Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Dear Sai brothers and sisters After completion of Baghavat Geeta, did Arjuna realise Brahma Jnana ? It is not mentioned in that. Only thing is he was very close to Krishna and He give him direction for realisation. But ultimately Arjuna is not reaching that stage from where there is no rebirth. If that is the case Arjuna may be still alive in this world still seeking for that ultimate truth. In second chapter Srikrishna say that all these warriors and all others were always been there for centuries and they will continue to be there in future. There is no change of number of life in this world.etc. So is there anybody who reached that level from which there is no return. I dont think so. So Kauravas and Pandavas and other great personalities are still living in this modern world. But they are not able to remember their past lives. Even Ravana may be there . Mahatma Gandhi may be there etc. Am I correct in the above observations. Can anybody give clear cut logical explanations for all this. with universal love Baghavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba Ganesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 " kollengode99 " <kollengode99 Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:42 am Re: Doubt in Baghavat Geeta The one key point that you have missed is the Karmic burden of each individual. As Swami has said " Each one of us has come to this world with an invisible garland " around our neck of all the good & bad karmas that we have done thru many births. Each one of us must repay that Karma by bearing the consequences of those actions. We get liberation & merge with the source or God, once we have exhausted all those Karmas or when our " slate is clean " . Swami does reduce the Karmic consequences for few " deserving devotees " either reducing the suffering or totally taking it over using his Grace. One question may persist. Since we are continually indulge in Karmas thru thought, word, & deed, is it ever possible to escape the consequences & make the " slate clean " ? Yes, the answer is again given by Sai Krishna in Bhagawad Githa. That is called as Nishkama Karma or Karma Phala Thyaga or giving up thr fruits of all actions & offering all Karmas & their results at the Lotus feet of the Lord so that He takes over all actions & their consequences. Finally we will be liberated & merge back into that source from which we all emerged. ---------- divyadeep wadhwa <divyadeep_wadhwa Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:36 pm Re: [saibabanews] Doubt in Baghavat Geeta Sri Sai Ram to all, This is in reply to Ganesh. Your knowledge is limited in its intrepatation and you pose many suppositions. Yes, many great saints and gurus have reached a stage where they do not need to return unless instructed by the Lord. Ashwathama from the Mahabharat is still alive today as he was cursed. Others reached higher planets. Yet some others reached to a point of complete liberation. Souls are eternal, so when Krishna says in second chapter all the warriors were here and will always be, he means that soul never dies. Not even after liberation. Even Ravana is liberated. During time of death, who ever remebered the name of Lord or was in his presence (such as Ravan, he was there next to Ram), all have been liberated. When a soul is liberated it can come back on instruction of Lord. When a soul migrates to higher planetary systems it is due to their pious deed. When pious bank balance is over, souls fall down to lower planetart systems. Hope this clarifies your doubt. Sai Ram, --Deep ---------- " MANI RVS " <colonel.rvs Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:24 pm Re: [saibabanews] Doubt in Baghavat Geeta Dear Sair Brother OHM JAI SRI SAI RAM Does it really matter now, even if they are alive now? Since Lord Krishna had emphatically mentioned that there is no re-birth for the person who had witnessed his VISWARUPA, I do not think, Arjuna is born again. The messages are more important to adhere in our daily life than examining such peripherals. Have we done our Karma correctly? Have we done it without attachment? Have we offered whatever being done at His feet? Have we taken care of down trodden? Have we contributed to the welfare of this soceity at large? The answers to these questions will make the " self- analysis " a meaningful one and our life satisfying. At Lord's feet mani ---------- sandy Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:54 pm Re: [saibabanews] Doubt in Baghavat Geeta Sai Ram I believe that all souls have a very special role to play and were all part of a really great part of our history. Maybe their only role was to be the way they were and go back to godhead, maybe self realization was not part of their karmic destiny, maybe they do walk this earth. It does not really matter who is who as the only acknowledgement/realization one should seek is from within and the supreme, anything else is from the lower ego.... As for Gandhiji(Bapu) - yes, he has incarnated and has taken a female form and lives in South Africa. He had much good karma to reap and the role of parent and spouse to fulfill which was never properly fulfilled in other life times. But with humility, doesnt feel the need to say anything about who 'she' really is/was, as it is this lifetimes lessons that matter the most....inevitably we are all one great spirit - cosmic love..... I hope this helps you in some way.... aum sai ram sandhiya ps there are many ascended masters who walk the earth plane helping us mere mortals attain self realization - Babaji is one of them....and bodhisatva's ( one stage below enlightenment) who have chosen to help humanity reach ascension ( kwan yin is an example).... saibabanews , kgs7691 <no_reply wrote: > > Dear Sai brothers and sisters > > After completion of Baghavat Geeta, did Arjuna realise Brahma Jnana ? > > It is not mentioned in that. Only thing is he was very close to > Krishna and He give him direction for realisation. But ultimately > Arjuna is not reaching that stage from where there is no rebirth. > > If that is the case Arjuna may be still alive in this world still > seeking for that ultimate truth. > > In second chapter Srikrishna say that all these warriors and all > others were always been there for centuries and they will continue to > be there in future. There is no change of number of life in this > world.etc. > > So is there anybody who reached that level from which there is no > return. I dont think so. > > So Kauravas and Pandavas and other great personalities are still > living in this modern world. But they are not able to remember their > past lives. Even Ravana may be there . Mahatma Gandhi may be there etc. > > Am I correct in the above observations. Can anybody give clear cut > logical explanations for all this. > > > with universal love Baghavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba > > > Ganesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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