Medical Study: Untreated Cancer Patients Live Longer

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No, it isn't. Not butting in......

 

Roger

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Carol Minnick

Friday, August 15, 2003 11:05 PM

RE: [s-A] [AltMedForum] Medical Study: Untreated Cancer Patients Live

Longer

 

 

Roger - if I may - can I butt in here a second? The disease you

mentioned that your daughter has - it is by any chance " Goodpasture's

Syndrome " ?

 

Carol

 

Roger Kimble [rzk357]

Friday, August 15, 2003 10:26 PM

Re: [s-A] [AltMedForum] Medical Study: Untreated Cancer

Patients Live Longer

 

Kathy,

 

Going to try and answer as best I can, but also as straight-forward as I

can as well. This is not personal, and is not meant as anything against

anyone personally. I will be cutting the non-essential out of your

letter and commenting on what is left. Makes it easier for all. I am

underlined, at least on my computer as I write this.

 

 

 

 

 

I believe the author of the note was looking narrowly at the medical

community only, not alternatives. I got that he was saying no treatment

is better than what the medical community offers for cancer.

 

This is what I attempted to point out to the doc that wrote in and

flamed me. He (original post) did not mention alternative treatment at

all in the website he had. (original posting) But again, to say that no

treatment is better than what the med community offers is just

silliness, founded upon ignorance. This is not to say that there are

not alternate ways of treating cancer. There are! But to say, as he

did, that no treatment is better is just absurd to the nth degree. Not

even worth the time time it takes to defend this statement.

 

 

I have a question for you Roger...are you depressed?

 

:):) Let me answer by asking a question. This is not

considered good form, but forgive me. I have cancer and diabetes, my

wife has had two bouts of bladder cancer, half her thyroid taken out,

and our 27 year old daughter was stricken at age 19 with a disease so

rare that only 200 people in the world have been diagnosed with it. It

has left her disabled, unable to care for her daily needs, unable to

work, most days spent either in bed or sitting reading in a special

chair at the kitchen table. She has a constant pain level of about 7 or

8, spiking to 9 at times, out of 10. This is 24/7. No research is

being done on the disease, because there is no money in it, not enough

people have it. We have been to the " best " hospitals and med centers.

Would you be " somewhat " depressed?

 

Interestingly, I have been told that you cannot get cancer without

depression, a death wish.

 

Again, so utterly foolish as to not be worthy of a reply. What about

babies that have cancer? What about happy, well-rounded youths that rae

stricken? Your answer would be, I suppose, that we don't know if they

were depressed. My reply wuld be I have helped bury friends that died

of cancer and I know they were not depressed. The whole supposition is

just silly. Don't believe evrything someone tells you. Gullibility is

rampant in this country, please don't add to it.

 

 

Both are of the philosophy that given the opportunity the body can

heal itself.

 

Truly, the body is capable of things that are just amazing. But it

can only do so much by itself. If you were shot in the chest with a

...357 Magnum, would you really expect the body to handle this on it's

own? I think not, and some diseases are like being shot. The body does

all it can do, but sometimes it is not enough.

 

 

And the more I see as I research things, the more I believe that our

emotions have EVERYTHING to do with our diseases and illnesses.

 

I agree emotions play a vital role in our well-being, but they do not

control everything. Happy people would never die, of a disease or

illness, if that were the case, and we know that everyone will die.

 

Roger