Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 dear all iam a new entrant to the wonderful world of saibaba news.... among all the spiritual questions i think..the one that baffles me the most is the relationship between gratitude..,humbleness and strong or strength... can these qualities coexist in a man..?.normally a person who is humble is suppssed to b week...no stength to fight... the lifes battle...so because he is weak...he manuplates and pretends to b humble...same is the case with gratitude...a grateful person...in real life...pretends to b humble and gets the maximum out of a given situation..can a strong character like subash chandra bose or swami vivekananda or any other personalitiey also show the qualities of gratitide and humbleness.,compassion and full of joy and happiness..normally s strong character is associated with arrogance and pride,,,, can any one of my sai friends help me out with this enquiry...or maybe lord saibaba will come to my rescue.. om sai ram ramesh menon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 katta jayaprakash Reddy <drjpreddy Tue Dec 8, 2009 9:15 pm RE: [saibabanews] Gratitude, humbleness, strength Sairam, Mahathma Gandhi is an example of humbleness,gratitude and strong with strength which resulted in Britishers leave India.Physical strength may be associated with pride and arrogance but spiritual and mental strength is associated with greatness,goodness and universal love to strengthen the bonds among the humanity which gives good results for universal peace and goodwill. Sairam, In Sai seva, JP Reddy. ---------- Ananda Kumar <drksanand Wed Dec 9, 2009 1:06 am Re: [saibabanews] Gratitude, humbleness, strength My Dear SaiRam Brother, You are very much wrong. Only a strong person will be really capable of showing his humility. The weak person shows his weakness by being humble, and not vice-versa. Think twice and come to a decision. Your SaiRam Brother, K. S.Ananda Kumar. ---------- Sanka Tilakaratna <spbt1970 Wed Dec 9, 2009 1:06 am Re: [saibabanews] Gratitude, humbleness, strength Om Sai Ram, First welcome to Sai baba news group. To your question- What is strength is it having mussels or is it wisdom? In some of the fundamental theories of Bagawan Sai baba is Righteousness .What is this big word? this explains a straight man. A person who is riteous doesn't fight what for? it's a waste of time he'll walk away from calamities. Try and gain wisdom by reading and understanding and putting into practice. Prema vahini is good to start with. At this high level of understanding you will not need to go to people., people will come to you. Om Sri Sai Ram. Sanka. ---------- suresh babu <baburema Wed Dec 9, 2009 1:11 am Re: [saibabanews] Gratitude, humbleness, strength Brother, I feel these thoughts / doubts are common in all spiritual seekers. Very personal suggession:- - Please read & understand Bhagawath Gita (I am sure you might have read- still analise the charactors in it). - Bhagawan has mentioned - His Life is His Message. Being new to this fold please understand Swami's Life, who is physically present amongnst us to get rid of our doubts by experiencing. gratitude.., humbleness and strong or strength... these qualities coexist in a man. Have blissful time ever. Love Suresh ---------- yezhuvath suresh <suluemon Wed Dec 9, 2009 4:43 am Gratitude, humbleness, strength SAIRAM BELOVED ONES. IF A MAN ACQUIRES THE QUALITIES OF HUMBLENESS AND GRATITUDE BY PRACTISING DHARMA AND SACRIFICE, YES HE IS IN RIGHT PATH. NO NEE TO DOUBT ABOUT HIS CHARACTER I.E. HUMBLE TO SATISFY HIS SELFISH NEEDS. SAME GRATITUDE, HE IS GRATEFULLY TO GOD AND READY TO ACCEPT ANY THING IN ONE MIND. NO JOY OR SORROW, BECAUSE HE IS ALREADY READY TO SACRIFICE HIS GOOD FRUIT OF HIS ACTION AND ACCEPT THE SORROW THINGS WHICH IS JUST PASSING CLOUDS AND IS BENEFICIAL TO BE ACQUIRE MIND. ALL THESE QUALITIES ONE ACQUIRE THROUGH THE CHAIN OF SP RITUAL PATH I.E. FAITH - SADHANA - NISHKAMA ( SELFLESS SEVA TO GOD) - KNOWLEDGE (JHANAM) - SELF-KNOWLEDGE(ATMAJHANAM) - ONESS WITH GOD ( NO DIFFERENT FROM GOD) SURRENDER TO GOD AND BECAME PART OF GOD AND ENJOY THE UNIVERSAL LOVE WITH HIM AND FINALLY TOTAL MOKSHA DASAN TO GOD'S DASAN - SURESH MENON ---------- Srinivas Vaddiparti <s.vaddiparti Wed Dec 9, 2009 5:58 am Re: [saibabanews] Gratitude, humbleness, strength Sai Ram Dear Ramesh There are examples of people in whom all good qualities co-exist Did you hear about Mahatma Gandhi, even when he was dying, he said don't punish the killer. He was very powerful and the whole nation was behind him. How much humiliation he suffered when he was in South Africa ??. His one word was enough to turn the whole freedom movement to turn it violent, but he choose to fight British with peace as a weapon. There were pressures from other leaders to fight violent against British. But, he did not listen to any one. Come, and experience the services rendered by devotees at Prashanti. There are people from various walks of life, from a simple man to a very filthy business man, retired army and defence personnel, super speciality doctors, you name the profession they are there. They are highly influential, powerful (physically and also spiritually) They are very humble, down to earth..Every body forgets what they are. They know nothing except Swamy and service to human beings. The kind of service they render is totally self less. They have all the positive qualities you are looking for. Like any other issue, there may be some exceptions. But it is really.....real. Sai Ram Srinivas Sydney ---------- Sai Kriya <saikriya Wed Dec 9, 2009 10:06 am RE: [saibabanews] Gratitude, humbleness, strength Brother Ramesh Menon, You have asked very good questions. Thank you. Please post your messages once the answers are being unravelled to you. I'm a pianist. I know I cannot succeed by being arrogant. I have to be honest about my abilities. I think this will naturally bring out my humility. I must be thankful or show gratitude to those who are helping me succeed in my career as a pianist such as my teacher or people who are giving me opportunity to perform. I am sure this is a fact if we want to pursue any discipline. That does not mean we are pretending to be grateful or humble. We got to have these qualities if we have to succeed at all in any field. I think pride is not a bad thing in the sense that we have to be proud of our culture or country etc. This comes out in anyone who are confident about who or what they are. From what I have read about Swami Vivekananda or S C Bose, these were people who were very proud of their country and culture. At the same time they were very honest and did a lot of service. Swami Vivekananda used to even clean dirty streets. He didn't think that doing such work was beneath him. That shows he was very humble. I am sure lots can be said about these topics. I look forward to hearing more from other Sisters and Brothers in this group. Sai Ram Vani. ---------- Shyna Raghavan <shyna_r Wed Dec 9, 2009 1:39 pm Re: [saibabanews] Gratitude, humbleness, strength Sai Ram Dear brother, I agree that you are seeing the microscopic view of a persons qualities or rather what has driven him to be good. But if you have to see it in the most simplest of manner, u have to see the intention and clarity of deeds. There are people who do good deeds because they are afraid to commit any sin, they are afraid of the consequences. And there are people who do good, irrespective of their gains, popularity, or any selfish motives. They feel that their help or their behaviour will make a difference to atleast one person. And that is the strength. That is true humility. And talking about pretence of being humble and grateful, i beleive that it cannot hide for long . Genuinity wins till the end. A person who pretends to be humble just because he cannot fight will one day show up his weakness. This is my view brother, And to end it, Swami knows everything, So a person can make others beleive that he is virtuous, but not his soul n not God, who is within you every millisecond. ========== saibabanews , RAMESH MENON <rameshmenon2000 wrote: > > dear all iam a new entrant to the wonderful world of saibaba news....among all the spiritual questions i think..the one that baffles me the most is the relationship between gratitude..,humbleness and strong or strength... can these qualities coexist in a man..?.normally a person who is humble is suppssed to b week...no stength to fight... the lifes battle...so because he is weak...he manuplates and pretends to b humble...same is the case with gratitude...a grateful person...in real life...pretends to b humble and gets the maximum out of a given situation..can a strong character like subash chandra bose or swami vivekanandaor any other personalitiey also show the qualities of gratitide and humbleness.,compassion and full of joy and happiness..normally s strong character is associated with arrogance and pride,,,, > can any one of my sai friends help me out with this enquiry...or maybe lord saibaba will come to my rescue.. om sai ramramesh menon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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