Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Sairam and thanks Mahadevan Bhai for your timely postings on relevant issues. Today in SAI INSPIRES [sunday Special] a hint is given on this issue and Prof.Anantaraman's painful revealation about actions Sai devotees. I had pointed out to several sai family members not to be CRAZY like others. Sai Devotees should be STHITAPRAGNYA [Dukhesu Udbignomana Sukhesu Bigataspruha as taught in BHAGWAD GITA] but unfortunately i have to say that We, the sai followers [we cant call ourselves Devotees because few of us are having the qualities of a Devotee] are also part of this Society, which is full of self centred, jealous and narrow minded people [and many of us are also no exception]. I was pained to learn from other Sai devotees visiting Parthi, how people are indisciplined to have Swami's darshan , How last time during VISWA VIRATA DARSHAN episode, People blocked Swami in the Airport [Dont know whether same is out of Bhakti !!!!]. Feel we should not point out fingers. Each of ourselves to follow Swami's teachings in our respective fields and the World should see Swami on our face and not in the moon. Please pray for successful presentation of our Orissa Festival at Parthi during November 1st/2nd week. As usual like last 32 years Swami has not called me to Puttaparthi for this occassion also. I am not purturbed as Swami has done/doing best for each of us. Dear brother, dont worry for any adverse comments in this forums for your postings. Sairam papu - kumar mahadevan saibabanews ; Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:26 PM [saibabanews] A Perspective from Prasanthi Nilayam Sent by a Dear Sai Brother from Prasanthi Nilayam ; Sai Ram to one and all . Swami has been giving Wonderful and Divine Darshans in the past few days. Two groups of Devotees had put up some Programmes, one from Prakasam district of Andhra Pradesh and the other from Assam. During Darshan's Swami has been going around in His Chair in Kulwant hall and also blessing many Devotees and Students. Swami has also been spending time outside and also collecting Letters and speaking to many People. Everyone has been having Wonderful Darshan of Swami for the past two to three days. I want to share with you a most important thing. These are only personal Views which should not be misunderstood. There are many mails going around about Swami appearing on the moon. In Prasanthi Nilayam nothing like that has been visible. What I heard was that the Outline of Swami's Divine Face was seemingly visible. well, let it be so.. But are we Swami's Devotees deserving to be called Crazy People? Iam really sorry to say that people have been passing around some Photoshop images, etc? . The Question here is that Are we trying to convince others about HIS divinity or are we wanting to convince ourselves about Swami's Divinity ? I very Sincerely Feel that if the face of our Divine Lord was seen, well then Let it be so. Let people who have seen talk about it, Let them Enjoy the Divine Miracle. But it not good to spread Photo Shop Images to convince others. Does Swami's Divinity need any convincing, Who are we to convince others of Swami's Divinity ?. When Swami wills every single person will be convinced.The Important Question is that should anyone of us need to do such things like photoshop imaging, etc to convince others? I am getting mails in which there is pic of moon in which outline of Swami is seen. I am sorry if Iam sounding very harsh, But one feels so terrible reading the unwanted comments against the same issue. It is so painful. Here Swami is so calm and unperturbed and each and everything is Normal for Our Divine Lord. Please do not misunderstand me that Iam not believing in such phenomena, anything is possible for Our Lord, But let us understand that on such issues, our silence is important.. Please do tell all our Fellow Sai Brothers and Sisters that it is important to keep such issues to ourselves and not publicise, Swami's Miracles are His Visiting Cards, Swami knows how and when to talk about anything and tell anything to anyone. Om Sai Ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Meenakshi Chintapalli <mkchintapalli Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:25 am Re: [saibabanews] A Perspective from Prasanthi Nilayam Sai Ram Brothers and Sisters Finding Swami as an incarnation will always be an individual experience. Nobody can convince teh other, as in Sri Krishna Leela, even after baby Krishna killed Pootana a huge demon, Kaliya was conquered by a baby Krishna, only few were convinced about the divinity. In sharing an experience by many at the same time, there is a purpose behind the leela and the leela becomes a fact when multiple people report from different parts of teh world. But I personally felt that we should see him in everything, understand that the moon itself is his one eye, and when we understand his teachings to the core, we need to see him in us and the people around, particularly try to see Swami in one who shows animosity towards the individual. Swami is the eternal witness to all our excitement and ignorance anyway. He helps us fall into the illusion and makes the senses see through teh illusion also. Sai Ram Meena Ch. ---------- akshay mehta <smitakshay Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:35 am Fwd: Unable to deliver your message Mr.Mahadevan. I fully agree with you, that our swami doe's n't require any kind of publicity.On his wish only,a person will understand his divinity.We do know, that he is omnipresent god and we do not require any kind of miracle to assess his divinity, cause we must have realised it one or many in past, each of us,we go on expecting from him, as human being with endless relationship & demands , ti fullfill our commitments,we have always asked his help, his miracles only have realised us that he is truly god. Now the fact what we know, do n't you think that it is part of your duty to educate the fellow citizen, to part your knowledge. Swami does n't tell you to bring in more & more devotees to him, but I feel, such miracles when it happens, it is only for those who are being deprived of his darshan, world over, it was for them, to understand, what we are , what swami is,what we feel about swami, what is his teaching to us, our behavior, our thinking, our way of life only will make them understand that where truly they can find peace, love. Naturally with swami only. so I do not think, to educate someone is not bad, people may take it either in positive manner or otherwise, that again depend on how your presentation is, but surely, let people know more about swami. It will not be wise to keep your wisdom,knowledge confined to you, let it spread for betterment of this society, let more & more people know about SAIMAA. You & I really may not require this kind of miracles, but, it is part of language for some people to know swami. I hope & expect , am not hurting anyone, but we all sai devotees, should educate the world the importance of teaching of SAI, that is part of duty to your fellow citizens, society. SAIRAM Smita Akshay Mehta. ---------- R R <radheyr Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:20 pm RE: [saibabanews] A Perspective from Prasanthi Nilayam Om Sri Sai Raam...Mahadevan Bhai.... Thank you for your wonderful input! Straight from Parthi....as well as detailed info regarding all the happenings at Parthi. However...I totally agree with you regarding the edits made through Photoshop or other graphic images..where we do not have to use such medias for exhibiting Swami's miraculous and divine grace through these images... On that same note, I do not agree with you where you made a comment that this is to be kept in secret. By expressing what you see, is this publicizing it? NO...It is merely making a connection to the outer world of what is going on...as you know...Swami is definitely OMNIPRESENT, OMNIPOTENT and OMNISCIENT...isn't this a reality? Swami is showing his grace through out the world. What is happening is Parthi might not be happening elsewhere...what is happening elsewhere might not necessarily happen in parthi. From your note, I get the very distinct feeling that you are a disbeliever of Swami's grace elsewhere.....why is this so? Your grace will be different to others and vice versa....never under estimate the divine powers of the almighty Lord of Lords...Swami has said that he will be showing his divinity more and more...why should there be doubts now? Do you think all of these other divine souls are imagining such divine occurrences?I experienced Swami's grace, I did not see Swami's face but I saw something very similar.. and I know it is not a mirage. Swami's glories should be shared with everyone -how else will the disbeliever become a believer??? Om Sai Raam Radhe [ ®Åе£¥] **Our Life Is A Gift From God What We Do With That Life, Is Our Gift To God.** ---------- " SAIpapu " <saipapu Cc: <mahadevan12 Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:10 am Re: [saibabanews] A Perspective from Prasanthi Sairam and thanks Mahadevan Bhai for your timely postings on relevant issues. Today in SAI INSPIRES [sunday Special] a hint is given on this issue and Prof.Anantaraman's painful revealation about actions Sai devotees. I had pointed out to several sai family members not to be CRAZY like others. Sai Devotees should be STHITAPRAGNYA [Dukhesu Udbignomana Sukhesu Bigataspruha as taught in BHAGWAD GITA] but unfortunately i have to say that We, the sai followers [we cant call ourselves Devotees because few of us are having the qualities of a Devotee] are also part of this Society, which is full of self centred, jealous and narrow minded people [and many of us are also no exception]. I was pained to learn from other Sai devotees visiting Parthi, how people are indisciplined to have Swami's darshan , How last time during VISWA VIRATA DARSHAN episode, People blocked Swami in the Airport [Dont know whether same is out of Bhakti !!!!]. Feel we should not point out fingers. Each of ourselves to follow Swami's teachings in our respective fields and the World should see Swami on our face and not in the moon. Please pray for successful presentation of our Orissa Festival at Parthi during November 1st/2nd week. As usual like last 32 years Swami has not called me to Puttaparthi for this occassion also. I am not purturbed as Swami has done/doing best for each of us. Dear brother, dont worry for any adverse comments in this forums for your postings. Sairam papu ---------- " ssk_1959 " <siva_1959 Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:29 pm Re: A Perspective from Prasanthi Nilayam Dear SAI Brothers and Sisters, I fully concur with Mr.Kumar Mahavevan's views. When too many critics who pose themseselves as rationalists wait for every opportunity to establish their stand, this type of acts of certain devotees contribute to more damage to Sai movements than glorify them. LET US BE SILENT ABOUT HIS BLISS, as Swami often says. LET US BE SILENT IN THE KINGDOM OF BABA. let us be not over enthuastic in spreading Swami's Glory. Jai SaiRam, Sivarajakumar Sitharaman ---------- " bsm_sairam " <bsm_sairam Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:11 pm Re: A Perspective from Prasanthi Nilayam sairam brother please don'tpay any attention to what so called rationalist ,skeptics,non devotees said or will say --we all know who is SWAMI--but very interesting fact in this great episode is that many of us came to know about this moon miracle by non devotees first --this means many more people r coming to sai fold---it seems you r worrying about anti sai propagandas in some Tv channels ,news papers-- I also fell pain sometimes--but we should remember that the presence of good is felt when there is bad---let them speak what they they want--it simply reflects their ego-ignorance--jealousy another fact is ---the moon darshan has been observed by people both devotees & non devotees all over world---so this is not personal experience --this is mass experience--some may say Indians are superstious but about those in USA ,UK,BRAZIL,GREENLAND---they also have the same divine vision----remember the satelite pictuer of Puttaparthy showing SWAMI's image on it--our LOVE has taken such a BEAUTIFUL FORM that one can see HIM in any object jai sairam yours Bodhisatwa mohanty ---------- Ramu-Sundaram BNP Paribas Home <gsv_ramu Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:08 pm Re: A Perspective from Prasanthi Nilayam Sai Ram to all. I agree with the views expressed by Kumar Mahadevan. The circulation of photoshop images with color and black and white photos should not have been done. Seeing them some critics have used these photos in their web sites to " prove " that no event has happenned and devotees are circulating this kind of material. Secondly, these photos were circulated by devotees to their friends groups to say that Swami appeared. At some point when I received such photo, I want to send a message that what was being circulated is only photoshop material and not the real scene. But I avoided not wanting to add to the confusion in non devotees. Those who have seen the form in the moon are lucky. Let that remain so. Sairam to all. ---------- cs rao <mrcsrao Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:37 pm A Perspective from Prasanthi Nilayam Very true. Regards. csrao ---------- Bala Chandran <saicanran Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:07 pm Re: [saibabanews] A Perspective from Prasanthi Nilayam Sai Ram Bro Kumar and all, Thank you for your views. Let us not forget what Swami has said countless number of times - " TRANSFORMATION NOT INFORMATION " Sai Ram Bala Chandran Penang Malaysia saibabanews , kumar mahadevan <mahadevan12 wrote: > > Sent by a Dear Sai Brother from Prasanthi Nilayam ; > > Sai Ram to one and all . > > Swami has been giving Wonderful and Divine Darshans in the past few days. Two groups of Devotees had put up some Programmes, one from Prakasam district of Andhra Pradesh and the other from Assam. During Darshan's Swami has been going around in His Chair in Kulwant hall and also blessing many Devotees and Students. Swami has also been spending time outside and also collecting Letters and speaking to many People. Everyone has been having Wonderful Darshan of Swami for the past two to three days...... 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Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Sai Ram Brothers and Sisters All Happenings , All Beings, All Which Is, Is Our Swami's Leela and His Advent.... As put out and written by Kumara brother and also the various posts of Azahi which details the entire gamut of our philosophical heritage...Ashtavakra Rishi's gita, the eloquence and the simplicity with which he has extolled and said in conversation with Rishi Janaka very profound albeit simple statements which can be understood when all mind thought and the entire storehouse of knowledge finds no relevance , since they are conquered and we know there is none other than The Us.... The advent of our Sai Narayana and in this incarnation, it is indeed our good fortune and to the utter bewilderment and extreme joy, each and every happening unveiled and revealed by Our Beloved Swamy is to underline and make apparent How Precious and How very noble each and every One of Us Is, and to take and make our Own all of His Leelas, each and every one of them, weave into our fabric and come to the realization , by Being led to It by Our Narayana in Person... Take your time , one step at a time and remove the clouds or wait till they move on and become one With Shri SathyaSai Krishna Swaroopa..time and tide waits for none.... yours-in-saiconsciousness nayanika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 I do not at times understand the workings of the physical world. I walk by faith not by sight. But I have faith in my spirituality and my Baba. He has told us many times, not interview, inner view. I try to help ever, hurt never. I am a work in progress, not perfect, trying to move ever closer to God. Whatever helps people realize or draw closer to Baba must be good. I am thankful for his love and his grace, my intention is to earn more of both by being a good human being. Living as best I can his teachings. I would think that whatever brings us closer to God, whether it be visions or Baba in the moon or anything, then it is helpful in our individual journeys toward enlightenment. From a very physical being, which I am, I don't think I can ever understand the true workings of God. I can only try. I respect all of the views expressed here, I believe they are all heading us towards the same goal. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 My thoughts on this:Ditto as what Joe said below... " I do not at times understand the workings of the physical world. I walk by faith not by sight. But I have faith in my spirituality and my Baba. He has told us........ " On 10/31/07, Diane Ayott <dijoe2 wrote: I do not at times understand the workings of the physical world. I walk by faith not by sight. But I have faith in my spirituality and my Baba. He has told us many times, not interview, inner view. I try to help ever, hurt never. I am a work in progress, not perfect, trying to move ever closer to God. Whatever helps people realize or draw closer to Baba must be good. I am thankful for his love and his grace, my intention is to earn more of both by being a good human being. Living as best I can his teachings. I would think that whatever brings us closer to God, whether it be visions or Baba in the moon or anything, then it is helpful in our individual journeys toward enlightenment. From a very physical being, which I am, I don't think I can ever understand the true workings of God. I can only try. I respect all of the views expressed here, I believe they are all heading us towards the same goal. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Aum Sai Ram, I fully agree with the point of view of Dear Sai devotee (no name available).we do not need to convince others of HIS divinity. If anybody sees these miracles, let them see and beleive, we should not try to convince them about this. Sai RAM Jitender Verma 09872011167 , kumar mahadevan <mahadevan12 wrote: > > Sent by a Dear Sai Brother from Prasanthi Nilayam ; > > Sai Ram to one and all . > > Swami has been giving Wonderful and Divine Darshans in the past few days. Two groups of Devotees had put up some Programmes, one from Prakasam district of Andhra Pradesh and the other from Assam. During Darshan's Swami has been going around in His Chair in Kulwant hall and also blessing many Devotees and Students. Swami has also been spending time outside and also collecting Letters and speaking to many People. Everyone has been having Wonderful Darshan of Swami for the past two to three days. > > I want to share with you a most important thing. These are only personal Views which should not be misunderstood. There are many mails going around about Swami appearing on the moon. In Prasanthi Nilayam nothing like that has been visible. > > What I heard was that the Outline of Swami's Divine Face was seemingly visible. well, let it be so.. But are we Swami's Devotees deserving to be called Crazy People? Iam really sorry to say that people have been passing around some Photoshop images, etc? . The Question here is that Are we trying to convince others about HIS divinity or are we wanting to convince ourselves about Swami's Divinity ? I very Sincerely Feel that if the face of our Divine Lord was seen, well then Let it be so. Let people who have seen talk about it, Let them Enjoy the Divine Miracle. But it not good to spread Photo Shop Images to convince others. Does Swami's Divinity need any convincing, Who are we to convince others of Swami's Divinity ?. When Swami wills every single person will be convinced. > > The Important Question is that should anyone of us need to do such things like photoshop imaging, etc to convince others? I am getting mails in which there is pic of moon in which outline of Swami is seen. > > I am sorry if Iam sounding very harsh, But one feels so terrible reading the unwanted comments against the same issue. It is so painful. Here Swami is so calm and unperturbed and each and everything is Normal for Our Divine Lord. Please do not misunderstand me that Iam not believing in such phenomena, anything is possible for Our Lord, But let us understand that on such issues, our silence is important.. > > Please do tell all our Fellow Sai Brothers and Sisters that it is important to keep such issues to ourselves and not publicise, Swami's Miracles are His Visiting Cards, Swami knows how and when to talk about anything and tell anything to anyone. > > Om Sai Ram > > > > > > Love shopping? Click here to find the best shops in every city. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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