Medical Study: Untreated Cancer Patients Live Longer

[Guest guest]

I believe the author of the note was looking narrowly at the medical community

only, not alternatives. I got that he was saying no treatment is better than

what the medical community offers for cancer.I have a question for you

Roger...are you depressed? Think it through thoroughly before you answer.

Interestingly, I have been told that you cannot get cancer without depression, a

death wish. If the death wish is removed I believe the cancer will be

defeated.I've been learning Natural Healing and intend to learn Total Body

Modification. Both are of the philosophy that given the opportunity the body

can heal itself. And the more I see as I research things, the more I believe

that our emotions have EVERYTHING to do with our diseases and illnesses. One

book that I highly recommend that everyone read is called " Feelings Buried Alive

Never Die... " by Karol Kuhn Truman. The book is absolutely fascinating and

brings home a lot of good information about us as human beings, and the

causes of dis-ease and illness. It's only $13-15 and worth every penny.Kat

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I was just wondering because what you described sounded very similar to

what my next door neighbor had - Goodpasture's is also very rare.

Carol

 

 

Roger Kimble [rzk357]

Friday, August 15, 2003 11:08 PM

 

Re: [s-A] [AltMedForum] Medical Study: Untreated Cancer

Patients Live Longer

 

No, it isn't. Not butting in......

 

Roger

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Carol Minnick

Friday, August 15, 2003 11:05 PM

RE: [s-A] [AltMedForum] Medical Study: Untreated Cancer

Patients Live Longer

 

 

Roger - if I may - can I butt in here a second? The disease you

mentioned that your daughter has - it is by any chance " Goodpasture's

Syndrome " ?

 

Carol

 

Roger Kimble [rzk357]

Friday, August 15, 2003 10:26 PM

Re: [s-A] [AltMedForum] Medical Study: Untreated Cancer

Patients Live Longer

 

Kathy,

 

Going to try and answer as best I can, but also as straight-forward as

I

can as well. This is not personal, and is not meant as anything

against

anyone personally. I will be cutting the non-essential out of your

letter and commenting on what is left. Makes it easier for all. I am

underlined, at least on my computer as I write this.

 

 

 

 

 

I believe the author of the note was looking narrowly at the medical

community only, not alternatives. I got that he was saying no

treatment

is better than what the medical community offers for cancer.

 

This is what I attempted to point out to the doc that wrote in and

flamed me. He (original post) did not mention alternative treatment

at

all in the website he had. (original posting) But again, to say that

no

treatment is better than what the med community offers is just

silliness, founded upon ignorance. This is not to say that there are

not alternate ways of treating cancer. There are! But to say, as he

did, that no treatment is better is just absurd to the nth degree.

Not

even worth the time time it takes to defend this statement.

 

 

I have a question for you Roger...are you depressed?

 

:):) Let me answer by asking a question. This is not

considered good form, but forgive me. I have cancer and diabetes, my

wife has had two bouts of bladder cancer, half her thyroid taken out,

and our 27 year old daughter was stricken at age 19 with a disease so

rare that only 200 people in the world have been diagnosed with it.

It

has left her disabled, unable to care for her daily needs, unable to

work, most days spent either in bed or sitting reading in a special

chair at the kitchen table. She has a constant pain level of about 7

or

8, spiking to 9 at times, out of 10. This is 24/7. No research is

being done on the disease, because there is no money in it, not enough

people have it. We have been to the " best " hospitals and med centers.

Would you be " somewhat " depressed?

 

Interestingly, I have been told that you cannot get cancer without

depression, a death wish.

 

Again, so utterly foolish as to not be worthy of a reply. What

about

babies that have cancer? What about happy, well-rounded youths that

rae

stricken? Your answer would be, I suppose, that we don't know if they

were depressed. My reply wuld be I have helped bury friends that died

of cancer and I know they were not depressed. The whole supposition

is

just silly. Don't believe evrything someone tells you. Gullibility

is

rampant in this country, please don't add to it.

 

 

Both are of the philosophy that given the opportunity the body

can

heal itself.

 

Truly, the body is capable of things that are just amazing. But

it

can only do so much by itself. If you were shot in the chest with a

...357 Magnum, would you really expect the body to handle this on it's

own? I think not, and some diseases are like being shot. The body

does

all it can do, but sometimes it is not enough.

 

 

And the more I see as I research things, the more I believe that

our

emotions have EVERYTHING to do with our diseases and illnesses.

 

I agree emotions play a vital role in our well-being, but they do

not

control everything. Happy people would never die, of a disease or

illness, if that were the case, and we know that everyone will die.

 

Roger