Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 > Hi Carol, did you see Mysti's post on the Thermography? -- THERMOGRAPHY AS MAMMOGRAPHY ALTERNATIVE Dr. Frank A. Charles, N.D. Page 24 Fall/Winter 2001-2002 Carolina Health & Healing magazine (now called Integrative Health & Self Healing) www.integrativehealthandhealing.com There probably isn't a person in America who has not been touched by a loved one who has battled breast cancer. Medical science has not yet learned how to prevent breast cancer but improvements in early detection promise a greater chance of survival. One of the most exciting and recent developments in the early detection of breast cancer is in the field of advanced medical Digital Infrared Thermographic Imaging or DITI. Several new dramatic improvements in DITI technology, coupled with patient awareness and new medical warnings concerning overuse of ionizing radiation from x-rays, are pushing DITI into the breast- screening arena. DITI now offers the advantages of being totally painless, totally safe, low in cost, and effective at any age. You may be asking: " If DITI is so great, why haven't I heard much about it? Why hasn't DITI been utilized more for breast screening if it offers all these advantages? " PRESENTING DITI Medical DITI has been used extensively in human medicine in the U.S.A., Europe and Asia for the past 20 years. While the technology lost favor some time ago because of cumbersome equipment, difficult protocols and unrefined technology, events are rapidly changing. New ultra-sensitive, ultra-resolution DITI devices have many doctors and researchers believing that DITI exams could prove to be a simpler, less expensive and more effective complement to mammography than other newer imaging methods. Recent concerns about mammography and the benefits of a new DITI manufactured by a company from Australia, have resulted in DITI imaging centers in other parts of the world now being able to offer this technology to women interested in taking control of their health. PROBLEMS WITH MAMMOGRAPHY Until recently, mammography was considered to be our only option in breast screening. That is rapidly changing as experts in the field of ionizing radiation are questioning the long- term cumulative effects of these types of procedures. The truth about mammography is that it may not be as safe or effective as once believed. Many informed experts are now questioning the detrimental effects from cumulative radiation. The fact is that this area has not been properly researched, especially considering the multiple-exposures being absorbed by many individuals and the cumulative effects of radiation from mammography, dental and other radiation sources. Based on 40 years of research on the effects of low-dose radiation on humans, John Gofman, M.D., Ph.D., a renowned authority on the health effects of ionizing radiation, estimates that 75 percent of breast cancer could be prevented by avoiding or minimizing exposure from mammography and X-rays. Dr. Gofman believes strongly that there is no " safe threshold " for exposure to low level-level ionizing radiation. Another potential concern about the mammogram is that it may, on occasion, even help spread an existing mass of cancer cells. During the procedure, considerable pressure is placed on the woman's breast by the mammography technologist as the breast is firmly squeezed between two flat plastic surfaces. Dr. Lorraine Day, a pathologist and breast cancer survivor, and other researchers have raised concerns about the negative effects of breast compression. The National Cancer Institute (NCI) and the National Academy of Sciences admit that mammography promotes cancer. Their justification for continuing to endorse mammography is that the incidence of cancer is small in relation to the number of early detection cases. However, Dr. Charles B. Simone, founder of the Simone Protective Cancer Center and a former clinical associate in immunology and pharmacology at the NCI, says that earlier detection has not resulted in longer life when the data is really analyzed. Here are some other comments on mammography: " By the time a tumor is large enough to be seen by a mammogram, it is usually 8 years old, has approximately 500 million cells, and is approximately an inch long. " Lancet, Oct. 10, 1992. " If all American women between forty and fifty were screened yearly by mammogram, 40 out of every 100 cancers would be missed. " New England Journal of Medicine, 328:176 1993. " Half of all breast cancers in women under 45 are invisible on a mammogram. " American Health, 1994 MORE ABOUT DITI DITI has been recognized as a viable diagnostic tool since 1987 by the AMA Council on Scientific Affairs, by the ACA Council on Diagnostic Imaging, by the Congress of Neurosurgeons in 1988 and by the American Academy of Physical Medicine and Rehabili-tation in 1990. DITI works differently than tests such as x-ray, ultrasound or MRI. Those technologies can detect changes in tissue structure only, because they are anatomical tests. Tumors must be formed, dense and of a certain size to be detected by mammography or ultrasound. DITI is unique in its ability to show physiological change and metabolic processes that are strongly indicative of breast abnormality. DITI can detect subtle changes in breast temperature that indicate a variety of breast diseases and abnormalities. Once abnormal heat patterns are detected in the breast, follow up procedures are recommended to rule out or properly diagnose cancer and a host of other diseases such as fibrocystic syndrome and Paget¹s disease. Breast tumors always involve increased vascularization and blood flow as part of the body¹s immune response prior to tumor formation. Identifying this increased vascularization and abnormal hypothermic patterning is what gives DITI earlier detection advantages over mammography and other tests. Many of the so-called false positives of DITI breast screening are often true positive findings of angiogenesis (increased blood supply) preceding actual tumor development. Detection in these early stages is unreliable by conventional means, often due to the fact that the tumor has not yet developed any mass or sufficient density. For younger women in particular, DITI offers a major advantage. In women under fifty, where tumor-doubling time is significantly increased, mammography is not nearly as effective. The faster a malignant tumor grows, the more infrared radiation it generates. This makes detection by DITI in young women highly probable and accurate at an earlier stage than other types of screening. Non-cancerous masses show different patterns than cancerous masses under DITI screening. DITI therefore has advantages in screening for cancerous versus non-cancerous growths. It is possible and highly probable that with increased use of DITI, many women could be spared unnecessary invasive testing and radiation exposure. While other more traditional methods such as MRI and ultrasound are being developed and touted as new advancements in screening, they are much more expensive and are still limited to structural changes even though they may deliver an improvement in sensitivity to smaller tumors. WHO SHOULD HAVE A DITI EXAM? DITI is for any woman who would rather not undergo the discomfort of mammogram radiation if not necessary. DITI is especially appropriate for younger women between 20 and 50 whose denser breast tissue makes it more difficult for mammography to pick up suspicious lesions. It is appropriate for women who are outside of the mammogram screening guidelines due to surgical procedures, breast implants or other contraindications. The DITI session can provide a clinical marker to the doctor or thermographer indicating that a specific area of the breast needs particularly close examination. A DITI exam takes 15 minutes, is pain-free and establishes a baseline from which other exams can be compared in the future. If an abnormality is found, your doctor can then plan accordingly and lay out a program to further diagnose and /or monitor you until other standard testing is positive. This allows for the earliest possible treatment. DITI's role in breast cancer and other breast disorders is to help in three ways: early detection, the monitoring of abnormal physiology, and the establishment of risk factors for other developments of cancer. When used with other procedures, the best possible evaluation of breast health is made. It is in this role that thermography provides its most practical benefit to the general public and to the medical profession. It is certainly an adjunct, and not a competitor, to the appropriate use of mammography. In fact, thermography has the ability to identify patients at the highest risk and actually increase the effective use of mammography imaging procedures. For more information on DITI, or breast screening centers utilizing the latest DITI technology, please contact the author. Dr. Frank A. Charles, N.D. is President of the Vision Medical Group /VMG, Inc. a medical equipment supplier and consultant to the health care industry for DITI and other biological medicine technologies. He can be reached at 1-888-352-8570. ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< A Consideration: X-Rays and Your Health In 1965, the British Journal of Cancer published the first study indicating that medical x-rays are a cause of breast cancer. In 1969, I entered the nursing profession. In the past thirty-two years, the " cure for cancer " is still " just around the corner " , and little has changed, except that more women, and younger women are diagnosed with breast cancer. In 1997, I was introduced to John Gofman, MD, PhD, while researching an article I was writing for Women’s Health Month. According to Gofman’s study, seventy-five percent of all recent, current, and incubating breast cancer cases are caused by radiation. Gofman’s research, published in his book, Preventing Breast Cancer, gives us much to look at and consider. Gofman contends that the resistance to new ideas is one of the major obstacles that keep the public, and women especially, poorly informed about prevention. While we know that good wholesome, organic food is health promoting, we also need to consider the impact of drinking pure water, reducing stress, and getting good exercise. We have to consider the impact of environmental poisons, poisons in food, and the increasing amount of EMF exposure. Specifically these factors co-act with x-rays to make things worse. Much of this research is addressed in the work of Samuel Epstein, MD, of the University of Illinois at Chicago. This is where education and prevention step in. Radiation doses and disease risk can be reduced significantly without reducing the quality of the diagnostic process. This is important because breast tissue is very sensitive to ionizing radiation. Ultrasound and thermography are screening methods that reduce exposure to ionizing radiation. According to Gofman, " if we care about preventing breast cancer, we will establish a relentlessly positive program of measuring and recording x-ray doses, so that physicians and patients will know if the United States is succeeding, or not, in the one known action guaranteed to reduce breast cancer rates. " Dr. John Gofman is Professor Emeritus of Molecular and Cell Biology at the Univ. of California, Berkeley, former director of Biomedical Research at Livermore National Lab, author of three scientific monographs on x-ray health effects, and chair of Citizens for Nuclear Responsibility. The X-rays and Health Project web site is www.X-raysandhealth.org <http://www.x-raysandhealth.org/> ################################################### Check the sites below regarding the location of a qualified breast thermography center nearest you, this information can be found at the following link. If your state or region is not listed on this page, we are not aware of a qualified center in your area at this time. http://www.iact-org.org/thermographer_links.html Thermography is currently an unregulated industry in the U.S.. Consequently, there are no laws governing the levels of training and experience necessary to provide this service. The doctors and technicians listed on this page have all been certified by recognized thermographic professional associations. This list is provided as a starting point for anyone seeking this important service. Other centers may also exist that are not on this list. However, please be sure to check on the credentials of any and all thermographic technicians and interpreters to avoid visiting an untrained or poorly trained provider. Some helpful links on choosing a qualified center - http://www.iact-org.org/unqualified_thermographers.html http://www.iact-org.org/new_thermography_technologies.html http://www.iact-org.org/thermography_guidelines.html If these links have not answered your questions, please resubmit your question to info and we will respond to your email within 72 hours of receipt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Yes, thank you! What a great article. Next time I go to the doctor, I will request that. I'd say it's time for me to go for a checkup, since I haven't been to the doctor for about 25 years. :-) Carol Jan Jenson <vizual [vizual] > Hi Carol, did you see Mysti's post on the Thermography? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 The link to find a liscensed thermography clinic is: www.iact-org.org/link.html The closest one to MS. is either Baton Rouge, LA or Florence Kentucky. I am considering this rather than the " smash and mash " method. My dr wants me to have an MRI instead, since she considers me high risk for reoccurence with all the cysts and fibroids that I have had in my life. Hoping to get rid of that situation. But, thought that you all might like the link anyway. Janna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 It sounds like you are willing to walk a lot of extra miles for your health's sake. Might I also recommend that you find a naturopathic doctor or a chiropractor that has an applied clinical nutrition practice? The VoiceBio machine and the BioMeridian machine both can measure the health of the organ systems in the body, and then print out a list of nutritional supplements to strengthen that organ system. When we see breast cancer, skin problems, digestive problems, for examples, we know that one or more organ systems have been suffering and slowly put in a position to begin failing; this has usually been going on for many years before any disease symptom becomes apparent. The important point is that people w/ disease conditions, with or without the usual medical treatment, are offered nutritional support leading to a stronger, healthier body. Dr. Goebel Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Thank you Janna! The smash and mash method..... I couldn't have said it better myself. LOL! The best thing to do is to give your body perfect alkalinity. This can be done via various methods. I use apple cider vinegar. There are strips that you can buy and test to see where your alkalinity stands. Kind of like a swimming pool. lol Perfect alkalinity. No disease. If you can find True Essential Supplements. They have Mineral ph that also gives you perfect alkalinity. Where there is perfect alkalinity, disease cannot survive. Cancer cannot exist. Before I became acquainted with health supplements I made a decision to die from natural causes rather than be treated by a doctor and their methods. This started my learning curve. I had been having a problem with recurring cysts. Since I have worked on my alkalinity, cysts have disappeared never to resurface again. I beleave olelander gives you perfect alkalinity. We have cures in our kitchen and in our gardens that only cost pennies a day. And they work better than anything. oleander soup , " dreamweavermphs " <cr8iveart wrote: > > The link to find a liscensed thermography clinic is: www.iact- org.org/link.html > The closest one to MS. is either Baton Rouge, LA or Florence Kentucky. I am considering this > rather than the " smash and mash " method. My dr wants me to have an MRI instead, since she > considers me high risk for reoccurence with all the cysts and fibroids that I have had in my > life. Hoping to get rid of that situation. But, thought that you all might like the link anyway. > Janna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 While mammography has it's down sides, I don't think thermography is a great alternative. In the studies assessing it's effectiveness at discerning breast cancer, it preforms poorly compared with mammography which isn't great either. Further, several of my colleagues have reported cases of patients in which malignant breast tumors were missed with thermography. In cases of fibrocystic breasts, thermography may be useful compared to mammography. I can't even site the studies for you because I can't find any on Pub Med. Either, I'm searching incorrectly, or there just hasn't been a lot of research assessing the effectiveness of breast thermography. I think the latter is more likely. I was given the full texts of 2 studies by a thermography clinic here in Tucson. I thought it was odd that the studies they gave me were actually unfavorable. I suppose that's the best they had. ~M At 11:52 AM 6/7/2007, you wrote: The link to find a liscensed thermography clinic is: www.iact-org.org/link.html The closest one to MS. is either Baton Rouge, LA or Florence Kentucky. I am considering this rather than the " smash and mash " method. My dr wants me to have an MRI instead, since she considers me high risk for reoccurence with all the cysts and fibroids that I have had in my life. Hoping to get rid of that situation. But, thought that you all might like the link anyway. Janna ------------------------------- www.DoctorUzick.com ------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 I too have been taking apple cider vinegar twice a day, himalayan salt, sodium bicarbonaye, and msm, as well as b vitamins, but one cyst in my left breast won't go away. i do have the strips. I have a great chiropractor. But as yet have not found any one who could really help with nutrition. i probably need to check and work on the akalinity. Janna > > " May " <luellamay129 > 2007/06/07 Thu PM 03:22:25 EDT > oleander soup > Re: thermography > > Thank you Janna! The smash and mash method..... I couldn't have said > it better myself. LOL! The best thing to do is to give your body > perfect alkalinity. This can be done via various methods. I use apple > cider vinegar. There are strips that you can buy and test to see where > your alkalinity stands. Kind of like a swimming pool. lol Perfect > alkalinity. No disease. If you can find True Essential Supplements. > They have Mineral ph that also gives you perfect alkalinity. Where > there is perfect alkalinity, disease cannot survive. Cancer cannot > exist. > > Before I became acquainted with health supplements I made a decision to > die from natural causes rather than be treated by a doctor and their > methods. This started my learning curve. I had been having a problem > with recurring cysts. Since I have worked on my alkalinity, cysts have > disappeared never to resurface again. I beleave olelander gives you > perfect alkalinity. We have cures in our kitchen and in our gardens > that only cost pennies a day. And they work better than anything. > > > > oleander soup , " dreamweavermphs " <cr8iveart > wrote: > > > > The link to find a liscensed thermography clinic is: www.iact- > org.org/link.html > > The closest one to MS. is either Baton Rouge, LA or Florence > Kentucky. I am considering this > > rather than the " smash and mash " method. My dr wants me to have an > MRI instead, since she > > considers me high risk for reoccurence with all the cysts and > fibroids that I have had in my > > life. Hoping to get rid of that situation. But, thought that you all > might like the link anyway. > > Janna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hi Janna, How long have you been taking these supplements? Also, Dr. Goebel gave wonderful advice on a prior post about seeking out a naturopath. Those machines that he was describing sound amazing. Again, I have learned something new today. Test your alkalinity, keep on taking the apple cider vinegar and seek the advice of a naturopath. In fact, I have contacted a retired naturopath asking him to contribute to The Best Years of Life. I, too, really have a lot to learn. However, my motto is alkaline, alkaline, alkaline. As for the cyst, don't worry about it. It will go away. You are on the right track. oleander soup , <cr8iveart wrote: > > I too have been taking apple cider vinegar twice a day, himalayan salt, sodium bicarbonaye, and > msm, as well as b vitamins, but one cyst in my left breast won't go away. i do have the strips. I have a > great chiropractor. But as yet have not found any one who could really help with nutrition. i probably > need to check and work on the akalinity. Janna > > > > " May " <luellamay129 > > 2007/06/07 Thu PM 03:22:25 EDT > > oleander soup > > Re: thermography > > > > Thank you Janna! The smash and mash method..... I couldn't have said > > it better myself. LOL! The best thing to do is to give your body > > perfect alkalinity. This can be done via various methods. I use apple > > cider vinegar. There are strips that you can buy and test to see where > > your alkalinity stands. Kind of like a swimming pool. lol Perfect > > alkalinity. No disease. If you can find True Essential Supplements. > > They have Mineral ph that also gives you perfect alkalinity. Where > > there is perfect alkalinity, disease cannot survive. Cancer cannot > > exist. > > > > Before I became acquainted with health supplements I made a decision to > > die from natural causes rather than be treated by a doctor and their > > methods. This started my learning curve. I had been having a problem > > with recurring cysts. Since I have worked on my alkalinity, cysts have > > disappeared never to resurface again. I beleave olelander gives you > > perfect alkalinity. We have cures in our kitchen and in our gardens > > that only cost pennies a day. And they work better than anything. > > > > > > > > oleander soup , " dreamweavermphs " <cr8iveart@> > > wrote: > > > > > > The link to find a liscensed thermography clinic is: www.iact- > > org.org/link.html > > > The closest one to MS. is either Baton Rouge, LA or Florence > > Kentucky. I am considering this > > > rather than the " smash and mash " method. My dr wants me to have an > > MRI instead, since she > > > considers me high risk for reoccurence with all the cysts and > > fibroids that I have had in my > > > life. Hoping to get rid of that situation. But, thought that you all > > might like the link anyway. > > > Janna > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 In a message dated 6/7/2007 7:23:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, drlanphier writes: I would strongly urge thorough research into mammography, for those considering its use. Mammography doesn’t have a good track record, radiates the breast and, of course, smashes the tissue which can be very detrimental if cancer is present. Mammography - Myths and AlternativesSee what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2007 Report Share Posted June 8, 2007 For the most part I agree. Thermography requires a very, very experienced professional to read it and even then it is not always beneficial. I would strongly urge thorough research into mammography, for those considering its use. Mammography doesn’t have a good track record, radiates the breast and, of course, smashes the tissue which can be very detrimental if cancer is present. MRI is proving to be very accurate, in my experience with cancer clients. And, of course, the BEST is just plain old prevention. Iodine also plays a very important part in breast health along with making sure hormones are kept in balance, which means being very careful as to what you put “in” your body and what you put “on” you body as in personal care products. Be Well~ Loretta www.oasisadvancedwellness.com Sign-up for our FREE Advanced Health & Wellness Newsletter oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Michael Uzick, N.M.D. Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:46 PM oleander soup Re: re: thermography While mammography has it's down sides, I don't think thermography is a great alternative. In the studies assessing it's effectiveness at discerning breast cancer, it preforms poorly compared with mammography which isn't great either. Further, several of my colleagues have reported cases of patients in which malignant breast tumors were missed with thermography. In cases of fibrocystic breasts, thermography may be useful compared to mammography. I can't even site the studies for you because I can't find any on Pub Med. Either, I'm searching incorrectly, or there just hasn't been a lot of research assessing the effectiveness of breast thermography. I think the latter is more likely. I was given the full texts of 2 studies by a thermography clinic here in Tucson. I thought it was odd that the studies they gave me were actually unfavorable. I suppose that's the best they had. ~M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Tracy and Suzanne (? hope that I got your name right), The dr that I found in TN, north of Nashville in Clarksville, charges $390.00. $300 for the thermography and $90 for the consult for reading it and follow up appointment. The dr visit for the follow up was covered by insurance, so I only paid the copay. It was great not to get squashed!!!! Just research the dr; you want to make sure that he/she does more than a one point reading system (old way and not reliable). There shoud be a series of images: heat view with color after acclimation to temperature, then, exposure to cold and another series of images, including black and white that show the blood vessel in intense contrast because of the cold. It is so worth it. Let me know if you want to discuss this further and we can communicate off group, since this may not be of interest to the rest of the group. Nice to have something that doesn't hurt. Janna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Suz, Talk with the person who is doing the thermography. They should do a consult with you before the thermography, if you call and want more info, maybe even on the phone. They are saying that it shouldn't take the place of a mammogram because it was used when thermography first came out to document disc and spine problems in automobile accidents. And in terms of the insurance industry it turned up too many positives! It reads heat from inflammation - such as disc trauma. But, it was reading problems that didn't show up in x- ray and mri's. So, the medical and insurance communities discredited thermography as " false " science. That was in its' early stages. It is better today and more precise. It can read heat disturbances five to ten years out from when it would turn into something that can be picked up on a traditional mammogram. It uses digital imaging so there is radiation exposure but you are not up next to the machine, you are several feet away. It all depends on how comfortable you are with the results that you get. The tradition drs are the ones who say that you need the mammogram - that it won't take the place of the tradition squash photo/re- squash/re-photo. If the person who does the thermography says that, they are covering their ass, because of the fact that it was discredited not so long ago and they want it to become the next wave for beast cancer detedtion - that is turning into a very slow go. Just check out the person's creditials who is going to be reading your thermography. It is a valid science. Just my thoughts, but you have to do what makes you comfortable in the long run. Janna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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