Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Hi Misty, Well I thought I would update and see what I should do, things have changed. My daughter seems to breathe out of her nose much better. Her nose doesn't seem to be blocked that much. Her right tonsil doesn't look swollen at all, there is more of an opening in her throat. I haven't reported sooner because I was trying to make sure I wasn't imagining things... But having said that read on... I need to understand antidoting. Does it completely cancel what a remedy is trying to do? Doesn't the body still work to try and fix what is wrong? I totally was not thinking and have been using Essential Oils in my cleaning... I know some tend to antidote the remedies... I just wasn't thinking about that... Ugh. I use Lemon Myrtle EO. I just want to be sure because maybe the first week I didn't see much of a change because of the EO. Last week I did a light cleaning, so it may not have affected her in any way. I guess the only way to tell is not use the EO at all and see what happens. What should I do now? Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Hi Lisa, Yea!! I am glad to hear she is doing so much better. Not to worry about the Essential Oils. Yes, there is the idea of antidoting, or in other words being around certain odors, drinking coffee, etc, that is said to diminish the effects of homeopathic remedies. But what about all the pollution in the air, all the horrible things in our water, etc.? If it is the right remedy it will work. I have seen people put a remedy in a glass of coke (that was all they had available to drink) and they still got benefits from the remedy. I have often times wondered if antidoting is simply an excuse given when in fact it was just the wrong remedy. And as far as time, well, when the body heals naturally it can take a little longer than we are used to with many of the suppressive treatments out there... But the good news is that she should come out of this experience stronger, unlike the after effects of the suppressive treatments. So now comes the question, how much longer does she need the remedy? We don't want to stop too soon, but neither should she continue once she is fully better. So how much better exactly is she? What still remains, and to what degree? Has anything new popped up such as a rash or any other physical, mental, emotional symptom? How often is she getting the remedy? And for how many days total has she been receiving Pulsatilla? Ok, with that information we will have a better idea of what to do now, but it clearly looks like she is on the right path... Congratulations Lisa!! Job well done! Be Well, Misty http://www..com , Lisa <malica98@p...> wrote: > > Hi Misty, > > Well I thought I would update and see what I should do, things have changed. > My daughter seems to breathe out of her nose much better. Her nose doesn't > seem to be blocked that much. Her right tonsil doesn't look swollen at all, > there is more of an opening in her throat. I haven't reported sooner > because I was trying to make sure I wasn't imagining things... But having > said that read on... > > I need to understand antidoting. Does it completely cancel what a remedy is > trying to do? Doesn't the body still work to try and fix what is wrong? I > totally was not thinking and have been using Essential Oils in my > cleaning... I know some tend to antidote the remedies... I just wasn't > thinking about that... Ugh. I use Lemon Myrtle EO. I just want to be > sure because maybe the first week I didn't see much of a change because of > the EO. Last week I did a light cleaning, so it may not have affected her > in any way. I guess the only way to tell is not use the EO at all and see > what happens. What should I do now? > > Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Misty, Thanks for the words of encouragement. What you say makes sense too. What if I was to say that antidoting may seem to occur because a persons immune system isn't very good. Like the person you said took it with coke, well maybe they were better off than someone else whose system gets disrupted by drinking coke. Just a thought . Well do you antidote if you use the incorrect remedy? Just as an example the MM by Clarke says for Pulsatilla: Antidoted by: Cham. (Cham. and Puls. antidote each other and follow each other well. If either one has over-acted the other will probably neutralise the ill effect and carry on the good), Coff., Ign., Nux (Teste adds Sul., and says when the improper use of Puls. has affected the air passages Calc. ph. has proved his best antidote). Just trying to understand what this means. Is this for cases when an aggravation occurs? Ok, now to answer your questions. She had the remedy total 10 days. 4-5 per day for 4 days, rest three times a day. There are no physical things. I'm not sure about the itching she had one night, hasn't occurred since. A couple of emotional things. One may just be sibling rivalry.... She constantly takes things from my other daughter. No matter how many times I tell her not to she just does it. She claims the toy is hers or whatever. It just is consistently happening. She used to do it before the remedy, so I'm not sure if it is anything or not. It just seems to be happening more often I guess. Also, something else happened today which was a little different. She seems to get frustrated more easily. I don't know. We were coloring and then she just got frustrated and started to scribble. When I ask her to try and do something she does it but at first she is like well I can't do it. Just seems a little out of norm, but I am not sure. When she sleeps she still tends to go through a little period where she will snore a little, but not loudly or as if it is hard for her to breathe. One thing might be that she may just be breathing out of her mouth but because her right tonsil isn't swollen, it doesn't cause her to snore. Her sleeping is more rested so I think things are ok on that end, but I guess the nasal sound being still there means something still isn't right. Also, sometimes she gets dark circles under the eyes which the doctor claimed is a symptom of allergies, but anyhow it has something to do with the nose. She didn't seem to have them yesterday, but today she did and had was more nasal sounding than she did the past two days... I just don't get it. Of course I just remembered she bumped her nose last night, which could have done something... I was wondering if the separated septum may be something... Although if Homeopathy can rectify this, that would be just as well. I guess it still is a waiting, watch and see kind of thing. Well that is all for now. Your turn... Thanks, Lisa " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke Thu, 22 May 2003 15:21:28 -0000 [s-A] Re: Ref: Homeopathy Help Update Checking in Hi Lisa, Yea!! I am glad to hear she is doing so much better. Not to worry about the Essential Oils. Yes, there is the idea of antidoting, or in other words being around certain odors, drinking coffee, etc, that is said to diminish the effects of homeopathic remedies. But what about all the pollution in the air, all the horrible things in our water, etc.? If it is the right remedy it will work. I have seen people put a remedy in a glass of coke (that was all they had available to drink) and they still got benefits from the remedy. I have often times wondered if antidoting is simply an excuse given when in fact it was just the wrong remedy. And as far as time, well, when the body heals naturally it can take a little longer than we are used to with many of the suppressive treatments out there... But the good news is that she should come out of this experience stronger, unlike the after effects of the suppressive treatments. So now comes the question, how much longer does she need the remedy? We don't want to stop too soon, but neither should she continue once she is fully better. So how much better exactly is she? What still remains, and to what degree? Has anything new popped up such as a rash or any other physical, mental, emotional symptom? How often is she getting the remedy? And for how many days total has she been receiving Pulsatilla? Ok, with that information we will have a better idea of what to do now, but it clearly looks like she is on the right path... Congratulations Lisa!! Job well done! Be Well, Misty http://www..com , Lisa <malica98@p...> wrote: > > Hi Misty, > > Well I thought I would update and see what I should do, things have changed. > My daughter seems to breathe out of her nose much better. Her nose doesn't > seem to be blocked that much. Her right tonsil doesn't look swollen at all, > there is more of an opening in her throat. I haven't reported sooner > because I was trying to make sure I wasn't imagining things... But having > said that read on... > > I need to understand antidoting. Does it completely cancel what a remedy is > trying to do? Doesn't the body still work to try and fix what is wrong? I > totally was not thinking and have been using Essential Oils in my > cleaning... I know some tend to antidote the remedies... I just wasn't > thinking about that... Ugh. I use Lemon Myrtle EO. I just want to be > sure because maybe the first week I didn't see much of a change because of > the EO. Last week I did a light cleaning, so it may not have affected her > in any way. I guess the only way to tell is not use the EO at all and see > what happens. What should I do now? > > Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Hi Lisa, When we were talking about antidoting I was thinking about the smells, tastes, etc, that are said to diminish homeopathic remedies. For those cases, I think people doing homeopathy can get a little superstitious and I don't like to make people over vigilent about them because they can go on ad infintium... Now there are certain remedies that do not follow other remedies, or that should not be taken together, etc. That should be respected. Normally I do not like to intentionally try to antidote a remedy. Sometimes homeopathic practitioners who use really high potencies can cause really bad aggravations, either through improper potency, or remedy. Homeopathic remedies will stimulate the vital force and sometimes more can be stirred up than can gently be incorporated by the body. That is why I do the type of homeopathy I do. I have had tried those really high potency remedies and have had a wicked aggravation, and it is not fun. Homeopathy should be as gentle as possible. That is why I mainly use 30c or at most 200c remedies, and I also take into consideration the remedy being chosen. Remember how we did not do the Lachesis? Lachesis can be one of those muck raisers. Just like mercury and carcinogen. Just because it is " natural " does not mean it should not be respected. Hemlock is natural too. And yes, you did hit upon something. The healthier the person, the quicker the remedy will act. If she was better but is now getting a little worse, stop the remedy for 2-3 days and see how she does. If she is better but still taking the remedy she can possibly " prove " the remedy which means she will start showing the symptoms that the remedy will cure. So take a break and please tell us know how she did. Be Well, Misty http://www..com -- In , Lisa <malica98@p...> wrote: > Misty, > > Thanks for the words of encouragement. What you say makes sense too. What > if I was to say that antidoting may seem to occur because a persons immune > system isn't very good. Like the person you said took it with coke, well > maybe they were better off than someone else whose system gets disrupted by > drinking coke. Just a thought . Well do you antidote if you use the > incorrect remedy? Just as an example the MM by Clarke says for Pulsatilla: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Hi Misty, Okay, thanks for the info. I am going on a week vacation so that should be a good break. I have a feeling what you say is right. Homeopathy is so interesting and amazing. It is so unbelievable that more people don't know about it. I am so grateful for the internet because it sure has broadened my horizons!!! I am learning so much. Although it is hard to separate what is good and what might not be so good. I'll try to post if I can. We are just visiting family, and they do have a computer. Thanks so much! Lisa " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke Fri, 23 May 2003 11:16:08 -0000 [s-A] Re: Ref: Homeopathy Help Update Checking in Hi Lisa, When we were talking about antidoting I was thinking about the smells, tastes, etc, that are said to diminish homeopathic remedies. For those cases, I think people doing homeopathy can get a little superstitious and I don't like to make people over vigilent about them because they can go on ad infintium... Now there are certain remedies that do not follow other remedies, or that should not be taken together, etc. That should be respected. Normally I do not like to intentionally try to antidote a remedy. Sometimes homeopathic practitioners who use really high potencies can cause really bad aggravations, either through improper potency, or remedy. Homeopathic remedies will stimulate the vital force and sometimes more can be stirred up than can gently be incorporated by the body. That is why I do the type of homeopathy I do. I have had tried those really high potency remedies and have had a wicked aggravation, and it is not fun. Homeopathy should be as gentle as possible. That is why I mainly use 30c or at most 200c remedies, and I also take into consideration the remedy being chosen. Remember how we did not do the Lachesis? Lachesis can be one of those muck raisers. Just like mercury and carcinogen. Just because it is " natural " does not mean it should not be respected. Hemlock is natural too. And yes, you did hit upon something. The healthier the person, the quicker the remedy will act. If she was better but is now getting a little worse, stop the remedy for 2-3 days and see how she does. If she is better but still taking the remedy she can possibly " prove " the remedy which means she will start showing the symptoms that the remedy will cure. So take a break and please tell us know how she did. Be Well, Misty http://www..com -- In , Lisa <malica98@p...> wrote: > Misty, > > Thanks for the words of encouragement. What you say makes sense too. What > if I was to say that antidoting may seem to occur because a persons immune > system isn't very good. Like the person you said took it with coke, well > maybe they were better off than someone else whose system gets disrupted by > drinking coke. Just a thought . Well do you antidote if you use the > incorrect remedy? Just as an example the MM by Clarke says for Pulsatilla: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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