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Hi, I just joined this group and I have a question.

Since fats do not cause " hardening of the arteries " ,

what does. I have had so many by-pass surgeries in

the past 10 years that my legs look like rows of

tracts. I have been told by different doctors that

my problems come from high cholesterol and I must

get it down so that the plaque will not be able

to stick to the artery walls. I have tried low fat diets

with out any success and now you say that all fats

may not be the villian just certain types of fats.

Am I stating this correctly? Please help if you will.

About two months ago I stopped taking the different

cholesterol lowering (statins) drugs that were prescribed

and so far I have not notice any difference. Thanks for

any help.

shirley

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Shirley,

 

I do not respond to questions like this by email. My main reason for

donating so many hours to helping is for PUBLIC education. Done by email, no

one else will ever see it. I would appreciate your helping me figure out

how to make this more plain to new BB participants. Put your info on the

Bulletin Board and I will respond within 24 hours.

 

In the meantime, going to the atherosclerosis and the chelation archives

will help you get started.

 

Walt

 

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" shirquinson " <shirquinson

 

Monday, April 28, 2003 2:09 AM

[s-A] ATHEROSCLEROSIS

 

 

> Hi, I just joined this group and I have a question.

> Since fats do not cause " hardening of the arteries " ,

> what does. I have had so many by-pass surgeries in

> the past 10 years that my legs look like rows of

> tracts. I have been told by different doctors that

> my problems come from high cholesterol and I must

> get it down so that the plaque will not be able

> to stick to the artery walls. I have tried low fat diets

> with out any success and now you say that all fats

> may not be the villian just certain types of fats.

> Am I stating this correctly? Please help if you will.

> About two months ago I stopped taking the different

> cholesterol lowering (statins) drugs that were prescribed

> and so far I have not notice any difference. Thanks for

> any help.

> shirley

>

>

>

>

>

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Shirley,

I feel that you may be on the wrong path - judging from the various choices

you've followed.

Seems to me that you'd benefit from taking the guidance from an integrative

physician.

Suggestion: Post your location, and we'll try to find you an appropriate

referral. It could save your life.

Jerry Mittelman, DDS, FAPM

 

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shirquinson

Monday, April 28, 2003 3:09 AM

[s-A] ATHEROSCLEROSIS

 

 

Hi, I just joined this group and I have a question.

Since fats do not cause " hardening of the arteries " ,

what does. I have had so many by-pass surgeries in

the past 10 years that my legs look like rows of

tracts. I have been told by different doctors that

my problems come from high cholesterol and I must

get it down so that the plaque will not be able

to stick to the artery walls. I have tried low fat diets

with out any success and now you say that all fats

may not be the villian just certain types of fats.

Am I stating this correctly? Please help if you will.

About two months ago I stopped taking the different

cholesterol lowering (statins) drugs that were prescribed

and so far I have not notice any difference. Thanks for

any help.

shirley

 

 

 

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Hi Shirley...

 

Have you ever felt like you had something on the tip of your tongue,

but you just could not get it out?

 

I know I have heard very insightful information about cholesterol,

information that I would really like to share with the group but it

is escaping me at the moment...

 

My suggestion is to follow through with Dr. Stoll, look into the

chelation section of his website (his site is on our links page) and

perhaps looking for an integrated physcian is not a bad idea, and

give me a day or so to do some research and track down the

information I know that might be helpful as well... I am sure more

people here will also do their best to help you out.

 

Meanwhile consider researching into fasting, as well as sprouting,

which would also include wheatgrass juice, and increase your water

intake to at least a gallon a day (this is wonderful in so many

ways, I can not list them all- but I can highly recommend the

book " Your Body's Many Cries for Water " ).

 

Hopefully with all the many disciplines we have represented here, we

can at least point you in a productive direction...

 

Be Well,

Misty

http://www..com

 

 

 

ps- who elsesearching-

alternatives , " shirquinson " <shirquinson> wrote:

> Hi, I just joined this group and I have a question.

> Since fats do not cause " hardening of the arteries " ,

> what does. I have had so many by-pass surgeries in

> the past 10 years that my legs look like rows of

> tracts. I have been told by different doctors that

> my problems come from high cholesterol and I must

> get it down so that the plaque will not be able

> to stick to the artery walls. I have tried low fat diets

> with out any success and now you say that all fats

> may not be the villian just certain types of fats.

> Am I stating this correctly? Please help if you will.

> About two months ago I stopped taking the different

> cholesterol lowering (statins) drugs that were prescribed

> and so far I have not notice any difference. Thanks for

> any help.

> shirley

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>Hi, I just joined this group and I have a question.

Since fats do not cause " hardening of the arteries " ,

what does.

 

I'm not a doc or anything, but I think I've read theories about certain

bacteria being implicated....search google.com

 

 

 

> I have had so many by-pass surgeries in

the past 10 years that my legs look like rows of

tracts. I have been told by different doctors that

my problems come from high cholesterol and I must

get it down so that the plaque will not be able

to stick to the artery walls. I have tried low fat diets

with out any success and now you say that all fats

may not be the villian just certain types of fats.

>Am I stating this correctly?

 

That's my understanding, although I've not looked into it too much....

 

Khepri

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>Shirley,

 

>I do not respond to questions like this by email. My main reason for

donating so many hours to helping is for PUBLIC education. Done by email, no

one else will ever see it.

 

???? Am I missing something here?

 

 

> I would appreciate your helping me figure out

how to make this more plain to new BB participants. Put your info on the

Bulletin Board and I will respond within 24 hours.

 

>In the meantime, going to the atherosclerosis and the chelation archives

will help you get started.

 

>Walt

 

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" shirquinson " <shirquinson

> <<<<<------------

groups? BB? Public? I'm confused...

Monday, April 28, 2003 2:09 AM

>[s-A] ATHEROSCLEROSIS

 

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Hi Shirley & everyone...

 

Ok,... I did the research as promised and this is what I learned...

 

The body needs to be properly hydrated, for one reason amoung many

is to keep the blood in the proper range of thickness so it can go

through the blood vessels properly... Now when we are chronically

dehydrated, the body will produce a grease to coat the vessels to

help the blood go through and to protect any damaged areas in the

vessels. What is that grease?- cholesterol!

 

So of number one importance is drinking a lot of water. I would try

to drink a gallon in the morning, the first 1/2hr to hr. that you

are awake. Most people can not do this, so start where you can and

add an extra glass a week until you are there. Then follow through

with another gallon through out the day. Secondly, because of the

tendency of the grease to coat injured areas, there are two

homeopathic remedies that spring to mind for injuries. They are

normally thought of as injuries to the surface of the body, but an

injury, is an injury, is an injury- or at least in this case. Those

remedies are arnica 30c and calendula 30c. If it were me, myself

and I, I would alternate those remedies through out the day, making

sure I took each at least three times a day... I would do this for

at least a month and then check your cholesterol level, just to

see...

 

If you do decide to follow this protocol, please let us know how you

are progressing...

 

Be Well,

Misty

http://www..com

 

, " shirquinson "

<shirquinson> wrote:

> Hi, I just joined this group and I have a question.

> Since fats do not cause " hardening of the arteries " ,

> what does. I have had so many by-pass surgeries in

> the past 10 years that my legs look like rows of

> tracts. I have been told by different doctors that

> my problems come from high cholesterol and I must

> get it down so that the plaque will not be able

> to stick to the artery walls. I have tried low fat diets

> with out any success and now you say that all fats

> may not be the villian just certain types of fats.

> Am I stating this correctly? Please help if you will.

> About two months ago I stopped taking the different

> cholesterol lowering (statins) drugs that were prescribed

> and so far I have not notice any difference. Thanks for

> any help.

> shirley

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Thanks Misty and Everyone for trying to help me. It seemsas though my medical

doctor told me that the blockage is notcaused by cholesterol. I am not sure but

I'll find out tomorrowbecause thats when I will see him again. He and others

havetold me so many different things until I do not remember who told me what

nor what to believe anymore. I do know that I am willing to try just about

anything within reason to get this problem under control. I have already tried

the chelation (intervenious sp?) for 12 months in 2000 & 2001 but I had to stop

because I didn't have any more money to pay for the therapy which is really

expensive ($100.00 per visit five times a week) although I was notable to have

the therapy five time each week but I did have it a few times per week. Now I

read that certain fats do not cause intermittent claudication, what should I

believe? I just know that I do want my arteries cleared so the blood can run

freely. Thanks againfor all of your understanding and also to everyone else who

is trying to help. There probably is a simply solution to my problem, I just

wishthat I knew what it is. Thanks again. Also, I spend a lot of money taking

everything that has been suggested to me. I evendrink only distilled water plus

colloidal silver. I am at my wits in and feeling sorry for myself at this

moment. I drink a gallon of distilledwater daily most days. Thanks for

listening.Shirley " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke wrote:Hi Shirley &

everyone...

 

Ok,... I did the research as promised and this is what I learned...

 

The body needs to be properly hydrated, for one reason amoung many

is to keep the blood in the proper range of thickness so it can go

through the blood vessels properly... Now when we are chronically

dehydrated, the body will produce a grease to coat the vessels to

help the blood go through and to protect any damaged areas in the

vessels. What is that grease?- cholesterol!

 

So of number one importance is drinking a lot of water. I would try

to drink a gallon in the morning, the first 1/2hr to hr. that you

are awake. Most people can not do this, so start where you can and

add an extra glass a week until you are there. Then follow through

with another gallon through out the day. Secondly, because of the

tendency of the grease to coat injured areas, there are two

homeopathic remedies that spring to mind for injuries. They are

normally thought of as injuries to the surface of the body, but an

injury, is an injury, is an injury- or at least in this case. Those

remedies are arnica 30c and calendula 30c. If it were me, myself

and I, I would alternate those remedies through out the day, making

sure I took each at least three times a day... I would do this for

at least a month and then check your cholesterol level, just to

see...

 

If you do decide to follow this protocol, please let us know how you

are progressing...

 

Be Well,

Misty

http://www..com

 

, " shirquinson "

<shirquinson> wrote:

> Hi, I just joined this group and I have a question.

> Since fats do not cause " hardening of the arteries " ,

> what does. I have had so many by-pass surgeries in

> the past 10 years that my legs look like rows of

> tracts. I have been told by different doctors that

> my problems come from high cholesterol and I must

> get it down so that the plaque will not be able

> to stick to the artery walls. I have tried low fat diets

> with out any success and now you say that all fats

> may not be the villian just certain types of fats.

> Am I stating this correctly? Please help if you will.

> About two months ago I stopped taking the different

> cholesterol lowering (statins) drugs that were prescribed

> and so far I have not notice any difference. Thanks for

> any help.

> shirley

 

 

 

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Dear Shirley...

 

Thank for you posting your questions here, whether you are able to

use the information posted in response or not, I am sure there are

other people on the list that have the same questions you do... By

your asking, the answers can be shared with everyone... I am very

thankful for that.

 

As for the despair, let me offer this:

 

MIND, Despair, recovery of

MIND, Pities herself (homeo speak is generally female)

 

When I researched those two rubrics one remedy alone came up very

strongly:

Calcarea Carb.

 

It was a 4 (as high as you can go)for the despair of recovery.

It was a three- still significantly high, for the pities herself.

 

You may want to consider learning more about this Calcarea Carb.

 

As far as cost, homeopathic remedies should never be higher than $10

a piece, if they are, I would definately think twice about the

manufacturer or the seller.

 

Be Wishes,

Misty

http://www..com

 

, shirley holder

<shirquinson> wrote:

> Thanks Misty and Everyone for trying to help me. It seemsas

though my medical doctor told me that the blockage is notcaused by

cholesterol. I am not sure but I'll find out tomorrowbecause thats

when I will see him again. He and others havetold me so many

different things until I do not remember who told me what nor what

to believe anymore. I do know that I am willing to try just about

anything within reason to get this problem under control. I have

already tried the chelation (intervenious sp?) for 12 months in 2000

& 2001 but I had to stop because I didn't have any more money to pay

for the therapy which is really expensive ($100.00 per visit five

times a week) although I was notable to have the therapy five time

each week but I did have it a few times per week. Now I read that

certain fats do not cause intermittent claudication, what should I

believe? I just know that I do want my arteries cleared so the blood

can run freely. Thanks againfor all of your understanding and also

to everyone else who is trying to help. There probably is a simply

solution to my problem, I just wishthat I knew what it is. Thanks

again. Also, I spend a lot of money taking everything that has been

suggested to me. I evendrink only distilled water plus colloidal

silver. I am at my wits in and feeling sorry for myself at this

moment. I drink a gallon of distilledwater daily most days. Thanks

for listening.Shirley " Misty L. Trepke " <mistytrepke> wrote:Hi

Shirley & everyone...

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