Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 I would assume that the " dragon " therapy your practitioner is speaking of are two protocols used called Internal and External Dragons. This is a treatment that is often used in the 5 Element Acupuncture Tradition. They both involve a series of 7 needles placed in particular points and retained there for a period of time. The dragon is a powerful protector in Chinese mythology and is not to be feared. The " internal dragons " relate to internal angst or anxieties or emotional level " blocks " that are preventing the person from living a life of balance because of an obstruction of Chi at the deeper levels of Mind or Spirit. The " external dragons " are used to remove blocks obstructing the wei levels of chi, that have been cause by external/environmental circumstances (i.e. toxic chemicals, traumas, drugs, accidents etc.) that may not have penetrated into the deepest regions of that person to warrant ID's (internal dragons). Sometimes both protocols are used - starting with ID's and moving to ED's. These treatments can help to restore a level of functioning that the person may not have ever experienced or may not have able to have in a number of years. They are a powerful tool that have brought remarkable shifts in my patients, when needed. Generally, though I do not tell the patients about this. If they ask about the TX I will say, it will help them relax on a deeper level. That generally is enough. The concepts of dragons has already raised your anxiety!! Hope this helps. Aloha, Janine There are 2 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. question wolf 2. Please remove me " chip biggs " <c.biggs ______________________ ______________________ Message: 1 Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:22:40 -0000 wolf question Can anyone please explain dragon therapy to me??? I have seen an acupuncturist 3 times now and he is talking of doing this next time if I don't get relief from my anxiety. This sounds kinda scary to me. Any help from any of you would be greatly appreciated!!! ______________________ ______________________ Message: 2 Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:02:13 -0500 " chip biggs " <c.biggs Please remove me Remove me from the list thanks - <wolf <acupuncture > Friday, February 16, 2001 8:22 AM acupuncture question > Can anyone please explain dragon therapy to me??? I have seen an > acupuncturist 3 times now and he is talking of doing this next time > if I don't get relief from my anxiety. This sounds kinda scary to > me. Any help from any of you would be greatly appreciated!!! > > > > > > ______________________ ______________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 Hi Misty, I agree with you, but if Roger is a bit sensitive about telling anyone his family problems online (many of us might be), then I'd rather help him offline than not at all--if he wants help of course! Yep, I'm not selling anything. Might mention my book later though. :-) Peace, Patricia. > ______________________ > ______________________ > > Message: 2 > Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:17:03 -0000 > " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke > Don't Take Advice to Off-List Conversations Please > > Dear Patricia, > > Yours is a kind offer to help Rodger, and actually part of the > reason this site was created... So we could help each other and > learn together... Please do not make the offer to talk off list, > since that defeats one of the reasons we have all come here > together... > > I know I have had problems with people trying to sell their services > or products, I trust that your intentions are higher than that... > > Be Well, > Misty L. Trepke > http://www..com > > , " patricia skinner " > <nimer99@j...> wrote: > > Dear Roger, > > > > I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter. I can't imagine how > heart breaking > > that must be. I'm a mother (even new grandmother) myself, and know > that > > nothing kills you more than misfortune to yourself apart from > mistfortune to > > your children. My eldest daughter is also 27, and had both her > babies at > > Wake medical center. You must be in N.C. > > > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Hi people. Back from the dephts where I had to lurk while finishing an article for a book about acupuncture and CM that'll come out next year. Will be pretty interesting, five articles ranging from the cosmological aspects of CM to the results of a research by Rio de Janeiro Federal University Neurology Institute on developing correct strategies to research acupuncture effects on human physiology. BTW, we still don't have a title for the book! Subtitle is " studies in acupuncture and chinese medicine " . Suggestions are welcome, we'd like to avoid the " doctoral thesis " flavor... but what brings me here is: " Message: 13 Tue, 11 Nov 2003 09:39:18 -0000 " " Re: CM ? I'm not sure that this upheaval and change is not itself the Chinese Tradition. doug " Doug, I think there is a difference between what we see today (i.e., the suppression of certain areas of chinese medical thought because they don't agree (in the digestive sense!) with the political agenda of post-rev China) with the usual process of paradigm-melding typical of chinese medical thought history, because now that trait so pronounced in chinese culture - respect if not outright veneration for the past (masters, classics) - is replaced by a clearly western concept of " progress " in the " more-modern-is-best " style, with " more modern " being of course a version of chinese medicine " free of feudal supertion ultimately designed to keep the working masses ignorant/subservient " . In Sivin's excellent book on the " Revised Outline " (Traditional in Contemporary China, University of Michigan Center for Chinese Studies, 1987) we find a wealth of illustrarions of this process. However, we must never mistake state policies for what actually happens among the practitioners. They are, in China more than anywhere else, adept at hiding their ideas and methods from statal scrutiny, keeping alive many traditions throught the medium of master-disciple teatching... the real teatching that happens outside university walls at the master's house between teacups. Of course, this kind of teatching is nearly inaccessible, because it depends first of all of being there, wich may be pretty difficult for many talented new-to-the-field acupuncturists (etc), and secondly and perhaps even more difficult it depends on gaining the master's trust, wich has nothing to do with said master warm-heartedness and solicitude. Being a non-chinese, in my experience, doesn't further your cause any, either. As I see it, then, this new TCM is more virulent in its intent of destroying and de-legitimizing much of the past lore of healing chinese arts than formerly were new emerging paradigms/ideas in chinese medical history, possibly because these didn't have such a massive statal power backing them. But, as Pierre pointed out, CM may be like pizza - some of the best recipes now are extant only outside Italy... but pizza is nevertheless everywhere. That's where internet and groups like ours come in bringing really new possibilities for the good guys (us!) to become organized and to circulate knowledge in truly revolutionary ways. My best to you all Daniel Luz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 I pretty much agree. I just see an irony in people decrying the Chinese government's CM policies when I see huge hospitals serving patients everyday with Chinese Medicine. My question is, Can these " masses " , if you will, be served by the ancient traditions? The dermatology department where I was, joked about how they have been so busy lately because of the prosperity that allowed people to focus on the admitadely more minor cosmetological, (not cosmological) aspects of their lives. From here in USA, we always get the " pure " forms of the religious and political movements that weren't allowed in their own countries. People are always shocked to go back to their countries of their heritage and find that the " roots " are gone. Just as Chinese doctors come here and find that they have to actually practice Chinese Medicine. doug As I see it, then, this > new TCM is more virulent in its intent of destroying and de-legitimizing > much of the past lore of healing chinese arts than formerly were new > emerging paradigms/ideas in chinese medical history, possibly because these > didn't have such a massive statal power backing them. But, as Pierre pointed > out, CM may be like pizza - some of the best recipes now are extant only > outside Italy... but pizza is nevertheless everywhere. That's where internet > and groups like ours come in bringing really new possibilities for the good > guys (us!) to become organized and to circulate knowledge in truly > revolutionary ways. > > My best to you all > Daniel Luz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 A comment on ears. When I fly, I make sure I "clear" with any of the techniques Doc mentioned several times before we leave the ground when flying, before I hit the water when diving. Then I keep doing it often during take-off/entry. I am alert to any descent of the plane and doing a valsava maneuver (exerting pressure to the poppin point) immediately. When I fly to Europe, I try to get a shorter leg to start with. I find that after one ascent and descent, it gets much easier for the next one(s). You make the eardrums more "patent" (flexible) each time you do the valsalva. I also had an ENT tell me to use nasal spray before takeoff if necessary, and throw the stuff away after the trip. When I am congested already, I do that. And I keep the same bottle for re-use as I just avoid using it unless I fly. Sue www.coachdrgridley.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 In a message dated 9/10/05 11:45:43 AM, writes: The Blessing of Water (catolico) great post www.coachdrgridley.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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