Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Sairam and Thanks Mr.Srinivasan for your beautiful posting. All sai devotees should flood the India TV news email inbox [ mail ] to prove their presence as a Sai Devotee in this world though Shri Rajat Sharma and his team have started the Hate Campaign [must be at the behest of anti sai groups] against our beloved Sai maa. Let Swami transform this man of his ignorance like he had done to Shri RK Karanjia in the past and it will be not surprising when we can see Shri Rajat Sharma going in Nagar Sankirtan at New Delhi. Sairam papu --- On Sat, 3/1/08, Bombay Srinivasan <vsvasan99 > wrote: Bombay Srinivasan <vsvasan99[saigroup-bombaysrinivasan9] Programme onSri Sathya Sai Baba " India TV " <mail Saturday, March 1, 2008, 7:15 PM Dear Sir, I am refering to the series of programmes on SAI, on your channel. TV channels, I believe, should be best used for entertainment, and educative. Character assasination is not good. When you try to put on a programme, you are trying to project only falsehoods, and you search for participatns, who will suit this purpose. When you invite a person to support your sensational outbursts, I feel, that you should also invite somebody who can put things in proper prespective. You should know that there are millions and millions of sai devotees spread over the globe, and you are hurting their feelings. SAI Baba does not wish to go for publicty, and He is not allowing us to defend on his behalf. His only advise to us is that " TRUTH WILL PREVAIL " . Over the years, we had seen many many media peoples and the so called intellectuals, who are gloating on their ego, hoping that their views will catch the attention of the media. I have seen many of them going to oblian, and there are no traces of such people. But as Sai says, the truth prevails, and the love of SAI is spreading to every nook and corner of the earth. I will not plead that you should stop this misadventure. To hurt anybody's feelings are not decent.If you feel that this adventure will fetch you more revenue, please go ahead, and earn more and more. But one thing I would suggest is that you should also invite some personalities, who are associated with SAI over many years, so that they can also put on their views. Recently there was a wonderful episode presented in SAHARA (INDIA), wherein Sri. Padit Shivram Sharma, Mrs. Kavitha Krishna Murthi and couple of other devotees spoke about Baba. I suggest, please do invite somebody as sai devotees, in the panel, who can provide you truthful information. As a devotee of Baba for over 40 yearss, I am willing to participate in your panel, if you desire so. With Love and regards V.Srinivasan (Bombay Srinivasan) 302, Khyati Deep, Sathya Sai Complex, Chickuwadi, Borivali west, Mumbai 400092 Tel: Cell: 09323344375 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 " Julie Bauer " <jbauer Sun Mar 2, 2008 5:37 pm Re: [saibabanews] Re: Your tirade against Sri Sathyasai Baba Sairam, What a wonderful test for the Sai devotees to show their unwavering faith and love. During this testing will you become angry, will you feel injustice has been done and you need to set it right? Will you boycott the guilty? All irritation, blame and upset over things comes from the ego. The true test as I see it is to love thy enemy, do not sling mud back. Love is the greatest healer of all time. Has not Sai Baba taught that He is All, then these people that put together this TV show are also He. Pray for them to see the Grace and Light send them your love. That is when the real change will occur. I follow the teachings of Sai Baba but I am more familiar with the teachings of Jesus but in truth they are the same. Jesus teaches us that when the enemy strikes our cheek to turn the other to them. When they steal our warm coat, give them our cloak also. When we can be attacked we must remain centred in unconditional love for there is nothing else that will save us or our planet. Sai Baba is the embodiment of unconditional love, take all that He has poured upon you and share it now. Give up all attack thoughts and defence. Pass this test the Lord has put before you with Grace and say thank you for the lesson. In Love and Light I AM Julie Anne ---------- cyclopseven <no_reply > Sun Mar 2, 2008 9:06 pm Re: Your tirade against Sri Sathyasai Baba Sai Ram to one and all. I am amused reading about this. Just ponder a moment. Those in the SAI fold consider Swami as an Avatar. Some, though do not accept Him as Avatar, still have faith in HIM as a Guru, Guardian Angel etc. The important thing here is not to judge on how others view Baba. We must analyze Swami' s teaching. Baba says, HE does not need publicity, in both ways, positively as well as negatively. Who are we to worry, publicize nor criticize HIM? What other people say or do, is none of our business. There are many baseless and discriminative websites on Swami, and there going to be hundreds or millions in the futures. All that Swami need is not someone to defend HIM but genuine devotees who walk the fragrance of HIS teaching in their lives. We pray that many will benefit from Swami. Yet, we must also understand that one's past karma too plays an important role in determining a person's mental temperament and accordingly the person behaves. We should not worry about all these negation of Sai Baba or any other genuine saints, as long as we do not negate their principles and teachings. While we go about speaking morality, we must not try to moralize anyone. Divine grace will decide that. If we read the life story of Avatars and Messengers ranging from Rama, Krishna, Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad and many more, they too encountered the same problem. Only that, now with the advancement with the multimedia and telecommunication technology, truth and lies are spread at lightning speed. Ask ourself, which will last, TRUTH or FALSEHOOD? Let us pray for those unfortunate souls who are yet to taste Swami's grace. Worry not, my brothers and sisters. We do not have to be concerned with those who openly condemn Baba, but rather be alert for those who claim to be devotees without the least devotion. With that, I part with LOVE. Sai Ram ---------- " SAIpapu " <saipapu Cc: " mail " <mail Sun Mar 2, 2008 9:57 pm Re: Your tirade against Sri Sathyasai Baba Dear Prakash Sir. Nice to see you on line Sir. Is this not a miracle of Swami ?? A man born in 1917 is able to access computer ?? But i regret to inform you Sir, Baba never gives permission to defend him. Otherwise Sathyasai Central Trust would have taken up this issue. But difficult to digest negativity against the beloved mother of the millions who has never thought of himself once, who served and still continuing serving millions without any advertisement in the media. Dont consider him as God. Let him be a human. But is this the reward to be given to man at his 80s ??? Brother our silence against such issues will encourage such people to speak more lies. As an human being, as a citizen of India we dont have any duties towards such events ?? Sir, i am still an ordinary human, an ordinary follower of Swami. I am not a STHITAPRAGYAN as described by Swami. I feel i should fight in my own way with such corrupt systems and people in our country. I am helpless when my own family members were worried after seeing the programme and telephonically questioned me why this ? I simply told them to swtich off the channel. But i could not stop telephones from the sceptics to watch the telecast. I had to simply tell them, let them watch and enjoy. The channel is now useless for me. You may call me proud or whatever i dont mind. I respect you Sir as a Senior devotee of Swami. Please note, i will copy this mail to Mr.Rajat Sharma also. Let him realise my feelings. Can he tolerate if somebody makes allegation against his family ? If somebody do joke with his family on public channel ?? Can his act be called INVESTIGATING JOURNALISM ?? If the reply will be yes by you Sir, then the dooms day is not far away. Sairam Copy to : Rajat Sharma jee ---------- Harendra Singh <harendra_singh Sun Mar 2, 2008 11:01 pm India TV's -Tele Visham Sai Ram to all. Rajat Sharma has done what is expected of him- Poisioning the minds through his Tele visham program. No doubt we have been sending him mails which he may not even see, that however does not matter. We continue sending him daily mails and advise all Sai devotees through different means to stop watching India TV till Bhagawan is pleased with him and gives him sadmati so that the channel renders an apology. Sai Ram Harendra Singh Dehradun ---------- " paivalsala " <paivalsala Sun Mar 2, 2008 11:41 pm Re: Bhagwan Sri Satya Saibaba You are absolutely right. My whole family is in agreement with you. Who ever talk ill about baba, they will realise one day and that day is not far. Valsala ---------- Tejas Jaykumar <rssn99 Mon Mar 3, 2008 1:30 am Programme on Sri Sathya Sai Baba - Swami Himself Gave Permission to Defend Dear Brothers and Sisters, Shri Prakash Narain does not know that Swami had told our Radio Sai In charge Dr. G Venkataraman Sir few years back that it is the duty of devotees who have firm faith in me to defend against baseless allegations hurled by media (both electronic and print). Though we all know that Swami is not at all disturbed such media outbursts but as a devotee one has a right to put before the facts of Swami. Otherwise why we have study circles, meetings and talks about Swami. Do we take His permission for speaking in favour of Him all the time? Also when Shri Prakash Narain says whether permission is taken from Swami to defend him Shri Pappu, the answer is very simple Swami is in the heart of Shri Pappu and Whatever Swami prompts him let him do. In any case he is doing no wrong. Every Sai Devotee has freedom to write and express their feelings to India TV or to that matter any media report. Ultimately Swami is behind the entire drama. we have to play a role that has been assigned to each of us. So let us not criticize our fellow Sai Brothers and Sisters for writing to India TV. Sai Ram ? Yours in Sai Service T S Jaykumar ---------- Gnana Prasad Yayavaram <ygprasad1 Mon Mar 3, 2008 5:30 am Re: [saibabanews] Do we have to keep watching this mud slinging Dear Sir Sairam!!! I strongly feel keeping quite is not the correct one. But it is not saying that we should fight with someone. But we all should collectively should protest against it. In some of incidents, which i was told, where husband was a devotee and wife not, he pleeded swamy to change his wife. It was told that swamy given the answere " she is given a role to play " to behave like that and your are given with a role to enjoy Thee with bhajans, blessings etc AND to PROVE the same where ever require. For that swamy Himself will give us the Strength and guidance how to proceed further etc. Only thing is, first we need to prepare how we should react now. I personally feel, My Beloved Love Heart never said, come pray me!!! But when we do, fall on his feet, he accepts with More than a mother. I think we should also take senior people advise and do Something against this. If there is any mistake, I am sure swamy will correct us. But untill we resolve and at leat make some attement it is not digestable to me. Leaving everything to swamy may not be correct too.. If really swamy do not want that incident to happen, it CAN NOT HAPPEN AT ALL. So i feel that, this may be one way to unite us in one more Form???????? Please advise!!! SaiRam YGP ---------- " MANI RVS " <colonel.rvs Mon Mar 3, 2008 5:33 am Re: [saibabanews] Programme on India TV Against Our Beloved Swami Dear Sai Bretheren OHM JAI SRI SAI RAM If you really go through scriptures of various religions, none of the saints, gurus, pontiffs, avataars had been spared of this kind of ignominy by these kinds of masses; the only way to reason out with them is to keep silent, as told by Shri Kumar Mahadevan. Time will bring sanity in their minds too. If not, that is their " karma " - you and me can not change it. Let us not deviate from our routine prayers and divine belief and waste time canvassing strength and opinions all around the globe to tirade against these forces. At Lord's feet mani ---------- " G. Balasubramanian " <gbsub Mon Mar 3, 2008 5:41 am Programme on Sathya Sai Baba Dear Rajat Sharma, SAI RAM. Your channel has recently telecast certain programmes on Bhagawan Sri Sathya Sai Baba with intention to denigrate HIM and to spread scandals on HIM and with an intention to impress your channel viewers. What is the provocation for such acts which are unbecoming of you? You will do well to concentrate your energies on on News, Politics,Entertainment, Sports etc. etc. Whatever you have said or shown there are twisted out of context and proportion to suit your malicious campaign. Why d`ont you meet the 'lion in its den' rather than taking shelter in the TV studio? Have you ever visited Sri Sathya Sai Baba`s Baba`s Ashram and Institutions at Puttaparthy or Whitefield? Have you ever interviewed any true devotees of Bhagawan Baba? Did you try to verify the correctness of what they talk about HIM? Do you think that people from all countries of the world who throng Puttaparthy are fools and you are the only intelligent person under the SUN? Indulging in mudslinging on your part without verifying facts does not befit you as a TV anchorperson. Would you dare to indulge in such slanderous and malicious propaganda against criminals turned into politicians? Would you dare to say a single word against those who have swindled public funds running to hundreds of crores of rupees? Whom are you targetting next? SAI RAM ---------- " ANNIETA " <annieta2002 Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:35 am Re: TV coverage on Swami Dear All Sai Devotees, This mail is in response to nidhis letter on Swami, I absolutely agree that it was simply disgusting for some stupid magician to accuse our bhagwan as fake and baseless, i just simply switched off the tv as i have immense faith in our bhagwan and one shouldnt pay heed to such wise characters, as they think themselves to be.! There are people like vir sanghvi, and many more who think themselves to be very educated and feel baba is just propogating fame through various means....these people have no clue since they havent had a chance to be blessed. Anyways why should we pick up names, there is no use accusing anyone, each to his own faith. May baba live on this earth eternally, without paying any heed to the people who are spoiling his name. With lots of love to you all.... A very strong devotee of Satya Sai Baba. Anita Abrol. ---------- s Sridhar <swaminathan_sridhar Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:51 am Re: [saibabanews] Re: TV coverage on Swami sairam, in this context I was able to remember a part of incidence from Vivekananda's life where he was asking why the people in that area was not able to protect the shrine when this was damaged. Then the god himself asked Swami Vivekananda, who are you to protect god. Whatever is happening is against my own wish. You won't be able to protect me everywhere. " These kind of incidences are happening because of Kaliyuga. They cannot even shake the belief & faith of crores of devotees because of this false propoganda. Regards Sridhar,Rs ---------- " Ganesh " <saibhandu Mon Mar 3, 2008 7:09 am Re: Programme on Sri Sathya Sai Baba Humble Pranams At The Divine Lotus Feet Of Bhagawan Baba! Sai Ram Sai Brothers and Sai Sisters! " This world is His Play, it is not an empty dream; it has purpose and use. It is the means by which we can discover God; see Him in the beauty, grandeur, the order, the majesty of nature. these are but shadows of His glory and His Splendour. The play is His, the role is his gift, the lines are written by Him; He directs, He decides the dress and decoration, the gesture and the tone, the entrance and the exit. You have to act well the part and receive His approbation, when the curtain falls. Earn, by your efficiency and enthusiasm, the right to play higher and higher roles - that is the meaning and purpose of life. Do not worry about anything. Place yourself fully at His disposal, He knows. He has written the Play and He knows how it will end and how it will go on. Yours is but to act and retire. The Lord alone is aware of the Play, for His is the Plan! You see only the part of the Play on the stage and so it is all very confused. When the entire story is unfolded, then you will appreciate His plan, not until then; for that, you will have to get behind the screen of Maya and contact the Director Himself. While you are an actor on the stage reciting your role, you cannot grasp the inner meaning of the entire play which has the 'World' as the stage ang 'ages' as the duration. You are only actors on the stage, before the footlights. The Director who knows the Play, who assigns the roles, who gives the cues, who calls you in and puts you on - He is behind the curatin. You're a puppet, He holds the strings. You are only working out His plan. Identification with the adventure in the Play and with its success or failure. " --- Divine Discourses Of Bhagawan Baba Brothers and sisters Please note that We are missing something here.Swami has always set as an example as he simply says " My Life is My Message " . Look at Swami's life when he was growing up ,he set an example of how we should be respectful to our parents.How we should not be selfish but be selfless and now Our dear Lord is setting an example to us that in our day to day lives things like these keep happenning.But we should ignore and do not react if We are on the path of righteousness and truth. So Lets all learn from our dear Lord His Message and try to incorporate them in our daily lives and make our lives wothwhile. May Bhagawan Baba enlighten all of us ! " Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavanthu " . Jai SAi Ram! Saibhandu. ---------- Siddhi <lexusatu Mon Mar 3, 2008 8:11 am Re: [saibabanews] Re: Your tirade against Sri Sathyasai Baba Sairam- I have not seen his coverage and do not wish to. But I know for sure that if your faith is strong, you need not explain anything to anybody. Even Rams wife Sita had to walk through fire...! Do not worry, do not get angry. Let it play out. Swami is all knowing. Maybe this is his way to teach us, humnas, something too.... Sairam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 " thomasmassengale " <> Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:18 pm Re: Programme on India TV Against Our Beloved Swami Sai Ram I suppose that everyone somehow is playing their roles. I haven't seen this latest program and will not waste my time with it, but I must admit that initially all of these scandals and rumors took me through a real process. At the end of it, I realized that everyone has their own karma and own reason for playing that karma out here on earth, and I just thank God for the love that Swami has shown me, and the wisdom that He has imparted to me. I may still be a monkey, but at least I am a slightly wiser monkey thanks to His divine guidance. No matter what others have to say, Swami just keeps on with His mission. I have never seen someone give so much. His life is indeed His message and what a wonderful message it is. As for people who make such accusations about Swami, I don't see it so much as their being against Swami, but simply as people playing out karma that is beyond my understanding, but I have no doubt that He loves them as much as He loves any of us. Sai Ram fellow brothers and sisters ---------- ppatraju Cc: " R chandrasekar " <rr_chandrasekar Mon Mar 3, 2008 6:57 pm Re: [saibabanews] Programme on India TV Against Our Beloved Swami Well said. Your advice is certainly in par to what Baba is trying to teach us. Just remember that the atheist is also a child of God. If this person wants to endure more cycles of birth and death before recognizing the existence of God, then let him. We as aspiring Sai devotees should not engage in petty dialogues with him since we would risk the opportunity to achieve advancement in our respective spiritual pursuits. Also, anyone forwarding such negative discussions to other aspiring Sai devotees may risk Swami's admonishment. Therefore, instead of highlighting negative articles and comments, we should only concentrate on exchanging inspiring words from Swami to make our spiritual journeys more enjoyable. Sai Ram, Patty P. ---------- Harendra Singh <harendra_singh Mon Mar 3, 2008 11:26 pm Re: [saibabanews] Need more Saipapu Dear Soumendra, Sai Ram. This is how Hanuman and Arjuna think. Large no. of devotees particularly youth think the same way as you think. Many youth in my state have approached me in this connection. We must understand that we are not saints and tolerating injustice itself is a crime? Sri Rama Krishna Param Hamsa's story about a snake is relevant example where a saint advised a snake not to harm but must hiss to protect himself. We need to convey a message to this Channel and to the people that every rubbish can not be tolerated indefinitely. Many of us have been mailing India TV with out any response from hi?. What further action can we initiate. One is we can request all Sai Devotees to stop watching India TV channel. Going to court is another but the way Indian courts function is too discouraging. Should some young persons not go and meet this Rajat Sharma and insist him to telecast our views which should not be really difficult. Pl suggest any other action plan you or any other devotee has in mind. ---------- " Dean Pillay " <pillayd Tue Mar 4, 2008 2:08 am RE: [saibabanews] Re: Programme on Sri Sathya Sai Baba Sai Ram All Very well said Julie . We should always remember Swami is our protector not the other way around Thanks Dean Pillay ---------- shiva shiva <bsshiva Tue Mar 4, 2008 4:51 am RE: [saibabanews] Programme on India TV Against Our Beloved Swami SAIRAM The show on India TV did not bother me at all. Please understand that commercial media publishes anything they want, coz India does not make any restrictions on the freedom of publishing to any media. So, this is the outcome. Further, I have nothing against the TV show, they want matter to gain publicity and as long as they have people to watch and money to produce, sky is the limit. One has to decide what to watch, TELEVISION or TELEVISHAM(Poison). Another fact, Faith alone can confer the truth, if one doubts then not even God can help that person. To discriminate between truth and untruth, God's blessings is a MUST. Otherwise, the result is disastrous; one cannot imagine what will be the life of such person. Don't forget that this is the Kaliyuga and untruth takes the best rewards. We are moving towards total destruction and the best way to go fast, is to have a TV like India TV. Also, an Avatar is not judged only by the ability to perform miracles, or produce vibhoodi etc. This is done by magicians and many more persons having the power to do so. I don't understand why we devotees, should even consider such things shown in any media. If you give a precious stone in the hands of a monkey, it does not know to identify the stone nor admire nor use it and it might swallow it, because that is the nature of the monkey. As I said at the beginning the TV should produce shows. That it, see it as a show. No one can destroy the our Lord, He is the creator and it is like a child in the womb of a mother trying to murder the mother, remember that the mother is very compassionate by nature and it is said that our Lord is compassionate more than 1000 mothers. He knows how ignorant is MAN. I have lived with Swamy for more than 5 years and Our Swamy does not care for these things, He has come with a mission and no one can stop HIM, He will accomplish the goals and leave as He said, when He is 96 yrs old. Can the owners or the artist in the TV shows predict when they will die or be born again, nor do they know as Ramana Maharishi said 'Who am I', 'Where did I come from', Where am I going " etc., Well, Our Swamy knows that He is an avatar with a very clear vision of His goals, Himself and when and where to go " . People have to become intelligent ( " Buddhi " ), if this is lacking, then such TV shows will continue. In conclusion, If Hot is present then Cold is required, If one stays always in the AC, then the value of the AC is not felt, until one goes out in the Hot sun, If truth is to be proved, then untruth has to be there, Power of discrimination is required to identify what is good and bad, Jesus was crucified to show the world how cruel could be the so called civilized `MAN', Doubt is the Son of Maya. For me, Our Lord remains Lord and nothing can change that faith. I pray at the Lotus Feet of Bhagawan to give all Humans the Buddhi, so that can recognize the TRUTH and follow His teachings and the path. ---------- " lv_jyotil " <lv_jyotil Tue Mar 4, 2008 8:27 am Re: Programme on India TV Against Our Beloved Swami Jai Sairam, Actually we the Sai Devotees ought to be extremely gratefuly to Swami for letting us know through various experiences that He is the Avatar of this age and for helping and protecting us in all circumstances. He is the God who resides in our hearts. Those who criticise Him do not know this. Once they realise the truth they will be extremely shocked, feel guilty and later become devotees. There are many such instances. So it is not for us to bother much about what they think or say. We should just be firm in our faith in Swami and He will always be with us. Sree Puttaparthi Nilayudu Kapadunu ninnun epudu Karunakarudai Cheypatti ninnu broachunu Yepattuna Viduvakunda Yelunu ninnun - Baba The Lord of Puttaparthi Protects you always; the Ever-Merciful Holds your hand in help, Never leaves you abandoned. ---------- srinivasan vaidya <srinibalaji2000 Tue Mar 4, 2008 5:18 pm Re: [saibabanews] Do we have to keep watching this mud slinging beloved sai brothers and sisters i am dr.srinivasan vaidyanadeswaran an indian psychiatrist working in uk i have been reading a lot of responses on the blasphemous tv programme i can perfectly understand the various emotions that we all as sai devotees experience. i sincerely feel that we should not debate among ourselves on a particular response ( for eg.. an angry response) i feel as devotees it is perfectly normal for us to feel angry about any ill word about swami.lets not question that emotion. we are all spiritually at different planes but the fact is that we all hold swami dear in our hearts. why not we see this entire episode as swamis leela....perfectly possible..when our lord is the master of the universe and his divine leelas are unfathomable. i think swami wants us to see swami in all including those athiests. that will help us calm ourselves and face these things with a equivocal mindset. i think it is hard work.lets all try to discover swami in ourselves and every being on this earth..in doing so we see every one as swamis relection.. swami is paramatma driving you,me and every atom on this earth,including india tv presenters swami is holding the universe like a garland and we shall try to shine like a gem and others will follow suit i hope i have not offended anyone..it was never my intention jai sairam loka samastha sukino bhavanthu affly, dr srinivasan vaidya uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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