Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Enjoy, Misty http://www..com Sugar and Cancer by Dr. Mercola http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/8/sugar_cancer.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Thanks, Misty. Only those who would say that cancer has nothing to DO with the strength of the immune system (Of course, those proponents of chemotherapy act as though this were so.) would say anything like that. It has been documented for more than 30 years that the leukocytic index [a direct measurement of immune function] is reduced 90% within 15 minutes of ingestion of the amount of sugar there is in the average family meal [see sugar at askwaltstollmd.com]--and lasts for about 2 hours. In my opinion, most " professionals " just conveniently ignore such inconvenient facts. Cheers to Dr Mercola! Namaste` Walt - " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke Saturday, June 07, 2003 9:18 PM [s-A] Sugar and Cancer > Enjoy, > Misty > http://www..com > > > Sugar and Cancer > by Dr. Mercola > http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/8/sugar_cancer.htm > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Speaking of cancer - I live near the Roswell Park Cancer Institute. I have a friend who has cancer and she goes there for treatment, and she was amazed that they have NO nutrition program. They just tell her she can eat whatever she wants!! I was just so disappointed in that information - you hear so much good about Roswell, you would think they would have a clue as to what different foods you should avoid. Carol Minnick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ whole-food supplements that provide nutrients essential for the health of people, pets and plants. <http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com> http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ waltstoll [waltstoll] Sunday, June 08, 2003 7:33 AM Re: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Thanks, Misty. Only those who would say that cancer has nothing to DO with the strength of the immune system (Of course, those proponents of chemotherapy act as though this were so.) would say anything like that. It has been documented for more than 30 years that the leukocytic index [a direct measurement of immune function] is reduced 90% within 15 minutes of ingestion of the amount of sugar there is in the average family meal [see sugar at askwaltstollmd.com]--and lasts for about 2 hours. In my opinion, most " professionals " just conveniently ignore such inconvenient facts. Cheers to Dr Mercola! Namaste` Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Jen, I thought this interesting.... A Cancer Institute doesn't even suggest eating properly to help your body.... Go figure, I guess they want to make sure their patients go for their chemo treatments... By the way if you get tired of messages like this just tell me. Lisa " Carol Minnick " <carolminnick Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:38:08 -0400 RE: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Speaking of cancer - I live near the Roswell Park Cancer Institute. I have a friend who has cancer and she goes there for treatment, and she was amazed that they have NO nutrition program. They just tell her she can eat whatever she wants!! I was just so disappointed in that information - you hear so much good about Roswell, you would think they would have a clue as to what different foods you should avoid. Carol Minnick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ whole-food supplements that provide nutrients essential for the health of people, pets and plants. <http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com> http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ waltstoll [waltstoll] Sunday, June 08, 2003 7:33 AM Re: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Thanks, Misty. Only those who would say that cancer has nothing to DO with the strength of the immune system (Of course, those proponents of chemotherapy act as though this were so.) would say anything like that. It has been documented for more than 30 years that the leukocytic index [a direct measurement of immune function] is reduced 90% within 15 minutes of ingestion of the amount of sugar there is in the average family meal [see sugar at askwaltstollmd.com]--and lasts for about 2 hours. In my opinion, most " professionals " just conveniently ignore such inconvenient facts. Cheers to Dr Mercola! Namaste` Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Hi Carol... I know, that absolutely amazes me too... I went to the doctors with a friend who was diagnosed with a serious disease, it wasn't cancer but clearly a life or death condition, and again, not only did they not have a nutrition program, they repeatedly " reassured " him that he would not have to change his diet (or other parts of his lifestyle, ie. alcohol...) at all... These doctors said it with such conviction, that I never was able to help my friend see the benefit of such changes... Be Well, Misty http://www..com Carol Minnick <carolminnick wrote: Speaking of cancer - I live near the Roswell Park Cancer Institute. I have a friend who has cancer and she goes there for treatment, and she was amazed that they have NO nutrition program. They just tell her she can eat whatever she wants!! I was just so disappointed in that information - you hear so much good about Roswell, you would think they would have a clue as to what different foods you should avoid. Carol Minnick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ whole-food supplements that provide nutrients essential for the health of people, pets and plants. <http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com> http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 What do you mean - " if you get tired of getting messages like this " ?? Lisa [malica98] Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:40 AM Re: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Jen, By the way if you get tired of messages like this just tell me. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 My hubby gets the same thing from his doctor (hubby and I don't see eye to eye on nutrition, to say the least!!) Hubby has high cholesterol and was on 20 mg. lipitor for quite a while, and when he went in to see his doctor a couple months ago for a checkup, his cholesterol level was elevated - so the doctor upped his lipitor to 40 mg. per day!!!!! Unbelievable what these doctors don't know - or don't tell you. I asked hubby when he got home - didn't he tell you to stop smoking, or to quit eating all that ice cream, or to add more fruits or veggies to your diet? Of course, he didn't. Most of these doctors would be out of a job if they told people how to be healthy. Carol mistylyn trepke [mistytrepke] Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:58 AM RE: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Hi Carol... I know, that absolutely amazes me too... I went to the doctors with a friend who was diagnosed with a serious disease, it wasn't cancer but clearly a life or death condition, and again, not only did they not have a nutrition program, they repeatedly " reassured " him that he would not have to change his diet (or other parts of his lifestyle, ie. alcohol...) at all... These doctors said it with such conviction, that I never was able to help my friend see the benefit of such changes... Be Well, Misty http://www..com Carol Minnick <carolminnick wrote: Speaking of cancer - I live near the Roswell Park Cancer Institute. I have a friend who has cancer and she goes there for treatment, and she was amazed that they have NO nutrition program. They just tell her she can eat whatever she wants!! I was just so disappointed in that information - you hear so much good about Roswell, you would think they would have a clue as to what different foods you should avoid. Carol Minnick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ whole-food supplements that provide nutrients essential for the health of people, pets and plants. <http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com> http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Sorry I was actually trying to forward to someone. I didn't mean for this message to be posted... My goof. I was just going to start sending messages referring to cancer, etc. because a relative just was diagnosed with Lymphoma. Anyway, sorry for the mess up. Lisa " Carol Minnick " <carolminnick Sun, 8 Jun 2003 10:03:25 -0400 RE: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer What do you mean - " if you get tired of getting messages like this " ?? Lisa [malica98] Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:40 AM Re: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Jen, By the way if you get tired of messages like this just tell me. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 I personally had the same situation. I asked the doctor if he could recommend a diet for me that would allow me to fight cancer nutritionally, and he said he could not help me. He didn't know. That from a radiation oncologist. The net has been my guide for what to eat, and what not to eat, including groups such as this. Roger - Lisa Sunday, June 08, 2003 8:40 AM Re: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Jen, I thought this interesting.... A Cancer Institute doesn't even suggest eating properly to help your body.... Go figure, I guess they want to make sure their patients go for their chemo treatments... By the way if you get tired of messages like this just tell me. Lisa " Carol Minnick " <carolminnick Sun, 8 Jun 2003 07:38:08 -0400 RE: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Speaking of cancer - I live near the Roswell Park Cancer Institute. I have a friend who has cancer and she goes there for treatment, and she was amazed that they have NO nutrition program. They just tell her she can eat whatever she wants!! I was just so disappointed in that information - you hear so much good about Roswell, you would think they would have a clue as to what different foods you should avoid. Carol Minnick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ whole-food supplements that provide nutrients essential for the health of people, pets and plants. <http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com> http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ waltstoll [waltstoll] Sunday, June 08, 2003 7:33 AM Re: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Thanks, Misty. Only those who would say that cancer has nothing to DO with the strength of the immune system (Of course, those proponents of chemotherapy act as though this were so.) would say anything like that. It has been documented for more than 30 years that the leukocytic index [a direct measurement of immune function] is reduced 90% within 15 minutes of ingestion of the amount of sugar there is in the average family meal [see sugar at askwaltstollmd.com]--and lasts for about 2 hours. In my opinion, most " professionals " just conveniently ignore such inconvenient facts. Cheers to Dr Mercola! Namaste` Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Actually it makes quite a bit of sense that the doctors or medical institutions don't say anything about nutrition. It is after all how they make a comfortable living. It's not them that gets sicker, but they do get richer. Why ruin a good thing? Think about it. I'll shut up before I get up on my soap box. On 8 Jun 2003 at 10:09, Carol Minnick wrote: > My hubby gets the same thing from his doctor (hubby and I don't see > eye to eye on nutrition, to say the least!!) > > Hubby has high cholesterol and was on 20 mg. lipitor for quite a > while, and when he went in to see his doctor a couple months ago for a > checkup, his cholesterol level was elevated - so the doctor upped his > lipitor to 40 mg. per day!!!!! Unbelievable what these doctors don't > know - or don't tell you. I asked hubby when he got home - didn't he > tell you to stop smoking, or to quit eating all that ice cream, or to > add more fruits or veggies to your diet? Of course, he didn't. Most > of these doctors would be out of a job if they told people how to be > healthy. > > Carol > > > mistylyn trepke [mistytrepke] > Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:58 AM > > RE: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer > > Hi Carol... > > I know, that absolutely amazes me too... I went to the doctors with a > friend who was diagnosed with a serious disease, it wasn't cancer but > clearly a life or death condition, and again, not only did they not > have a nutrition program, they repeatedly " reassured " him that he > would not have to change his diet (or other parts of his lifestyle, > ie. alcohol...) at all... These doctors said it with such conviction, > that I never was able to help my friend see the benefit of such > changes... > > Be Well, > Misty > http://www..com > > > Carol Minnick <carolminnick wrote: > Speaking of cancer - I live near the Roswell Park Cancer Institute. I > have a friend who has cancer and she goes there for treatment, and she > was amazed that they have NO nutrition program. They just tell her > she can eat whatever she wants!! I was just so disappointed in that > information - you hear so much good about Roswell, you would think > they would have a clue as to what different foods you should avoid. > Carol Minnick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Hi Carol, Is your hubby also on Hydrochlorathiazide, by any chance ? My dad, after having a shunt put in for a heart-attack nearly 3 years ago, the doctor gave him lipitor but with excess water retention they also put him on this. Is this comon ? and why does his left knee still blow up to the size of a softball about every 3 weeks lasting several days ? I am curious and concerned these doctors are not really helping him at all. Check out who I am at affect_ive1 4peacealways, Ms. Ricki Carol Minnick <carolminnick wrote: My hubby gets the same thing from his doctor (hubby and I don't see eye to eye on nutrition, to say the least!!) Hubby has high cholesterol and was on 20 mg. lipitor for quite a while, and when he went in to see his doctor a couple months ago for a checkup, his cholesterol level was elevated - so the doctor upped his lipitor to 40 mg. per day!!!!! Unbelievable what these doctors don't know - or don't tell you. I asked hubby when he got home - didn't he tell you to stop smoking, or to quit eating all that ice cream, or to add more fruits or veggies to your diet? Of course, he didn't. Most of these doctors would be out of a job if they told people how to be healthy. Carol mistylyn trepke [mistytrepke] Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:58 AM RE: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Hi Carol... I know, that absolutely amazes me too... I went to the doctors with a friend who was diagnosed with a serious disease, it wasn't cancer but clearly a life or death condition, and again, not only did they not have a nutrition program, they repeatedly " reassured " him that he would not have to change his diet (or other parts of his lifestyle, ie. alcohol...) at all... These doctors said it with such conviction, that I never was able to help my friend see the benefit of such changes... Be Well, Misty http://www..com Carol Minnick <carolminnick wrote: Speaking of cancer - I live near the Roswell Park Cancer Institute. I have a friend who has cancer and she goes there for treatment, and she was amazed that they have NO nutrition program. They just tell her she can eat whatever she wants!! I was just so disappointed in that information - you hear so much good about Roswell, you would think they would have a clue as to what different foods you should avoid. Carol Minnick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ whole-food supplements that provide nutrients essential for the health of people, pets and plants. <http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com> http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Hi Ricki, No, he is not on Hydrochlorathiazide, what is it for? He is also on Atenelol for high blood pressure - he also had a stent put in about 3 years ago because of an " almost heart attack " with an artery 95% blocked. I don't know about your dad's knee - I would think it is a side-effect of the drug he is on. Make sure he reads all the fine print that comes in the insert when he gets is prescription. That will list a billion side effects. Maybe his doctor could change his prescription to find one that doesn't do that. Or maybe your dad would be willing to improve his diet - I know my hubby is not - his philosophy is " give me a bigger pill and a bigger bowl of ice cream " . Unbelievable how some people's minds work. When that happens with his knee again, he may want to add some plant-based enzymes to his diet - they are good for any kind of inflammation. Carol ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ whole-food supplements that provide nutrients essential for the health of people, pets and plants. <http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com> http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ erica hidvegi [affect_ive1] Monday, June 09, 2003 1:50 AM RE: [s-A] Sugar and Cancer Hi Carol, Is your hubby also on Hydrochlorathiazide, by any chance ? My dad, after having a shunt put in for a heart-attack nearly 3 years ago, the doctor gave him lipitor but with excess water retention they also put him on this. Is this comon ? and why does his left knee still blow up to the size of a softball about every 3 weeks lasting several days ? I am curious and concerned these doctors are not really helping him at all. Check out who I am at affect_ive1 4peacealways, Ms. Ricki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Hi Ms. Ricki... I hope you don't mind, I took the liberty to look up swollen joints in homeopathic reference books and found: Belladonna Bryonia Colchicum Hepar Sulphur Ledum Sulphur All very highly listed... I also cross referenced this list with left sided complaints, and while they all cover the left side, the Sulphur was the strongest... You might find it interesting to investigate these remedies further... Be Well, Misty http://www..com , erica hidvegi <affect_ive1> wrote: > Hi Carol, > > Is your hubby also on Hydrochlorathiazide, by any chance ? > > My dad, after having a shunt put in for a heart-attack nearly 3 years ago, > the doctor gave him lipitor but with excess water retention they also put him on this. > > Is this comon ? and why does his left knee still blow up to the size of a softball about every 3 weeks lasting several days ? > > I am curious and concerned these doctors are not really helping him at all. Check out who I am at affect_ive1 > > 4peacealways, > Ms. Ricki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Hi Carol, I thought I would do the same for you... Even if your hubby is not interested, there might be others that would benefit and enjoy this information... For the heart in general Arnica is a wonderful remedy... Arnica is normally thought of in relationship to muscles, and what is the heart, but a big muscle... It can be very good before or after heart issues- I would also consider doing it during, but only with medical supervision for such an acute life or death situation... For blocked arteries, if it is a clot, I just learned yesterday that Kali Mur. is very, very good. Be careful though as that it will lower the need for heparin, which is used to thin the blood, so best done in conjuction with medical supervision as well. For cholesterol, Arnica and Calendula work great. They will heal the arteries, and eliminate the need for the body to lay down cholesterol in the arteries. Be Well, Misty http://www..com , " Carol Minnick " <carolminnick@a...> wrote: > Hi Ricki, > > No, he is not on Hydrochlorathiazide, what is it for? He is also on > Atenelol for high blood pressure - he also had a stent put in about 3 > years ago because of an " almost heart attack " with an artery 95% > blocked. > > I don't know about your dad's knee - I would think it is a side- effect > of the drug he is on. Make sure he reads all the fine print that comes > in the insert when he gets is prescription. That will list a billion > side effects. Maybe his doctor could change his prescription to find > one that doesn't do that. Or maybe your dad would be willing to improve > his diet - I know my hubby is not - his philosophy is " give me a bigger > pill and a bigger bowl of ice cream " . Unbelievable how some people's > minds work. > > When that happens with his knee again, he may want to add some > plant-based enzymes to his diet - they are good for any kind of > inflammation. > > Carol > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > whole-food supplements that provide nutrients > essential for the health of people, pets and plants. > <http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com> http://www.BlueGreenSolutions.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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