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I would assume that the " dragon " therapy your practitioner is speaking of

are two protocols used called Internal and External Dragons. This is a

treatment that is often used in the 5 Element Acupuncture Tradition. They

both involve a series of 7 needles placed in particular points and retained

there for a period of time. The dragon is a powerful protector in Chinese

mythology and is not to be feared. The " internal dragons " relate to

internal angst or anxieties or emotional level " blocks " that are preventing

the person from living a life of balance because of an obstruction of Chi at

the deeper levels of Mind or Spirit. The " external dragons " are used to

remove blocks obstructing the wei levels of chi, that have been cause by

external/environmental circumstances (i.e. toxic chemicals, traumas, drugs,

accidents etc.) that may not have penetrated into the deepest regions of

that person to warrant ID's (internal dragons). Sometimes both protocols

are used - starting with ID's and moving to ED's. These treatments can

help to restore a level of functioning that the person may not have ever

experienced or may not have able to have in a number of years. They are a

powerful tool that have brought remarkable shifts in my patients, when

needed. Generally, though I do not tell the patients about this. If they

ask about the TX I will say, it will help them relax on a deeper level.

That generally is enough. The concepts of dragons has already raised your

anxiety!! Hope this helps.

 

Aloha,

Janine

 

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Can anyone please explain dragon therapy to me??? I have seen an

acupuncturist 3 times now and he is talking of doing this next time

if I don't get relief from my anxiety. This sounds kinda scary to

me. Any help from any of you would be greatly appreciated!!!

 

 

 

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Friday, February 16, 2001 8:22 AM

acupuncture question

 

 

> Can anyone please explain dragon therapy to me??? I have seen an

> acupuncturist 3 times now and he is talking of doing this next time

> if I don't get relief from my anxiety. This sounds kinda scary to

> me. Any help from any of you would be greatly appreciated!!!

>

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Hi Misty,

 

I agree with you, but if Roger is a bit sensitive about telling anyone his

family problems online (many of us might be), then I'd rather help him

offline than not at all--if he wants help of course!

 

Yep, I'm not selling anything. Might mention my book later though. :-)

 

Peace,

Patricia.

 

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> " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke

> Don't Take Advice to Off-List Conversations Please

>

> Dear Patricia,

>

> Yours is a kind offer to help Rodger, and actually part of the

> reason this site was created... So we could help each other and

> learn together... Please do not make the offer to talk off list,

> since that defeats one of the reasons we have all come here

> together...

>

> I know I have had problems with people trying to sell their services

> or products, I trust that your intentions are higher than that...

>

> Be Well,

> Misty L. Trepke

> http://www..com

>

> , " patricia skinner "

> <nimer99@j...> wrote:

> > Dear Roger,

> >

> > I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. I can't imagine how

> heart breaking

> > that must be. I'm a mother (even new grandmother) myself, and know

> that

> > nothing kills you more than misfortune to yourself apart from

> mistfortune to

> > your children. My eldest daughter is also 27, and had both her

> babies at

> > Wake medical center. You must be in N.C.

> >

>

>

>

>>

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Hi people. Back from the dephts where I had to lurk while finishing an

article for a book about acupuncture and CM that'll come out next year. Will

be pretty interesting, five articles ranging from the cosmological aspects

of CM to the results of a research by Rio de Janeiro Federal University

Neurology Institute on developing correct strategies to research acupuncture

effects on human physiology. BTW, we still don't have a title for the book!

Subtitle is " studies in acupuncture and chinese medicine " . Suggestions are

welcome, we'd like to avoid the " doctoral thesis " flavor... but what brings

me here is:

 

" Message: 13

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Re: CM ?

 

I'm not sure that this upheaval and change is not itself the Chinese

Tradition.

doug "

 

Doug, I think there is a difference between what we see today (i.e., the

suppression of certain areas of chinese medical thought because they don't

agree (in the digestive sense!) with the political agenda of post-rev China)

with the usual process of paradigm-melding typical of chinese medical

thought history, because now that trait so pronounced in chinese culture -

respect if not outright veneration for the past (masters, classics) - is

replaced by a clearly western concept of " progress " in the

" more-modern-is-best " style, with " more modern " being of course a version of

chinese medicine " free of feudal supertion ultimately designed to keep the

working masses ignorant/subservient " . In Sivin's excellent book on the

" Revised Outline " (Traditional in Contemporary China,

University of Michigan Center for Chinese Studies, 1987) we find a wealth of

illustrarions of this process. However, we must never mistake state policies

for what actually happens among the practitioners. They are, in China more

than anywhere else, adept at hiding their ideas and methods from statal

scrutiny, keeping alive many traditions throught the medium of

master-disciple teatching... the real teatching that happens outside

university walls at the master's house between teacups. Of course, this kind

of teatching is nearly inaccessible, because it depends first of all of

being there, wich may be pretty difficult for many talented new-to-the-field

acupuncturists (etc), and secondly and perhaps even more difficult it

depends on gaining the master's trust, wich has nothing to do with said

master warm-heartedness and solicitude. Being a non-chinese, in my

experience, doesn't further your cause any, either. As I see it, then, this

new TCM is more virulent in its intent of destroying and de-legitimizing

much of the past lore of healing chinese arts than formerly were new

emerging paradigms/ideas in chinese medical history, possibly because these

didn't have such a massive statal power backing them. But, as Pierre pointed

out, CM may be like pizza - some of the best recipes now are extant only

outside Italy... but pizza is nevertheless everywhere. That's where internet

and groups like ours come in bringing really new possibilities for the good

guys (us!) to become organized and to circulate knowledge in truly

revolutionary ways.

 

My best to you all

Daniel Luz

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I pretty much agree. I just see an irony in people decrying the Chinese

government's

CM policies when I see huge hospitals serving patients everyday with Chinese

Medicine. My question is, Can these " masses " , if you will, be served by the

ancient

traditions?

The dermatology department where I was, joked about how they have been so busy

lately because of the prosperity that allowed people to focus on the admitadely

more

minor cosmetological, (not cosmological) aspects of their lives.

From here in USA, we always get the " pure " forms of the religious and political

movements that weren't allowed in their own countries. People are always shocked

to

go back to their countries of their heritage and find that the " roots " are gone.

Just as

Chinese doctors come here and find that they have to actually practice Chinese

Medicine.

doug

 

As I see it, then, this

> new TCM is more virulent in its intent of destroying and de-legitimizing

> much of the past lore of healing chinese arts than formerly were new

> emerging paradigms/ideas in chinese medical history, possibly because these

> didn't have such a massive statal power backing them. But, as Pierre pointed

> out, CM may be like pizza - some of the best recipes now are extant only

> outside Italy... but pizza is nevertheless everywhere. That's where internet

> and groups like ours come in bringing really new possibilities for the good

> guys (us!) to become organized and to circulate knowledge in truly

> revolutionary ways.

>

> My best to you all

> Daniel Luz

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A comment on ears. When I fly, I make sure I "clear" with any of the techniques

Doc mentioned several times before we leave the ground when flying, before I

hit the water when diving. Then I keep doing it often during take-off/entry.

I am alert to any descent of the plane and doing a valsava maneuver (exerting

pressure to the poppin point) immediately. When I fly to Europe, I try to get a

shorter leg to start with. I find that after one ascent and descent, it gets much

easier for the next one(s). You make the eardrums more "patent" (flexible)

each time you do the valsalva.

I also had an ENT tell me to use nasal spray before takeoff if necessary, and throw

the stuff away after the trip. When I am congested already, I do that. And I keep

the same bottle for re-use as I just avoid using it unless I fly.

Sue

 

 

 

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