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Thanks to: Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi (D: Devotee, M: Sri Ramana Maharshi)

 

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D.: What I mean is this. You are a Perfect Being; I am a sinner. You tell me that I being a sinner must be reborn in order to perfect myself?

 

M.: No, I do not say so. On the other hand I say that you have no birth and therefore no death.

 

D.: Do you mean to say that I was not born?

 

M.: Yes, you are now thinking that you are the body and therefore confuse yourself with its birth and death. But you are not the body and you have no birth and death.

 

D.: Do you not uphold the theory of rebirth?

 

M.: No. On the other hand, I want to remove your confusion that you will be reborn. It is you who think that you will be reborn. See for whom this question arises. Unless the questioner is found, the questions can never be set at rest.

 

D.: This is no answer to my question.

 

M.: On the other hand, this is the answer to elucidate the point and all other doubts as well.

 

D.: This will not satisfy all others.

 

M.: Leave others alone. If you take care of yourself, others can take care of themselves.

 

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M.: Reincarnation can only be so long as there is ignorance. There is no incarnation either now, nor was there before, nor will be hereafter. This is the truth.

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D.: Has God a form?

 

M.: Who says so?

 

D.: Well, if God has no form, is it proper to worship idols?

 

M.: Leave God alone because He is unknown. What about you? Have you a form?

 

D.: Yes. I am this and so and so.

 

M.: So then, you are a man with limbs, about three and a half cubits high, with beard, etc. Is it so?

 

D.: Certainly.

 

M.: Then do you find yourself so in deep sleep?

 

D.: After waking I perceive that I was asleep. Therefore by inference I remained thus in deep sleep also.

 

M.: If you are the body why do they bury the corpse after death? The body must refuse to be buried.

 

D.: No, I am the subtle jiva within the gross body.

 

M.: So you see that you are really formless; but you are at present identifying yourself with the body.

So long as you are formful why should you not worship the formless God as being formful?

The questioner was baffled and perplexed.

 

 

 

love all serve all (b. viswanathan, humbly ever, from http://azhagi.com)you have no parents. u r the birthless, deathless, limitless, universal Athma

http://nisargadatta.net, http://davidgodman.org, http://sriramanamaharshi.org

 

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