Why Patients Treat Themselves

[Guest guest]

MY COMMENTS IN CAPITAL LETTERS:

After I picked myself up from off the floor, because I

fell off of my

chair from laughing so hard,

IM GLAD TO KNOW YOU CAN LAUGH.

I went back and looked at the things I

had written, that would have encouraged you to write

the statement

that I am a part of the problem, and for the life of

me I could not

find anything. I would certainly love to know why you

in fact state

those things.

BECAUSE YOU KEEP SENDING THE DISEMPOWERING MESSAGE:

DON’T TRUST YOUR OWN MIND. SEE A PROFESSIONAL. YOU

AREN’T SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND “THE DISEASE

PROCESS.”

Perhaps to save you a lot of typing ,let me give you

a

little information, so you perhaps can properly

analyze the

situation. The last thing I wrote was " seek advice

from a

professional. not necessarily a doctor " and I put

about 5 or 6

exclammation points after the word doctor

YES. AND WHO ELSE WOULD STUDY THIS SUBJECT? HOW WOULD

A PERSON AFFORD TO SEE ANOTHER PROFESSIONAL NOT ON

THEIR INSURANCE PLAN?

I find your arguments specious and so far out in left

field that again they are laughable,

nad I apologize for offending, but you make it too

easy. I have not

been to a doctor in OH 30 years. The last time I went

was to have

surgery for a football injury to my knee( I played in

college),

OK. THEN WHY DON’T YOU SPILL THE BEANS AND TELL US WHY

YOU ARE SUCH AN EXPERT?

which I probably could have cured myself had I taken

the time. Here

is why I find your opinion laughable. While I applaud

the fact that

you want to think for yourself, becuase I too find the

medical

profession laughable,and I in fact got to this place

because I did

in fact think for myself, you and most people do not

have the

education necessary not the skills to understand and

diagnose the

disease process in the human body.

WHY DO YOU ASSUME WE DO NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR

SKILLS TO UNDERSTAND AND DIAGNOSE “THE DISEASE

PROCESS”?

A mistake can cost someone

dearly.

I HAVE A LITTLE SECRET FOR YOU. PEOPLE ARE INCREDIBLY

RESOURCEFUL ABOUT TAKING CARE OF THEMSELVES.

WHAT IS TRULY EVIL IS WHEN GOOD HEALTH CARE IS

WITHHELD FROM THEM.

I find most of the solutions here laughable at best.

WHAT SOLUTIONS ARE YOUR REFERRING TO? YOU HAVE BEEN

IN THIS GROUP A FEW WEEKS?

IT is obvious that people are well intentioned but

their skill level in

this area is minimal, and for someone such as myself

who is in fact

very damn good at what I do. I find it reprehensible.

Offering

advice as to cures when you do not in fact understand

enough about

the human body nor the disease process to be offering

such. You

probably went to the internet and read something and

offered it as

advice.

I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO HERE. YOU MUST

BE REFERRING TO SOMEONE ELSE. YOUR ARROGANT ATTITUDE

IS PLAIN. HERE YOU GO AGAIN SUGGESTING THAT DISEASE

IS JUST SO MYSTERIOUS AND COMPLEX.

THE TRUTH IS, MOST BODIES HEAL THEMSELVES WITHOUT THE

HELP OF ANYONE.

IF you are a free thinker as you say, and I applaud

you for

that, at least take the time to educate yourself as to

the body and

how to heal it, then let's talk. For example an

uneducated person

might offer licorice root to someone as a cure for

bronchitis, or

some other disease, and am educated person would know

that there are

certain risks associated with taking licorice root,

and the person

should be well aware of those prior to taking it, and

if they have

high blood pressure, it could in fact kill them.

LICORICE KILL SOMEONE?

Just an example for you. Oh by the way licorice root

increases the T-cell count in the

body better than any medicine known to man.

I’VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS GROUP AND OTHERS FOR OVER A

YEAR AND NEVER HEARD ANY SUGGESTION AS RIDICULOUS AS

YOUR EXAMPLE ABOVE.

 

I used to go to anatomy and physiology classes at

college as a

14 year old. I have an IQ of over 168.

AND I STARTED THE UNIVERSITY WHEN I WAS 16 AND TESTED

150 ON AN IQ TEST. SO WHAT?

I HAVE A LITTLE SECRET FOR YOU. THERE ARE A LOT OF

SMART PEOPLE ON THE NET—THAT’S ONE REASON THE

GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SHIFT TO INTERNET 2 AND CONTROL

THE INTERNET.

My mother was a professor in college teaching the

subject. I know more about the human body than any

doctor. I also know more about food, how it works in

the body

and herbs than perhaps most individuals alive. I could

probably

recite grays anatomy for you cover to cover!!!!I have

dedicated 20

years of my life to this subject.

GOOD. THEN IF YOU JUST GET OVER YOUR ARROGANT

ATTITUDE, YOU MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE OF BEING A REALLY

GOOD HEALER.

For you to compare me to a doctor

or say that I am part of the problem is highly

insulting. That

having been said, if I shattered my leg, I would

certainly want a

good orthopedic surgeon in my corner.

YES, AND SO WOULD WE ALL IF WE COULD AFFORD IT AND BE

SURE WE WERE NOT USED AS A GUINEA PIG FOR SOME MEDICAL

STUDENT TO PRACTICE ON.

Knowledge is power in case you

were not aware. To get more powerful EDUCATE

YOURSELF!!! Then you

will not be a pawn on the chessboard of life!!! ,

continue to be a

free thinker. It is what makes people great. By the

way I do have a

called becomingyounger, you are welcome to

join and see

if in fact I am part of the problem as you say!!! Have

a great day,

and I would suggest that next time before you spout

off, you ask

questions as you see me do here rather than just offer

your

opinion!!!

THANKS FOR THE INVITATION. I’LL PASS IT ON TO ALL OF

THE SICK PEOPLE HERE ON THE WEB WHO ARE DESPERATELY

TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES.

PS. IM GLAD I GAVE YOU A GOOD LAUGH. THANKS AGAIN FOR

THE INVITATION TO YOUR GROUP.

 

, as

<glkbreeze>

wrote:

>

>

> Mark,

>

> I don't know what kind of medical care you have, but

> many of us don't have any or have given up on

doctors

> due to the poor care we have received over the

years.

> If you think doctors do some kind of serious

analysis

> for most of their patients, I think you must be

> dreaming.

> Last time I went to doctor, I had a skin rash from

> ankle to neck which itched like chicken pox. It

would

> flare up at night especially and almost looked like

> bug bites. I was told I would have to wait a month

to

> be seen. When I finally got into the office, he

> insisted it was a soap allergy even though I

explained

> that I had already ruled that out and I had wanted

to

> have him take a look. He didn't even take a look. I

> was dismissed with a prescription for a little tube

of

> hydrocortisone creme. I could have figured that

much

> out on my own!

> He also gave me a referral to a specialist, which I

> found out would be another wait of at least a month

> and a half.

> What is funny, about a month later, a family member

> discovered tiny, tiny little bugs crawling in the

> static on the computer screen. I don't know if that

> was the source of my rash, but I took a cloth with

> some rubbing alcohol and water on it and wiped all

of

> the surfaces in my home. Eventually the problem

slowly

> cleared up with time.

> The bill, which was paid for by my insurance, came

to

> $200 for this worthless visit.

> Looking back over the course of the past 20 years,

I

> now see that almost every visit to the doctor was

this

> worthless.

> I hope my comments can save others their time and

> money.

> When doctors get paid regardless of the quality of

the

> job they do, they have little incentive to strive to

> do their best. Then, of course, they are

> " gatekeepers " , which means they can arbitrarily

decide

> who gets the expensive tests and drugs (they even

> sometimes get to split the money they save by not

> prescribing antibiotics, for example), and then we

> have the almost cult-like views on medicine, and

they

> have different levels of care depending on your

> insurance plan, and I could go on and on...the

> problems are too numerous to mention. For the

example

> of a skin rash, often hydrocortisone is prescribed

as

> the first method of treatment with little or no

> thought given to the " minor " problem.

>

> It's obvious you are part of the system, and I find

> your fear mongering distasteful:

>

>

> " Oh, don't think for yourself. Let a real doctor

> analyze this. Only your doctor has the vast

knowledge

> to understand these complex issues. "

> The truth is, a doctor would never take the time to

> get to the root of these complex problems, and that

is

> why we are all doing it for ourselves.

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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