[SecretsRevealed] Deadly Diabetes Deception

[Guest guest]

Dear Ernie...

 

Thank you for your input...

 

Yes, I agree completely that as a prerequiste for cure, a healthy lifestyle

would have to be maintained... A broken pancreas, like a broken arm would have

to avoid being stressed in the ways that caused it to break initially...

 

As far as whether cure is possible, I was once told: argue for your limitations

and they are yours...

 

There are things out there, I don't fully have a grasp of them yet, but I think

they are out there. This goes to the heart of real medicine, can we only

palliate a symptom, or can the body, with or without our assistance really HEAL?

For a start I would look at diet and consider a raw food/living food diet...

Homeopathy or acupuncture- some form of treatment that addresses and works on

the level of the iniate wisdom of the body... I have heard of other herbs that

do much, much more than we understand herbs to be able to do to help, but don't

know enough just yet to share...

 

But I have witnessed herbal concoctions that go so far beyond what we think

healing is capable of... For example I had a deep, long cut that by all standard

reasoning would have required stitches to heal. Instead I used the Ultimate

Healing Oil that I have mentioned before, the very next day there was a scab

that completely pulled the wound together. It healed in days and without

infection or complication. There are amazing things out there... As I learn

more about options for diabetes, I will be glad to share...

 

As far as age and the decline of the human frame, of course this has to be taken

into account, but I think if we give up at this juncture, we deny ourselves the

possibility of more...

 

Best Wishes,

Misty

http://www..com

 

 

 

Ernie Karhu <erniekarhu wrote:

Comments? Yes, indeed. While I agree that the information in this post is

helpful and, in large, correct, I do believe it is also dangerous and/or

misleading to suggest that a " cure " could be so easily available. Diabetes

can at best be prevented or its onset can be delayed, but once manifested,

it can be managed throughout the rest of one's life and become relatively

asymptomatic or namely free of symptoms.

 

 

 

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Dear Misty,

 

 

 

I am not arguing for my limitations. I've seen both sides. I've performed

medical miracles on myself. I've done this with qualified medical witnesses.

I've witnessed many medical miracles beyond belief. And I also have family

members who believed their diabetes was cured only to lose a leg due to

gangrene. I've seen worse. My father died because he felt great, seemed

normal and discontinued medication only to have a heart attack and stroke. I

don't want to encourage needless suffering when modest lifelong effort is

all that is needed.

 

 

 

I'll be the first in line to say " cure " when medical science uses stem cell

research to cure diabetes or when through some other effort a 75 year old

person is transformed to age 18 year old forever. Diabetes is a product of

aging. So that when you can cure or reverse and maintain (stop) aging

forever, I'll accept cure the same for diabetes.

 

 

 

I restored my own completely severed right leg muscle and walked away from

the hospital the same day without surgery ever for that injury. Years

earlier I wanted to restore my totally disarticulated (meaning disconnected)

left foot and leg, but the orthopedists said they could do it better; after

three surgeries, maybe they did. I was told I probably wouldn't walk after

age 50 (I was 35). I'm 66 and have no problems yet with either leg. I've

seen and witnessed other even greater miracles. Cancer cures. Heart defect

cures. Cures of chronic mental illness.

 

 

 

I wanted to cure my own diabetes but have since conceded that I that all I

need to do is manage it lifelong. By cure I could throw out diet and

exercise like almost every other non-diabetic I know. They can eat a dozen

cookies or an entire pie and/or cake and have normal fasting blood glucose

the next morning. I can't. Nor can any one else after they've been diagnosed

with diabetes unless they take insulin or powerful drugs. I don't take those

medications and I can't consume large quantities of sugar or highly refined

carbohydrates either. I have to restrict what I consume and I need to

exercise daily in order to avoid medication. That's OK with me because I

want to live long and prosper healthwise. Dietary restrictions and exercise

are an acceptable alternative for me.

 

 

 

There are just some things we all cannot do yet: and one is to cure

diabetes. Maybe one day. But I will not encourage anyone to needlessly do

that when they do not have to. As long as I manage my dis-ease optimally, I

have as much chance as anyone to live a healthy life beyond 120 years. If

so, why would I need cure?

 

 

 

Maybe I was or am the first and only person to restore a severed leg. I

wouldn't recommend even that to others. My doctors allowed me to walk away

if I agreed to let them monitor my progress. I agreed. I could have walked

away anyway as anyone can. But such a decision should be made only by the

person and jointly in consideration with their health care provider or some

other knowledgeable person having direct knowledge of that case. There are

issues of malpractice and that of providing medical advice in violation of

laws. I don't want to go there. So encouraging cure without lifelong

management in the case of diabetes is dangerous and irresponsible, no matter

how enlightened you are, without specific knowledge of those you encourage.

 

 

 

Let's be reasonable and " error " in terms of encouraging people to manage

responsibly.

 

 

 

I don't want to destroy hope, nor do I want to encourage needless folly. We

are not there yet. Maybe some day. Maybe soon. I've not heard of one case

yet. If someone wanst to be the first, they can go without my encouragement,

because in the case of diabetes, cure is unnecessary when management

accomplishes the same result: a normal asymptomatic long life.

 

 

 

I haven't given up if I am able to manage my own dis-ease. Nor am I asking

anyone to give up when they need to do no more than simple lifelong

management. In my own practice, I give people tools to manage themselves so

they do not have to rely on me. But as an energy worker I remind people that

they may have to help themselves lifelong. I can remove severe pain but I

cannot prevent them from ever again experiencing distress or psychological

reversal.

 

 

 

A well-known Native American Shaman from this area came to me because no one

else could assist him in the relief of severe pain. That's my work He could

barely walk to my treatment room. He left several hours later after

treatment and with a treatment plan. He returned home and did some major

physical work that afternoon and slept that night for the first time in

years, uninterrupted. He has not had to return. It would not cost him

anything more than his time to return. But he does send me patients. I work

with those who others feel are without hope.

 

 

 

I teach my patients how to reduce and remove their symptoms energetically. I

use some heavy duty tools but teach them how to rely on their own simple

tools and manage their own lives for themselves. If they cannot afford my

fees I do not charge them money but ask for their blessing after they are

free of their symptoms. I encourage them to manage themselves. Sometimes

after a new injury or dis-ease they come back for a new lesson or guidance.

 

 

 

Hado,

 

 

 

Ernie Karhu

 

http://erniekarhu.byregion.net/

 

 

 

 

 

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Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:56:35 -0700 (PDT)

 

mistylyn trepke <mistytrepke

 

Re: [secretsRevealed] Deadly Diabetes Deception

 

 

 

Dear Ernie...

 

 

 

Thank you for your input...

 

 

 

Yes, I agree completely that as a prerequiste for cure, a healthy lifestyle

would have to be maintained... A broken pancreas, like a broken arm would

have to avoid being stressed in the ways that caused it to break

initially...

 

 

 

As far as whether cure is possible, I was once told: argue for your

limitations and they are yours...

 

 

 

There are things out there, I don't fully have a grasp of them yet, but I

think they are out there. This goes to the heart of real medicine, can we

only palliate a symptom, or can the body, with or without our assistance

really HEAL? For a start I would look at diet and consider a raw

food/living food diet... Homeopathy or acupuncture- some form of treatment

that addresses and works on the level of the iniate wisdom of the body... I

have heard of other herbs that do much, much more than we understand herbs

to be able to do to help, but don't know enough just yet to share...

 

 

 

But I have witnessed herbal concoctions that go so far beyond what we think

healing is capable of... For example I had a deep, long cut that by all

standard reasoning would have required stitches to heal. Instead I used the

Ultimate Healing Oil that I have mentioned before, the very next day there

was a scab that completely pulled the wound together. It healed in days and

without infection or complication. There are amazing things out there...

As I learn more about options for diabetes, I will be glad to share...

 

 

 

As far as age and the decline of the human frame, of course this has to be

taken into account, but I think if we give up at this juncture, we deny

ourselves the possibility of more...

 

 

 

Best Wishes,

 

Misty

 

http://www..com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ernie Karhu <erniekarhu wrote:

 

Comments? Yes, indeed. While I agree that the information in this post is

 

helpful and, in large, correct, I do believe it is also dangerous and/or

 

misleading to suggest that a " cure " could be so easily available. Diabetes

 

can at best be prevented or its onset can be delayed, but once manifested,

 

it can be managed throughout the rest of one's life and become relatively

 

asymptomatic or namely free of symptoms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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