US Seniors Group Attack Pharm. Industry Fronts

[Guest guest]

Thank you for those comments. I am a senior citizen and am very health

conscious. I do not take any prescription drugs but that gives me no

assurance that I will not need help at some future time. I have an 89 yo

uncle who has paid his way all of his life until pretty recently and he has

need of prescription drugs probably for the first time in his life on a

regular basis. He served our country well in the armed forces and has paid

his taxes just like everyone else. He was forced to go on Medicare and give

up his private insurance just like the rest of us when we became 65.

Private insurance paid for most of our prescription drugs or at least a

large portion of it (and our supplement still does pay some). So you see,

it is not our fault that we have no or poor insurance for prescription drugs

It is my opinion that if we cannot have prescription coverage on our

insurance, (medicare-which we had no choice about and which we pay dearly

for) then insurance companies should not be able to write it for the

younger generation....and that would be terribly hard for the younger

generation. But in comparison, not as hard for them to pay as it is for our

seniors on fixed incomes.

 

And as far as not needing it, I can tell you, you'll never know til the time

comes. My husband is on prescription drugs for the first time in his life.

He didnt even have a family doctor. Excellent health. But all of sudden he

has lost all of his hair. So, no matter how healthy you are and how much

you dont expect to need medical attention, it CAN happen. We naver expect

to recoup all that we have paid in over the years but I dont begrudge

helping the needy. Just a touch of MERCY, please.

 

Eloise

 

>>>>>>There's a certain arrogance or lack of understanding that goes with

this kind of thinking, I'm afraid. >>>>>>>>

 

 

[Guest guest]

Eloise,

 

My mom's spouse is a veteran and they get very cheap health insurance which

also gives them free drugs. Check into that for your uncle!

 

 

> " Eloise Bailey " <pray

>

>

>[s-A] US Seniors Group Attack Pharm. Industry " Fronts "

>Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:45:39 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)

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>Thank you for those comments. I am a senior citizen and am very health

>conscious. I do not take any prescription drugs but that gives me no

>assurance that I will not need help at some future time. I have an 89 yo

>uncle who has paid his way all of his life until pretty recently and he has

>need of prescription drugs probably for the first time in his life on a

>regular basis. He served our country well in the armed forces and has paid

>his taxes just like everyone else. He was forced to go on Medicare and

>give

>up his private insurance just like the rest of us when we became 65.

>Private insurance paid for most of our prescription drugs or at least a

>large portion of it (and our supplement still does pay some). So you see,

>it is not our fault that we have no or poor insurance for prescription

>drugs

> It is my opinion that if we cannot have prescription coverage on our

>insurance, (medicare-which we had no choice about and which we pay dearly

>for) then insurance companies should not be able to write it for the

>younger generation....and that would be terribly hard for the younger

>generation. But in comparison, not as hard for them to pay as it is for

>our

>seniors on fixed incomes.

>

>And as far as not needing it, I can tell you, you'll never know til the

>time

>comes. My husband is on prescription drugs for the first time in his life.

>He didnt even have a family doctor. Excellent health. But all of sudden

>he

>has lost all of his hair. So, no matter how healthy you are and how much

>you dont expect to need medical attention, it CAN happen. We naver expect

>to recoup all that we have paid in over the years but I dont begrudge

>helping the needy. Just a touch of MERCY, please.

>

>Eloise

>

> >>>>>>There's a certain arrogance or lack of understanding that goes with

>this kind of thinking, I'm afraid. >>>>>>>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jean,

 

In my 30+ years of medical practice it has been my experience that the vast

majority of " seniors " have lived their whole lives believing that 100 years

of unopposed propaganda by the AMA: " Just do anything you want and come pay

me to pick up the pieces. " The human genome project has already proved that

only 20% of the " ills that man is heir to " are due to genetics and the other

80% is due to the choices one makes about how to get the most out of what

genes they were dealt.

 

How do you expect that " seniors " would have any idea what to do to help

themselves when those things are just now being discovered? It has only

been in the past 30 years that there was any agreement that exercise was a

good thing to do.

 

One of the tragedies of our generation is how little medical attention has

been given to prevention as compared to the trillions that have been spent

in treatment of symptoms only (where the money is).

 

Walt Stoll, MD

 

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" jeanstouffer " <jstouffer

 

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:58 AM

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There's a certain arrogance or lack of understanding that goes with

this kind of thinking, I'm afraid. In my work with a variety of

people, including " seniors, " I find that most of them have taken very

good care of themselves, watched what they ate, exercised, practiced

a variety of relaxation techniques, but still . . . cancer (and other

illnesses) knows no limits. Disease can take hold of young or old,

and not because the person did or did not live a certain way.

 

Maybe we can be a little more gentle with all peoples of all ages,

even if they don't live their lives the way we think they should.

Who knows, we might each of us be in the same boat someday. God

forbid.

 

Jean

 

 

Jean D. Stouffer, C.Ht.

Certified HypnoBirthing® Practitioner

505-269-8423

jstouffer

 

 

 

 

, " Carol Minnick "

<carolminnick@a...> wrote:

> You know, I totally disagree with this " national pharmaceutical

scheme

> to help older people to meet their drug costs " .

>

> I mean - why should " I " have to help other people pay for their

> prescriptions????? I have taken care of my body - I don't need ANY

> prescriptions, and don't expect I ever will - so I should not have

to

> pay into this. And so many of those AARP people wouldn't need

> prescriptions, either, if they would only wake up and start taking

care

> of themselves, instead of putting all their faith in the drug

companies

> and their doctor - who by the way, is not God.

>

> Carol M

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Carol M wrote:

" You know, I totally disagree with this " national pharmaceutical scheme to help

older people to meet their drug costs " .

 

I mean - why should " I " have to help other people pay for their

prescriptions????? I have taken care of my body - I don't need ANY

prescriptions, and don't expect I ever will - so I should not have to pay into

this. And so many of those AARP people wouldn't need prescriptions, either, if

they would only wake up and start taking care of themselves, instead of putting

all their faith in the drug companies and their doctor - who by the way, is not

God. "

 

First, I want to thank you for this posting. I am naturally cynical about the

goodness of people, but every once in awhile I waver, and think, well, maybe,

people aren't nearly as selfish as I picture them. This post completely

restores my belief in the inherent selfishness of the average person.

 

Not only that, but it's rare that you see complete arrogance and complete

ignorance combined to such a perfect balance. It is just amazing. To make the

statement that " I don't expect to ever need any prescriptions " is well, to be as

kind as possible, absolutely mind-blowing. Since we all die, and unless we are

taken out in a accident, illness usually precedes death, unless you suffer an

massive heart attack, and all kinds of prescriptions will be administered before

letting someone die, the above statement would be made by someone who is totally

unaware.

 

I could, but I won't tire you, give you case after case of young people stricken

with horrible disease, and older people too, where their life style had nothing

to do with bringing on the disease they contracted. Some were even what would

be called " health nuts, " but none-the-less, the nightmare happened.

 

Most of that AARP crowd, the ones who aren't doing anything to take care of them

selves and now want you to pay for their meds, have so far paid taxes all their

lives, taxes that have benefited you in uncountable ways. I guess you thought

it was just your due. Many, many have served in the armed forces, keeping you

free so that you may spout your drivel, but that's of no account either, I

suppose.

 

In bewilderment and affirmation,

 

Roger