Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 What is the site that has this forum? This is something I am really battling and working on (thus why I think my baby and I are prone to thrush!) Sindea > I also recommend that people who have candida check out the Candida Forum > on-line, it is one of the best groups and has a wealth of information. I > don't read it anymore since candida is not an issue now, but there were so > many interesting facts about other health issues that I learned there, > probably should check back. > LaHra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Dear Sindea, Candida albacans is present just about everywhere. (There are a lot of other similiar " bad " germs out there it could be too.) From what Ive seen the medical establishment either doesn't acknowledge it as a problem or they want to treat it by trying to kill it with some medicine. This usually results in failure because it would be like trying to kill all of the germs in your house. You might make a dent for awhile but it probably wouldn't work. If you want a magic bullet to take I think you are going to be disappointed. It's not going to kill all of the bad overgrowth of germs in your body. Everytime you take something like anti biotics you are killing all of he good germs that hold the bad ones in check. You have to fight the bad germs with more good ones. Taking many probiotics. Eating good bacteria in big amounts. You cannot kill off all of the good bacteria ( 100's of different varieties in your intestines) and then take an acidophilus tablet only 1 strain to replace 100's of normal bacteria) WE normally have a couple of pounds of bacteria good and bad in our digestive system. The bad ones can be very aggressive and you have to now put back enough to fight and control them again. Make homemade yougurt and kefir. The stuff in the grocery stores are not real anymore. The yougurt is made with thickeners like tapioca, geletin, gum, etc.. It tastes like yougurt, and looks like yougurt but it ain't no real one. It has live cultures in it (enough to be able to say it) but how many is questionable. Look at the back of juice bottles also. When did corn syrup (sugar) become part of juice. It isn't. I hope someone will give you mmore items to help also. give them a little time.OK. kind regards, Frank Gettingwell, sindea.horste@v... wrote: > What is the site that has this forum? This is something I am really > battling and working on (thus why I think my baby and I are prone to > thrush!) > Sindea > > > I also recommend that people who have candida check out the Candida > Forum > > on-line, it is one of the best groups and has a wealth of > information. I > > don't read it anymore since candida is not an issue now, but there > were so > > many interesting facts about other health issues that I learned > there, > > probably should check back. > > LaHra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Thanks! I know all of what you said,lol. I hate antibiotics, but for whatever reason we had 'bugs' this past month that were not going away, and so I gave in. I also did natural support for our immune systems as well, but I know that this antibiotics has taken its toll... I do take the acidophilous (prescribed by an ND) along with some immune boosters... I am trying hard to cut out dairy- I believe it is the culprit of many of my health issues, this yogurt is out for me (not for the baby!)... I have been so horribly sleepy for the past 2 months, that I am trying to figure out what all my body needs me to do/change. I have cut out dairy and am using natural progesterone cream again (I had low levels before my last child, and it helped my fatigue then as well). So, this seems to be helping, along with increasing my water intake. I am going to be keeping a health journal. Maybe after a week or so of it, I will post it and you all can pick me apart! Sindea driving Geoff nuts since 1994... www.sindea.net http://www.homestead.com/sindeadoula/doulahome.html Dear Sindea, Candida albacans is present just about everywhere. (There are a lot of other similiar " bad " germs out there it could be too.) From what Ive seen the medical establishment either doesn't acknowledge it as a problem or they want to treat it by trying to kill it with some medicine. This usually results in failure because it would be like trying to kill all of the germs in your house. You might make a dent for awhile but it probably wouldn't work. If you want a magic bullet to take I think you are going to be disappointed. It's not going to kill all of the bad overgrowth of germs in your body. Everytime you take something like anti biotics you are killing all of he good germs that hold the bad ones in check. You have to fight the bad germs with more good ones. Taking many probiotics. Eating good bacteria in big amounts. You cannot kill off all of the good bacteria ( 100's of different varieties in your intestines) and then take an acidophilus tablet only 1 strain to replace 100's of normal bacteria) WE normally have a couple of pounds of bacteria good and bad in our digestive system. The bad ones can be very aggressive and you have to now put back enough to fight and control them again. Make homemade yougurt and kefir. The stuff in the grocery stores are not real anymore. The yougurt is made with thickeners like tapioca, geletin, gum, etc.. It tastes like yougurt, and looks like yougurt but it ain't no real one. It has live cultures in it (enough to be able to say it) but how many is questionable. Look at the back of juice bottles also. When did corn syrup (sugar) become part of juice. It isn't. I hope someone will give you mmore items to help also. give them a little time.OK. kind regards, Frank Gettingwell, sindea.horste@v... wrote: > What is the site that has this forum? This is something I am really > battling and working on (thus why I think my baby and I are prone to > thrush!) > Sindea > > > I also recommend that people who have candida check out the Candida > Forum > > on-line, it is one of the best groups and has a wealth of > information. I > > don't read it anymore since candida is not an issue now, but there > were so > > many interesting facts about other health issues that I learned > there, > > probably should check back. > > LaHra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Hi Sindea, My late son was prone to thrush as he had to take antibiotics (please don't anyone tell me it was wrong to give him antibiotics - William was prone to catching life threatening bacterial illnesses and yes I did use Colloidal Silver - as far as that could work and no William didn't die from Candida either). I found that many of the paediatricians and nurses in the local hospital (I live in New Zealand) were aware of the connection between antibiotics and Candida (blew me away as they are often not that informed!) so they would prescribe us a good antifungal as well as the antibiotics. The one thing that I found worked really well with William - in terms of treating the Candida - was the use of a good probiotic. It was like 'magic' with William. I also used kolorex cream on any external signs of a yeast infection - like he had it around his nose, sometimes on his bottom etc. I also have suffered from a Candida infection for as long as I can remember. I'm just starting to get better - after following a change in diet that basically removed yeast, vinegar, dairy products (except a good yoghurt with acidophilus and bifidus in it) and sugar (except that contained in fruit but this was and still is limited in my diet). I was using some antifungals but have stopped these as I'm pregnant right now. There is also another list called the Candidiasis List and I have found this very informative as well. Hope this helps in someway! Rebecca T. - <sindea.horste Tuesday, October 30, 2001 7:44 PM Re: candida > What is the site that has this forum? This is something I am really > battling and working on (thus why I think my baby and I are prone to > thrush!) > Sindea > > > I also recommend that people who have candida check out the Candida > Forum > > on-line, it is one of the best groups and has a wealth of > information. I > > don't read it anymore since candida is not an issue now, but there > were so > > many interesting facts about other health issues that I learned > there, > > probably should check back. > > LaHra > > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, please visit > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Please, tell me where I can get Kefir grains. I once tried to get some through a place that was mentioned in the Body Ecology Diet by Donna Gates. When I called, apparently the Kefir suplier was no longer in existance. If any of you have read her book, she basis a ton of her health suggestions on the intake of Kefir (amongst other things). Erica Gettingwell, " P. K. Wagner " <pkwagner00@f...> wrote: > Hi Sindea. I have been taking a probiotic called " Green Probiotics " which > has five different probiotics in it. You need more than one or two strains. > I got this from Vital Health Products, www.vhp4.com. Also, another good > product is Perfect Stool Formula Plus, which also has five different > probiotics. I got this from www.ojibwatea.com. Also, Kefir would be > great. Although kefir is made with milk, people who are allergic to milk > usually are not bothered by kefir. There are lots of us out here who would > be glad to send you some kefir grains. Good luck, Pat > - > " sindea.horste " <sindea.horste@v...> > <Gettingwell> > Monday, October 29, 2001 11:16 PM > Re: Re: candida > > > > Thanks! I know all of what you said,lol. I hate antibiotics, but for > whatever reason we had 'bugs' this past month that were not going away, and > so I gave in. I also did natural support for our immune systems as well, but > I know that this antibiotics has taken its toll... I do take the > acidophilous (prescribed by an ND) along with some immune boosters... I am > trying hard to cut out dairy- I believe it is the culprit of many of my > health issues, this yogurt is out for me (not for the baby!)... > > > > I have been so horribly sleepy for the past 2 months, that I am trying to > figure out what all my body needs me to do/change. I have cut out dairy and > am using natural progesterone cream again (I had low levels before my last > child, and it helped my fatigue then as well). So, this seems to be helping, > along with increasing my water intake. > > > > I am going to be keeping a health journal. Maybe after a week or so of it, > I will post it and you all can pick me apart! > > Sindea > > driving Geoff nuts since 1994... > > www.sindea.net > > http://www.homestead.com/sindeadoula/doulahome.html > > > > > > Dear Sindea, > > Candida albacans is present just about everywhere. (There are a lot of > > other similiar " bad " germs out there it could be too.) From what Ive > > seen the medical establishment either doesn't acknowledge it as a > > problem or they want to treat it by trying to kill it with some > > medicine. > > > > This usually results in failure because it would be like trying to > > kill all of the germs in your house. You might make a dent for awhile > > but it probably wouldn't work. > > > > If you want a magic bullet to take I think you are going to be > > disappointed. It's not going to kill all of the bad overgrowth of > > germs in your body. > > > > Everytime you take something like anti biotics you are killing all of > > he good germs that hold the bad ones in check. > > > > You have to fight the bad germs with more good ones. Taking many > > probiotics. Eating good bacteria in big amounts. > > You cannot kill off all of the good bacteria ( 100's of different > > varieties in your intestines) and then take an acidophilus tablet > > only 1 strain to replace 100's of normal bacteria) > > > > WE normally have a couple of pounds of bacteria good and bad in our > > digestive system. The bad ones can be very aggressive and you have to > > now put back enough to fight and control them again. > > > > Make homemade yougurt and kefir. The stuff in the grocery stores are > > not real anymore. The yougurt is made with thickeners like tapioca, > > geletin, gum, etc.. It tastes like yougurt, and looks like yougurt but > > it ain't no real one. It has live cultures in it (enough to be able to > > say it) but how many is questionable. > > > > Look at the back of juice bottles also. When did corn syrup (sugar) > > become part of juice. It isn't. > > > > I hope someone will give you mmore items to help also. give them a > > little time.OK. > > kind regards, > > Frank > > > > > > > > Gettingwell, sindea.horste@v... wrote: > > > What is the site that has this forum? This is something I am really > > > battling and working on (thus why I think my baby and I are prone to > > > thrush!) > > > Sindea > > > > > > > I also recommend that people who have candida check out the > > Candida > > > Forum > > > > on-line, it is one of the best groups and has a wealth of > > > information. I > > > > don't read it anymore since candida is not an issue now, but there > > > were so > > > > many interesting facts about other health issues that I learned > > > there, > > > > probably should check back. > > > > LaHra > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Gettingwell, putupap20002000 wrote: > Please, tell me where I can get Kefir grains. I once tried to get > some through a place that was mentioned in the Body Ecology Diet by > Donna Gates. When I called, apparently the Kefir suplier was no > longer in existance. If any of you have read her book, she basis a > ton of her health suggestions on the intake of Kefir (amongst other > things). > > Erica Dear Erica, Here is a repost of a previous message. If anyone would like to know all that has beenpoted on this subject, just go to our website at: Gettingwell/ and do a search with the word kefir in the search box aand all of the relative messages will come up. good luck, Frank ################################################################### califpacific Wed Oct 24, 2001 11:27 pm candida sufferers Dear Group, For all of the candida sufferers present (or anyone with intestional problems), here is a different approach. Instead of trying to kill the offending invaders with a " medicine " (prescription or herbal) it is possible to fight with " good " bacteria. Yes, you know about probiotic capsuls or tablets, but have you heard about these? two homegrown liquid probiotics (many people claim health giving properties to both of these substances, but one of the greatest is the high level of good bacteria produced and ingested into your stomach and intestines daily) They are called kefir and kombucha tea. Here are some websites for your perusal. > And the kefir making site at: > http://chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html > > The kombucha sites are at: > Kombucha sites: > http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/PFAQ/homep.htm > http://www.kombu.de/english.htm > You can also order any or all cultures from a place called > GEM cultures at: > G.E.M. Cultures > Betty Stechmyer and Gordon McBride > 30301 Sherwood Road, > Fort Bragg, > CA 95437, > ph. 707 964-2922 > > GEM homepage at: > http://www.mypage.onemain.com/gemculture/ I have no financial interest in either but do make and consume both in my home. Good luck, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Get Kefir grains from: G.E.M. Cultures Betty Stechmyer and Gordon McBride 30301 Sherwood Road, Fort Bragg, CA 95437, ph. 707 964-2922 If you live in U.S.A. If other countries, there is an email address. Also members of the kefir-making group () will send grains. William 30/10/01 1:42:13 PM, putupap20002000 wrote: >Please, tell me where I can get Kefir grains. I once tried to get >some through a place that was mentioned in the Body Ecology Diet by >Donna Gates. When I called, apparently the Kefir suplier was no >longer in existance. If any of you have read her book, she basis a >ton of her health suggestions on the intake of Kefir (amongst other >things). > >Erica > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2001 Report Share Posted October 30, 2001 Hi Sindea. I have been taking a probiotic called " Green Probiotics " which has five different probiotics in it. You need more than one or two strains. I got this from Vital Health Products, www.vhp4.com. Also, another good product is Perfect Stool Formula Plus, which also has five different probiotics. I got this from www.ojibwatea.com. Also, Kefir would be great. Although kefir is made with milk, people who are allergic to milk usually are not bothered by kefir. There are lots of us out here who would be glad to send you some kefir grains. Good luck, Pat - " sindea.horste " <sindea.horste Monday, October 29, 2001 11:16 PM Re: Re: candida > Thanks! I know all of what you said,lol. I hate antibiotics, but for whatever reason we had 'bugs' this past month that were not going away, and so I gave in. I also did natural support for our immune systems as well, but I know that this antibiotics has taken its toll... I do take the acidophilous (prescribed by an ND) along with some immune boosters... I am trying hard to cut out dairy- I believe it is the culprit of many of my health issues, this yogurt is out for me (not for the baby!)... > > I have been so horribly sleepy for the past 2 months, that I am trying to figure out what all my body needs me to do/change. I have cut out dairy and am using natural progesterone cream again (I had low levels before my last child, and it helped my fatigue then as well). So, this seems to be helping, along with increasing my water intake. > > I am going to be keeping a health journal. Maybe after a week or so of it, I will post it and you all can pick me apart! > Sindea > driving Geoff nuts since 1994... > www.sindea.net > http://www.homestead.com/sindeadoula/doulahome.html > > > Dear Sindea, > Candida albacans is present just about everywhere. (There are a lot of > other similiar " bad " germs out there it could be too.) From what Ive > seen the medical establishment either doesn't acknowledge it as a > problem or they want to treat it by trying to kill it with some > medicine. > > This usually results in failure because it would be like trying to > kill all of the germs in your house. You might make a dent for awhile > but it probably wouldn't work. > > If you want a magic bullet to take I think you are going to be > disappointed. It's not going to kill all of the bad overgrowth of > germs in your body. > > Everytime you take something like anti biotics you are killing all of > he good germs that hold the bad ones in check. > > You have to fight the bad germs with more good ones. Taking many > probiotics. Eating good bacteria in big amounts. > You cannot kill off all of the good bacteria ( 100's of different > varieties in your intestines) and then take an acidophilus tablet > only 1 strain to replace 100's of normal bacteria) > > WE normally have a couple of pounds of bacteria good and bad in our > digestive system. The bad ones can be very aggressive and you have to > now put back enough to fight and control them again. > > Make homemade yougurt and kefir. The stuff in the grocery stores are > not real anymore. The yougurt is made with thickeners like tapioca, > geletin, gum, etc.. It tastes like yougurt, and looks like yougurt but > it ain't no real one. It has live cultures in it (enough to be able to > say it) but how many is questionable. > > Look at the back of juice bottles also. When did corn syrup (sugar) > become part of juice. It isn't. > > I hope someone will give you mmore items to help also. give them a > little time.OK. > kind regards, > Frank > > > > Gettingwell, sindea.horste@v... wrote: > > What is the site that has this forum? This is something I am really > > battling and working on (thus why I think my baby and I are prone to > > thrush!) > > Sindea > > > > > I also recommend that people who have candida check out the > Candida > > Forum > > > on-line, it is one of the best groups and has a wealth of > > information. I > > > don't read it anymore since candida is not an issue now, but there > > were so > > > many interesting facts about other health issues that I learned > > there, > > > probably should check back. > > > LaHra > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 All you ever wanted to know about Kefir making & then some: http://chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html _____________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <> > > putupap20002000 > 10/30/2001 6:42:13 PM > Gettingwell > Re: candida > > Please, tell me where I can get Kefir grains. I once tried to get > some through a place that was mentioned in the Body Ecology Diet by > Donna Gates. When I called, apparently the Kefir suplier was no > longer in existance. If any of you have read her book, she basis a > ton of her health suggestions on the intake of Kefir (amongst other > things). > > Erica > > Gettingwell, " P. K. Wagner " wrote: > > Hi Sindea. I have been taking a probiotic called " Green Probiotics " > which > > has five different probiotics in it. You need more than one or two > strains. > > I got this from Vital Health Products, www.vhp4.com. Also, another > good > > product is Perfect Stool Formula Plus, which also has five different > > probiotics. I got this from www.ojibwatea.com. Also, Kefir would > be > > great. Although kefir is made with milk, people who are allergic > to milk > > usually are not bothered by kefir. There are lots of us out here > who would > > be glad to send you some kefir grains. Good luck, Pat > > - > > " sindea.horste " > > To: > > Monday, October 29, 2001 11:16 PM > > Re: Re: candida > > > > > > > Thanks! I know all of what you said,lol. I hate antibiotics, but > for > > whatever reason we had 'bugs' this past month that were not going > away, and > > so I gave in. I also did natural support for our immune systems as > well, but > > I know that this antibiotics has taken its toll... I do take the > > acidophilous (prescribed by an ND) along with some immune > boosters... I am > > trying hard to cut out dairy- I believe it is the culprit of many > of my > > health issues, this yogurt is out for me (not for the baby!)... > > > > > > I have been so horribly sleepy for the past 2 months, that I am > trying to > > figure out what all my body needs me to do/change. I have cut out > dairy and > > am using natural progesterone cream again (I had low levels before > my last > > child, and it helped my fatigue then as well). So, this seems to be > helping, > > along with increasing my water intake. > > > > > > I am going to be keeping a health journal. Maybe after a week or > so of it, > > I will post it and you all can pick me apart! > > > Sindea > > > driving Geoff nuts since 1994... > > > www.sindea.net > > > http://www.homestead.com/sindeadoula/doulahome.html > > > > > > > > > Dear Sindea, > > > Candida albacans is present just about everywhere. (There are a > lot of > > > other similiar " bad " germs out there it could be too.) From > what Ive > > > seen the medical establishment either doesn't acknowledge it as > a > > > problem or they want to treat it by trying to kill it with some > > > medicine. > > > > > > This usually results in failure because it would be like trying > to > > > kill all of the germs in your house. You might make a dent for > awhile > > > but it probably wouldn't work. > > > > > > If you want a magic bullet to take I think you are going to be > > > disappointed. It's not going to kill all of the bad overgrowth > of > > > germs in your body. > > > > > > Everytime you take something like anti biotics you are killing > all of > > > he good germs that hold the bad ones in check. > > > > > > You have to fight the bad germs with more good ones. Taking many > > > probiotics. Eating good bacteria in big amounts. > > > You cannot kill off all of the good bacteria ( 100's of > different > > > varieties in your intestines) and then take an acidophilus > tablet > > > only 1 strain to replace 100's of normal bacteria) > > > > > > WE normally have a couple of pounds of bacteria good and bad in > our > > > digestive system. The bad ones can be very aggressive and you > have to > > > now put back enough to fight and control them again. > > > > > > Make homemade yougurt and kefir. The stuff in the grocery > stores are > > > not real anymore. The yougurt is made with thickeners like > tapioca, > > > geletin, gum, etc.. It tastes like yougurt, and looks like > yougurt but > > > it ain't no real one. It has live cultures in it (enough to be > able to > > > say it) but how many is questionable. > > > > > > Look at the back of juice bottles also. When did corn syrup > (sugar) > > > become part of juice. It isn't. > > > > > > I hope someone will give you mmore items to help also. give > them a > > > little time.OK. > > > kind regards, > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > Gettingwell, sindea.horste@v... wrote: > > > > What is the site that has this forum? This is something I am > really > > > > battling and working on (thus why I think my baby and I are > prone to > > > > thrush!) > > > > Sindea > > > > > > > > > I also recommend that people who have candida check out the > > > Candida > > > > Forum > > > > > on-line, it is one of the best groups and has a wealth of > > > > information. I > > > > > don't read it anymore since candida is not an issue now, > but there > > > > were so > > > > > many interesting facts about other health issues that I > learned > > > > there, > > > > > probably should check back. > > > > > LaHra > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 I went there and you need good luck. It wouldn't take my pass word and then it kept saying the server was down try again later after i spent 10 minuts there already. Sorry just frustrated. Jean - <califpacific Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:01 PM Re: candida > > Gettingwell, putupap20002000 wrote: > > Please, tell me where I can get Kefir grains. I once tried to get > > some through a place that was mentioned in the Body Ecology Diet by > > Donna Gates. When I called, apparently the Kefir suplier was no > > longer in existance. If any of you have read her book, she basis a > > ton of her health suggestions on the intake of Kefir (amongst other > > things). > > > > Erica > > > Dear Erica, > > Here is a repost of a previous message. If anyone would like to know > all that has beenpoted on this subject, just go to our website at: > Gettingwell/ > > and do a search with the word kefir in the search box aand all of the > relative messages will come up. > > good luck, > > Frank > > ################################################################### > > califpacific > Wed Oct 24, 2001 11:27 pm > candida sufferers > Dear Group, > > For all of the candida sufferers present (or anyone with > intestional problems), here is a different approach. > > Instead of trying to kill the offending invaders with a " medicine " > (prescription or herbal) it is possible to fight with " good " bacteria. > > Yes, you know about probiotic capsuls or tablets, but have you > heard about these? > > two homegrown liquid probiotics > (many people claim health giving properties to both of these > substances, but one of the greatest is the high level of good bacteria > produced and ingested into your stomach and intestines daily) > > They are called kefir and kombucha tea. Here are some websites for > your perusal. > > > > And the kefir making site at: > > http://chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html > > > > The kombucha sites are at: > > > Kombucha sites: > > http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/PFAQ/homep.htm > > http://www.kombu.de/english.htm > > > > You can also order any or all cultures from a place called > > GEM cultures at: > > G.E.M. Cultures > > Betty Stechmyer and Gordon McBride > > 30301 Sherwood Road, > > Fort Bragg, > > CA 95437, > > ph. 707 964-2922 > > > > GEM homepage at: > > http://www.mypage.onemain.com/gemculture/ > > I have no financial interest in either but do make and consume both > in my home. > > Good luck, > Frank > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, please visit > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 has a kefir_making list that you could join and just ask for grains. Your'll get lots of answers. Pat - <putupap20002000 Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:42 AM Re: candida > Please, tell me where I can get Kefir grains. I once tried to get > some through a place that was mentioned in the Body Ecology Diet by > Donna Gates. When I called, apparently the Kefir suplier was no > longer in existance. If any of you have read her book, she basis a > ton of her health suggestions on the intake of Kefir (amongst other > things). > > Erica > > Gettingwell, " P. K. Wagner " <pkwagner00@f...> wrote: > > Hi Sindea. I have been taking a probiotic called " Green Probiotics " > which > > has five different probiotics in it. You need more than one or two > strains. > > I got this from Vital Health Products, www.vhp4.com. Also, another > good > > product is Perfect Stool Formula Plus, which also has five different > > probiotics. I got this from www.ojibwatea.com. Also, Kefir would > be > > great. Although kefir is made with milk, people who are allergic > to milk > > usually are not bothered by kefir. There are lots of us out here > who would > > be glad to send you some kefir grains. Good luck, Pat > > - > > " sindea.horste " <sindea.horste@v...> > > <Gettingwell> > > Monday, October 29, 2001 11:16 PM > > Re: Re: candida > > > > > > > Thanks! I know all of what you said,lol. I hate antibiotics, but > for > > whatever reason we had 'bugs' this past month that were not going > away, and > > so I gave in. I also did natural support for our immune systems as > well, but > > I know that this antibiotics has taken its toll... I do take the > > acidophilous (prescribed by an ND) along with some immune > boosters... I am > > trying hard to cut out dairy- I believe it is the culprit of many > of my > > health issues, this yogurt is out for me (not for the baby!)... > > > > > > I have been so horribly sleepy for the past 2 months, that I am > trying to > > figure out what all my body needs me to do/change. I have cut out > dairy and > > am using natural progesterone cream again (I had low levels before > my last > > child, and it helped my fatigue then as well). So, this seems to be > helping, > > along with increasing my water intake. > > > > > > I am going to be keeping a health journal. Maybe after a week or > so of it, > > I will post it and you all can pick me apart! > > > Sindea > > > driving Geoff nuts since 1994... > > > www.sindea.net > > > http://www.homestead.com/sindeadoula/doulahome.html > > > > > > > > > Dear Sindea, > > > Candida albacans is present just about everywhere. (There are a > lot of > > > other similiar " bad " germs out there it could be too.) From > what Ive > > > seen the medical establishment either doesn't acknowledge it as > a > > > problem or they want to treat it by trying to kill it with some > > > medicine. > > > > > > This usually results in failure because it would be like trying > to > > > kill all of the germs in your house. You might make a dent for > awhile > > > but it probably wouldn't work. > > > > > > If you want a magic bullet to take I think you are going to be > > > disappointed. It's not going to kill all of the bad overgrowth > of > > > germs in your body. > > > > > > Everytime you take something like anti biotics you are killing > all of > > > he good germs that hold the bad ones in check. > > > > > > You have to fight the bad germs with more good ones. Taking many > > > probiotics. Eating good bacteria in big amounts. > > > You cannot kill off all of the good bacteria ( 100's of > different > > > varieties in your intestines) and then take an acidophilus > tablet > > > only 1 strain to replace 100's of normal bacteria) > > > > > > WE normally have a couple of pounds of bacteria good and bad in > our > > > digestive system. The bad ones can be very aggressive and you > have to > > > now put back enough to fight and control them again. > > > > > > Make homemade yougurt and kefir. The stuff in the grocery > stores are > > > not real anymore. The yougurt is made with thickeners like > tapioca, > > > geletin, gum, etc.. It tastes like yougurt, and looks like > yougurt but > > > it ain't no real one. It has live cultures in it (enough to be > able to > > > say it) but how many is questionable. > > > > > > Look at the back of juice bottles also. When did corn syrup > (sugar) > > > become part of juice. It isn't. > > > > > > I hope someone will give you mmore items to help also. give > them a > > > little time.OK. > > > kind regards, > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > Gettingwell, sindea.horste@v... wrote: > > > > What is the site that has this forum? This is something I am > really > > > > battling and working on (thus why I think my baby and I are > prone to > > > > thrush!) > > > > Sindea > > > > > > > > > I also recommend that people who have candida check out the > > > Candida > > > > Forum > > > > > on-line, it is one of the best groups and has a wealth of > > > > information. I > > > > > don't read it anymore since candida is not an issue now, > but there > > > > were so > > > > > many interesting facts about other health issues that I > learned > > > > there, > > > > > probably should check back. > > > > > LaHra > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 I also used kolorex cream on any external signs of a yeast infection - like he had it around his nose, sometimes on his bottom etc. What kind of signs do you see on the skin that show a yeast infection? Henrietta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 Crusty yellowy stuff - and sometimes it smelled like yeast. William used to have this crusty stuff around his nose and his eyes. On the bottom William would have red dots to indicate thrush. Rebecca T. - " Henrietta Colwell " <hcolwell Thursday, November 08, 2001 11:12 AM RE: Re: candida > > > > I also used kolorex cream on any external signs of a yeast > infection - like he had it around his nose, sometimes on his bottom etc. > > > What kind of signs do you see on the skin that show a yeast infection? > Henrietta > > > > Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health > and well being. > > To learn more about the Gettingwell group, > Subscription and list archives are at: > Gettingwell > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 , Majormom11 <kkunz@d...> wrote: > So, I put him on a strict gluten, sugar, dairy, and wheat free I limit nuts, mushrooms, starches and yeast. I found yeast free kamut bread by Pacific Bakery. The breads are simple but so good.The kamut white I eat is organic kamut flour, water and salt. I do have a yeast product now and then say once a month I ave a vegan-jerkey snack with a bit of yeast. But I make sure that it is limited. I am vegan so I eat a lot of soy, corn, beans, rasins, lentils. I am not one for sugar but do have a cookie daily from Alternative Baking Company. My other snack of choice is Boulder Bars in berry or a serving of rasins. > He takes about 5 different natural meds. Like bidifolus, caprylic acid, garlic, etc... I did not even need the supplements to cure it after watching my diet. I had candida bad to! I have not had it in years! > He only drinks water, limited to one fruit every other day..I just started him on colon/fiber cleanse, along with myself. Everything seesm to be going good there. He only has one serving of fruit every other day? This seems a bit off. Fruit is not really a problem when it comes to candida. It is the starches, sugars and junk food. Also other drink options could be fresh fruit-soy smoothies and soy-milk shakes. I drink water though (bottled not tap) and have a smoothie now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 I had candida twice very badly and cured it with large doses of Solar Rays Caprylic acid and other alkalanizing foods and supplements. You could use liquid oxygen drops and megahydryn. Lemon is also very alkalanizing. Laura --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 When my twins were born they had thrush and yeast infections , my doctor had me start them on yogurt immediately at 2 days old, since then that is what I use and for the one that wont eat yogurt anymore ( teens taste change daily..lol) I use Acidophilus Tablets espcially if one absolutly has to take a antibiotic( keflex and sulfa based ones are the worse offenders) . I have one now who is prone to candida due to her sudden high intake of soda ( she has a job now and pigs out on soda while at work..lol .cant watch them all the time..lol) , Anna <aljuarez@z...> wrote: > Welcome, Kristy!! I'm sure that you'll like this group! > > Say, what did you use for the candida? If you ever look in our archives, > you'll see that various folks have discussed candida in the past but we're > always open to new things. > > - Anna > > > > At 06:54 PM 12/30/02 -0600, Kristy wrote: > >HI everyone! > >I am brand new to this group and I just wanted to introduce myself. > >I'm Kristy, 34, married and am a stay at home mom to 2 boys. > >I completely believe in everything alternative medicine. > >My youngest son has had problems with candida yeast since he was born, > >and after 6 1/2 years of putting him on meds etc, I went alternative, > >and he is doing wondeful now! > >My boys and I just started a colon/fiber daily cleanse from Aim Co. > >Not to mention all the aroimatherapoy and everything... > >I'm glad to have found this group:-) > >Kristy > > > ******************************************************** > > Learn more about the way enzymes can change your life! Remember, not all > enzymes are created equal! Check out the special report on enzymes and " The > Ultimate Enzyme " at: > http://www.ubiquitousonline.com/reports/enzymes_enzym_mail.rep/SelfHel p > > To order THE ULTIMATE ENZYME, a unique proprietary formula that's been > getting people amazing results; powerful pro-biotics; minerals specially > formulated so your body can utilize them; a colon cleanser that actually > restores normal functioning; enzymes and pro-biotics for your pets; or our > many other alternative health products, visit: > http://www.selfhelp.ubiquitousonline.com/ > > To learn more about enzymes, including the Ultimate Enzyme, visit: > http://www.ubiquitousonline.com/enzymes.rep/selfhelp > > ******************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 Does acidophilous help with alkalinity? Karima __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2002 Report Share Posted December 31, 2002 HI Kristy....I was lucky enough that the doctor I had was into natural ways before heading for medicines...he and his wife( his nurse/midwife) even taught me how to do infant massage when the twins got colic , they are the ones who really got me started back then...and people(including my family, though they are slowly becoming believers ..lol) still think I am nuts when I head for the natural way before anything else . , Majormom11 <kkunz@d...> wrote: > Oh man! Do I know what that was like! > My son also had C-diff when he was 18 months. Which was a bacteria in his colon. > The lab tech tipped me off it looks like candida. And being much younger and stupider back then, when I brought it up to the doctor, they told me I was crazy!( they still tell me that but now I know I'm not!) > I still get upset thinking I could have solved the problem back when he was 18 months instead of 7! My son use to full force vomit 10 times a day all the way up to a year ago. > When he was year old and starting solids, I would have 2 plates. ONe with his food, and one for vomit. We went to specialists, had upper GI's done. Everyone thought I was nuts, and was told this was normal, and that I was imagining it! And then when I started him on natural stuff, within 1 week, he was completely changed...stopped vomiting, no more bowel accidents, no more bloating... I was told it was a cocidence, and that he grew out of it. > I just wish I would have found natural healing earlier in my life! > Kristy > > Message: 14 > Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:36:48 -0000 > " Lisa <buzzsweetness> " <buzzsweetness> > Re: Candida > > When my twins were born they had thrush and yeast infections , my > doctor had me start them on yogurt immediately at 2 days old, since > then that is what I use and for the one that wont eat yogurt anymore > ( teens taste change daily..lol) I use Acidophilus Tablets espcially > if one absolutly has to take a antibiotic( keflex and sulfa based > ones are the worse offenders) . I have one now who is prone to > candida due to her sudden high intake of soda ( she has a job now and > pigs out on soda while at work..lol .cant watch them all the > time..lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Lisa, For the people who think you are nuts for using the natural things first...ask them, what did people use 100 years ago for such and such? There are so many things that we have gotten away from that worked so much better than any chemical made medicine!! Annie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2003 Report Share Posted January 1, 2003 Annie ...I do tell them that...I kinda get on a soap box when I start talking to others about natural ways of doing things..lol...you should have seen how people looked at me ( including the child I used it on..lol)when I used castor oil and duct tape to get rid of planters warts..but they quit laughing when they saw it worked ..lol ..I am lucky though , my mom and one of my sisters are believers in natural and alternative ways also ,so we can exchange ideas, recipes and info , when we find something that works and think the others may use it. ....Lisa , " Ann <spiritwynd39> " <spiritwynd39> wrote: > Lisa, > > For the people who think you are nuts for using the natural things > first...ask them, what did people use 100 years ago for such and > such? There are so many things that we have gotten away from that > worked so much better than any chemical made medicine!! > > Annie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2003 Report Share Posted November 8, 2003 Thanks all for answering my post. I guess I've heard what I was hoping to hear... Anyway Misty concerning your question about self diagnosing, one of the first things I thought is maybe I'm thinking I got it coz I just learned of it. But I dont think this is the case here and also on the list got 158 points. I have the problem of not eating as I should for a long time, craving large amounts of chocolate and shugar in general (never gainig any waight) and so on. Few years ago I really felt down, sleepy and weak so I did a blood test which shown that I'm perfectly healthy... Surely I have some more simptoms but you get the picture. -- In , " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke> wrote: > Hi... > > Rather than trying to " kill the candida " I would offer a " heal the > whole system " approach. Candida is larger than just yeast, and I > think people can get focused on " candida, candida, candida... " but > it is only the symptom of a larger system imbalance. One of the > reasons it is so " hard to treat " according to many is, in my > opinion, because of that narrow view. So anything that improves the > body as a whole, and obviously including digestion and elimination > is a good thing. > > I think you are on the right track... Juice fasting, and I would > start with wheatgrass juice, is a great way to go... Perhaps also > include a one day a week water fast... I would also drink a gallon > of water within 1/2hr. of waking, and another gallon through out the > day... I know that sounds impossible, but if people did it, I think > the whole face of health would change. > > I would also ask what makes you think you do have candida? What are > the specific symptoms? The reason I ask, is by treating those > symptoms homeopathically, not only would those expressions of > disease become better, but it would also strengthen the system as a > whole. > > We have been so programmed to think treating symptoms is bad. > Suppressing symptoms is bad, but in reality treating them is very > good. Why? Because those individual symptoms are what give us > insight into the larger picture. By treating them, our foot is in > the door that allows us to access and strengthen the larger, > underlying health picture. > > The other reason I ask, and please don't take this in the wrong way, > is because many new practitioners, myself included, will often self- > diagnose themselves to have what they have recently studied. For > example, when studying homeopathy I would think, " Man, that is my > remedy, it fits me to a tee " , that was until I studied the next two > or three remedies and I would say to myself, " Hmm, that sounds like > me too " ... That is not to say you don't have candida, or that was > not the perfect remedy for me, but just take it with a grain of salt > as you go along... > > But if you follow the: " improve the whole approach " , you will win > either way. > > I hope that helps... > > Be Well, > Misty L. Trepke > http://www..com > > > , " HolyWar_1 " > <holywar_1> wrote: > > Hi all, I've startsd studying naturopathy just 2 weeks ago. Now > at > > the first lesson we covered the candida. By the siptoms I'm pretty > > sure I've got it. Now as the cure for this I must undertake a > special > > diet for 6 month without any kind of shugars and some food > > supplements to kill the candida and some to help the body with the > > poison it secrets wile diying. I wonder if juice fasting can > somehow > > help on this metter. Thanks in advance and if this is a dumb > question > > just tell me sorry I'm new at this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Kelly- thank you! I'll ask around if anyone knows of any suggestions, systemic candida is a tough one. You might have already seen this link: http://chetday.com/candida3.html Also have you tried: Pau d'arco http://rain-tree.com/paudarco.htm It's supposed to be good for parasites, yeast and fungal infections. I was just in Peru in the jungle. It's amazing the healing properties of the plants there. Regards,Lizzie "Kelly W." <kellykebby wrote: Thanks for posting Lizzie! I'm battling systemic candida now and even fruit screws me up.Welcome to the group. Kel Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 Kel, I have the same problem; I’m looking into doing Dr. Schulze’s 30-day healing program (www.herbdoc.com) Does anyone in the group have experience with this program? Amelia On Behalf Of Elizabeth Lochner Saturday, September 29, 2007 11:38 AM Re: candida Kelly- thank you! I'll ask around if anyone knows of any suggestions, systemic candida is a tough one. You might have already seen this link: http://chetday.com/candida3.html Also have you tried: Pau d'arco http://rain-tree.com/paudarco.htm It's supposed to be good for parasites, yeast and fungal infections. I was just in Peru in the jungle. It's amazing the healing properties of the plants there. Regards,Lizzie " Kelly W. " <kellykebby > wrote: Thanks for posting Lizzie! I'm battling systemic candida now and even fruit screws me up. Welcome to the group. Kel Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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