART PEOPLE ON THE NET—THAT'S ONE REASON THE

> GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SHIFT TO INTERNET 2 AND CONTROL

> THE INTERNET.

> My mother was a professor in college teaching the

> subject. I know more about the human body than any

> doctor. I also know more about food, how it works in

> the body

> and herbs than perhaps most individuals alive. I could

> probably

> recite grays anatomy for you cover to cover!!!!I have

> dedicated 20

> years of my life to this subject.

> GOOD. THEN IF YOU JUST GET OVER YOUR ARROGANT

> ATTITUDE, YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE OF BEING A REALLY

> GOOD HEALER.

> For you to compare me to a doctor

> or say that I am part of the problem is highly

> insulting. That

> having been said, if I shattered my leg, I would

> certainly want a

> good orthopedic surgeon in my corner.

> YES, AND SO WOULD WE ALL IF WE COULD AFFORD IT AND BE

> SURE WE WERE NOT USED AS A GUINEA PIG FOR SOME MEDICAL

> STUDENT TO PRACTICE ON.

> Knowledge is power in case you

> were not aware. To get more powerful EDUCATE

> YOURSELF!!! Then you

> will not be a pawn on the chessboard of life!!! ,

> continue to be a

> free thinker. It is what makes people great. By the

> way I do have a

> called becomingyounger, you are welcome to

> join and see

> if in fact I am part of the problem as you say!!! Have

> a great day,

> and I would suggest that next time before you spout

> off, you ask

> questions as you see me do here rather than just offer

> your

> opinion!!!

> THANKS FOR THE INVITATION. I'LL PASS IT ON TO ALL OF

> THE SICK PEOPLE HERE ON THE WEB WHO ARE DESPERATELY

> TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES.

> PS. IM GLAD I GAVE YOU A GOOD LAUGH. THANKS AGAIN FOR

> THE INVITATION TO YOUR GROUP.

>

> , as

> <glkbreeze>

> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Mark,

> >

> > I don't know what kind of medical care you have, but

> > many of us don't have any or have given up on

> doctors

> > due to the poor care we have received over the

> years.

> > If you think doctors do some kind of serious

> analysis

> > for most of their patients, I think you must be

> > dreaming.

> > Last time I went to doctor, I had a skin rash from

> > ankle to neck which itched like chicken pox. It

> would

> > flare up at night especially and almost looked like

> > bug bites. I was told I would have to wait a month

> to

> > be seen. When I finally got into the office, he

> > insisted it was a soap allergy even though I

> explained

> > that I had already ruled that out and I had wanted

> to

> > have him take a look. He didn't even take a look. I

> > was dismissed with a prescription for a little tube

> of

> > hydrocortisone creme. I could have figured that

> much

> > out on my own!

> > He also gave me a referral to a specialist, which I

> > found out would be another wait of at least a month

> > and a half.

> > What is funny, about a month later, a family member

> > discovered tiny, tiny little bugs crawling in the

> > static on the computer screen. I don't know if that

> > was the source of my rash, but I took a cloth with

> > some rubbing alcohol and water on it and wiped all

> of

> > the surfaces in my home. Eventually the problem

> slowly

> > cleared up with time.

> > The bill, which was paid for by my insurance, came

> to

> > $200 for this worthless visit.

> > Looking back over the course of the past 20 years,

> I

> > now see that almost every visit to the doctor was

> this

> > worthless.

> > I hope my comments can save others their time and

> > money.

> > When doctors get paid regardless of the quality of

> the

> > job they do, they have little incentive to strive to

> > do their best. Then, of course, they are

> > " gatekeepers " , which means they can arbitrarily

> decide

> > who gets the expensive tests and drugs (they even

> > sometimes get to split the money they save by not

> > prescribing antibiotics, for example), and then we

> > have the almost cult-like views on medicine, and

> they

> > have different levels of care depending on your

> > insurance plan, and I could go on and on...the

> > problems are too numerous to mention. For the

> example

> > of a skin rash, often hydrocortisone is prescribed

> as

> > the first method of treatment with little or no

> > thought given to the " minor " problem.

> >

> > It's obvious you are part of the system, and I find

> > your fear mongering distasteful:

> >

> >

> > " Oh, don't think for yourself. Let a real doctor

> > analyze this. Only your doctor has the vast

> knowledge

> > to understand these complex issues. "

> > The truth is, a doctor would never take the time to

> > get to the root of these complex problems, and that

> is

> > why we are all doing it for ourselves.

> >

> >

> >

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