Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Dear Sai Brothers and Sisters,, Aum Sri Sai Ram Koti Koti Pranams to Our Bhagwan, This msg is in reply to Dr.Satyanarayanan's reply regarding the recent incident. I am a Sai devotee since childhood and i always pray to swami very sincerely. How much i stand in His ( SWAMI'S) rating - I do not know, but I am always making an earnest attempt to be a good Human being. Even though Dr.Satyanarayana's reply is wonderful, I have some clarifications to seek from Dr.Satyanarayana: Sir, You will agree that we Sai devotees always give all praise to Swami - for even the smallest of good things to the biggest good things that happens to us in our day to day lives - eg:- By swami's grace i could catch the bus , to By swami's grace i escaped a major accident and saved my life. We all admit the great miraculous powers of our beloved Swami - and we all know that NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR LORD. We also know that our Swami is "Abath Banthava" and has a "heart of a thousand Mothers". There have been several messages in this very site, thanking our beloved Bhagawan for miraculous escapes/ healings in life etc etc., Whenever god does not interfere in the bad happenings in our life - we attribute it to Karma Whenever even the smallest good happpens, we willingly attribute it to His Grace. I am confused about where the actual line of god's grace stops- for karma to take over- because I believe gods grace has no rest and should be ever available especially for earnest believers. My special request to our Group kindly not to edit this message and publish this with Dr.Satyanarayana's reply - as this is one of the common questions CONFRONTED SILENTLY in several Sai devotees minds. If there is any "Aparatha" in asking a question like this I pray to Swami earnestly - to forgive me and bless me SAIRAM TO ALL, FROM A LONG TIME SWAMI DEVOTEE Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Koti pranams to Bhagawan Sai Ram to brothers and sisters, This is in reply to a message posted by ‘a long time swami devotee’ under the heading of ‘Clarification requested from Dr.Satyanarayanan’ As I understand ‘Apad Bhandhavaya’ has a deeper meaning. I see this as Bhagawan protects us as a brother form dangers or calamities which prevent us on achieving ever lasting peace which has no further suffering. On the other hand, I believe, we cannot fully escape from critical bad deeds which we have done (in this or previous births) which come as bad Karmas. Eventually, I managed to analyse these incidents by subjecting myself into a similar hazardous situation. As I believe, it is difficult to define karma (which are previous birth’s good and bad deeds) and how they activate on each person at various times. This is difficult to visualise by a normal person like me – but of course, the avatar of God can visualise these karmic patterns very clearly as well as their cause and effects in past, present and the future. Therefore due to this restricted insight, there are many things I cannot give explanations as to ‘why such thing happened to me’. I have no ability to see my past and future but only see the present. My inherited inability of reasoning should not create a field to cultivate seeds of doubts which would blemish in my correct view. One thing for sure, that is divine dwells in me, so divine is aware of what happens. So the question arise why divine interference was not seen by others, to protect me at that time when I face a detrimental situation and suffered from the consequences. I do not believe others can answer this other than divine himself. If such an intervention had not happened at all, I can think of a reason. Depending on the bad Karmic pattern which I was experience at that time, such intervention may not happen to prevent me facing a long-term severe suffering in my next births (future), so that I can spent what ever bad karmic residue left with me in this birth (present) and attain eternal peace from my next birth. By nullifying whatever critical bad Karmic residues by suffering their consequences in this birth, Bhagawan will be able to give me the most precious gift of all times, in my next birth. The Gift I am asking the Bhagawan is eternal peace without any sufferings and sorrow. So, this way Bhagawan is a true ‘Apad Bhandhava’ to me. Above is my view based on my limited knowledge – please forgive me and correct me if I am not correct in here. I pray forgiveness from Bhagawan for any mistakes in my above view. Sai Ram to all A Sai Sevaka On Behalf Of Ramaprasad Uma Wednesday, 13 February 2008 4:53 PM [sBOI-post] Clarification requested from Dr.Satyanarayanan Dear Sai Brothers and Sisters,, Aum Sri Sai Ram Koti Koti Pranams to Our Bhagwan, This msg is in reply to Dr.Satyanarayanan's reply regarding the recent incident. I am a Sai devotee since childhood and i always pray to swami very sincerely. How much i stand in His ( SWAMI'S) rating - I do not know, but I am always making an earnest attempt to be a good Human being. Even though Dr.Satyanarayana's reply is wonderful, I have some clarifications to seek from Dr.Satyanarayana: Sir, You will agree that we Sai devotees always give all praise to Swami - for even the smallest of good things to the biggest good things that happens to us in our day to day lives - eg:- By swami's grace i could catch the bus , to By swami's grace i escaped a major accident and saved my life. We all admit the great miraculous powers of our beloved Swami - and we all know that NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR LORD. We also know that our Swami is " Abath Banthava " and has a " heart of a thousand Mothers " . There have been several messages in this very site, thanking our beloved Bhagawan for miraculous escapes/ healings in life etc etc., Whenever god does not interfere in the bad happenings in our life - we attribute it to Karma Whenever even the smallest good happpens, we willingly attribute it to His Grace. I am confused about where the actual line of god's grace stops- for karma to take over- because I believe gods grace has no rest and should be ever available especially for earnest believers. My special request to our Group kindly not to edit this message and publish this with Dr.Satyanarayana's reply - as this is one of the common questions CONFRONTED SILENTLY in several Sai devotees minds. If there is any " Aparatha " in asking a question like this I pray to Swami earnestly - to forgive me and bless me SAIRAM TO ALL, FROM A LONG TIME SWAMI DEVOTEE Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Dear Sai brothers and Sisters, Sairam. Nice to read varied responses to the issue of accpeting Karmic consequences. True, as some of your have said, it is quite easy to advise others, but when it comes to experiencing the reality by ourselves, we often stumble and need support. Tomorrow when I have to face a difficulty personally, all the explanations given by me will not support me, rather, I might require some else to pacify me and convince me with all the explanations once again. But rising to higher consciousness is all about making ourselves stronger and stronger day by day to accpet the reality of life as it comes. Even the great ones heralded by history and epics are no exception to confusion and questioning God in the initial stage or at the times of intense pain or atleast at the climax of their lives. They too wonder why God is allowing difficulties to rip their livess off. However as they move forward crossing the experience, they emerge out so pure and get totally convinced that God's ways are always unquestionable and we need to appreciate and understand it rather than questioning. Ultimately, the soothing and comforting hands of the Lord comes to their rescue and heals them of the wounds they had, finally teaching them that life is all about achieving perfect detachment and absolute faith in the Lord. We need to note from the epics that our difficulties are no smaller than the difficulties undergone by great men in epics. History and epics have repeated such instances hundreds and thousands of times only to teach us that we need to accpet the reality of life and accept the will of God as it comes. Let me quote one or two highlights here. The pangs of suffering were mounting up in the lives of Pandavas during their exile. Finally the war arrived. On the fourteenth day of the battle, Abhimanyu, the son of Arjuna was killed cruelly. Towards the end of the battle, Aswattama wanted to avenge for the death of Kauravas. One night, He mistook Upapandavas ( the five sons of Pandavas) as Pandavas themselves and killed all of them while they were at sleep. The nest morning saw all the five children killed and words cannot explain how the five would have felt witnessing the cruel and horrible end of their children all at once. In fact, with the death of abhimanyu and their five children, the entire Pandava clan appeared to have come to an end. Krishna was all the while staying with them comforting and consoling. They blamed Krishna, pooled up their charges on Him for not saving their children, but had to accpt His divine play. Fine, this is not the end. After the war, Abhimanyu's wife who was pregnant was supposed to give birth to a baby. All hopes were on her as the protector of their clan. But because of the cruel plot of Aswattama once again, the child was rendered lifeless at birth due to an astra used by him earlier to kill the foetus. Just imagine looking at the lifeless baby how all of them would have felt. in fact Arjuna went to the extent of charging krishna that he was the destroyer of his clan. Krishna just accepted his blames as he would accept praise. Finally, the touch of Krishna could restore life into the baby. They came to know only later that Krishna had entered the womb earlier in the form of blue light to safeguard the foetus from the astra used by Aswattama. Jubilant celebrations were all around. When we undergo difficulties, the ways of God will certainly appear cruel. During difficulties, the clouds of misery and confusion blind us and we do not seem to understand the reality of life. However, once the veils of clouds clear and we look back the journey we took, there is no more remorse or grief. we really do feel that life has shaped us into a better human eing in the process of chiseling us with difficulties. Though difficulties of the present are a horror, as we look back, they were in fact a blessing to refine and reform us. Imagine we are taking an adventurous trip on the road of horror. We scream, we wail, we cry and repent for having resorted to this road, finally, once we complete the journey, we relax and say, Yes, I have done it. Now, only a sense of great achievement remains in us. Life is all about that. The only difference is adventure is what we accept ourselves, but the difficulties of life are what are given by life for us to take up as challenges and work out our way. In the life of every devotee, God has invariably placed a cruel test in the life of every devotee to see whether he sticks on to absolute faith. Is that not our experience and understanding too? Provided God is omnipotent, provided he is the most merciful one, provided his love is that of thousand mothers, can He not prevent a suffering or calamity in the life of His beloved child before it comes. He can easily do that. But why He allows it to happen is the reason only known to Him and we need to accept it as His divine Prasad. Perhaps he wants to check the extent of surrender, total faith and detachment in us. Loving Sairams and may Sai bless all of us with the wisdom to understand His ways, Dr. A. Sathya Narayanan Ramaprasad Uma <umaramaprasad wrote: Dear Sai Brothers and Sisters,,Aum Sri Sai RamKoti Koti Pranams to Our Bhagwan,This msg is in reply to Dr.Satyanarayanan's reply regarding the recent incident.I am a Sai devotee since childhood and i always pray to swami very sincerely.How much i stand in His ( SWAMI'S) rating - I do not know, but I am always making an earnest attempt to be a good Human being.Even though Dr.Satyanarayana's reply is wonderful, I have some clarifications to seek from Dr.Satyanarayana:Sir, You will agree that we Sai devotees always give all praise to Swami - for even the smallest of good things to the biggest good things that happens to us in our day to day lives - eg:- By swami's grace i could catch the bus , to By swami's grace i escaped a major accident and saved my life.We all admit the great miraculous powers of our beloved Swami - and we all know that NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR LORD.We also know that our Swami is "Abath Banthava" and has a "heart of a thousand Mothers".There have been several messages in this very site, thanking our beloved Bhagawan for miraculous escapes/ healings in life etc etc.,Whenever god does not interfere in the bad happenings in our life - we attribute it to KarmaWhenever even the smallest good happpens, we willingly attribute it to His Grace.I am confused about where the actual line of god's grace stops- for karma to take over- because I believe gods grace has no rest and should be ever available especially for earnest believers.My special request to our Group kindly not to edit this message and publish this with Dr.Satyanarayana's reply - as this is one of the common questions CONFRONTED SILENTLY in several Sai devotees minds.If there is any "Aparatha" in asking a question like this I pray to Swami earnestly - to forgive me and bless meSAIRAM TO ALL,FROM A LONG TIME SWAMI DEVOTEE Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Regards, Yours Sincerely, Dr. A. Sathya Narayanan, M.A., PGDICP, M.S., M.Phil., M.Ed., Ph.D. Serve for Universal Peace through Human Excellence Mobile: 9941209407 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 ear sairamthe answer has been given v.clearly by our Lord on many occasions,but the most recent is in Sathym Shivam Sundaram vol VI.,the incident of HIS saving the life of sri T G Krishnamurthy and then saying that" I did not save him but it is due to Karmaphala of all the Good and Selfless deeds of Service which,he,always was dedicating to LORD and attributing to His Grace"Sathya Narayanan Anantharaman <saikrupaaa wrote: Dear Sai brothers and Sisters, Sairam. Nice to read varied responses to the issue of accpeting Karmic consequences. True, as some of your have said, it is quite easy to advise others, but when it comes to experiencing the reality by ourselves, we often stumble and need support. Tomorrow when I have to face a difficulty personally, all the explanations given by me will not support me, rather, I might require some else to pacify me and convince me with all the explanations once again. But rising to higher consciousness is all about making ourselves stronger and stronger day by day to accpet the reality of life as it comes. Even the great ones heralded by history and epics are no exception to confusion and questioning God in the initial stage or at the times of intense pain or atleast at the climax of their lives. They too wonder why God is allowing difficulties to rip their livess off. However as they move forward crossing the experience, they emerge out so pure and get totally convinced that God's ways are always unquestionable and we need to appreciate and understand it rather than questioning. Ultimately, the soothing and comforting hands of the Lord comes to their rescue and heals them of the wounds they had, finally teaching them that life is all about achieving perfect detachment and absolute faith in the Lord. We need to note from the epics that our difficulties are no smaller than the difficulties undergone by great men in epics. History and epics have repeated such instances hundreds and thousands of times only to teach us that we need to accpet the reality of life and accept the will of God as it comes. Let me quote one or two highlights here. The pangs of suffering were mounting up in the lives of Pandavas during their exile. Finally the war arrived. On the fourteenth day of the battle, Abhimanyu, the son of Arjuna was killed cruelly. Towards the end of the battle, Aswattama wanted to avenge for the death of Kauravas. One night, He mistook Upapandavas ( the five sons of Pandavas) as Pandavas themselves and killed all of them while they were at sleep. The nest morning saw all the five children killed and words cannot explain how the five would have felt witnessing the cruel and horrible end of their children all at once. In fact, with the death of abhimanyu and their five children, the entire Pandava clan appeared to have come to an end. Krishna was all the while staying with them comforting and consoling. They blamed Krishna, pooled up their charges on Him for not saving their children, but had to accpt His divine play. Fine, this is not the end. After the war, Abhimanyu's wife who was pregnant was supposed to give birth to a baby. All hopes were on her as the protector of their clan. But because of the cruel plot of Aswattama once again, the child was rendered lifeless at birth due to an astra used by him earlier to kill the foetus. Just imagine looking at the lifeless baby how all of them would have felt. in fact Arjuna went to the extent of charging krishna that he was the destroyer of his clan. Krishna just accepted his blames as he would accept praise. Finally, the touch of Krishna could restore life into the baby. They came to know only later that Krishna had entered the womb earlier in the form of blue light to safeguard the foetus from the astra used by Aswattama. Jubilant celebrations were all around. When we undergo difficulties, the ways of God will certainly appear cruel. During difficulties, the clouds of misery and confusion blind us and we do not seem to understand the reality of life. However, once the veils of clouds clear and we look back the journey we took, there is no more remorse or grief. we really do feel that life has shaped us into a better human eing in the process of chiseling us with difficulties. Though difficulties of the present are a horror, as we look back, they were in fact a blessing to refine and reform us. Imagine we are taking an adventurous trip on the road of horror. We scream, we wail, we cry and repent for having resorted to this road, finally, once we complete the journey, we relax and say, Yes, I have done it. Now, only a sense of great achievement remains in us. Life is all about that. The only difference is adventure is what we accept ourselves, but the difficulties of life are what are given by life for us to take up as challenges and work out our way. In the life of every devotee, God has invariably placed a cruel test in the life of every devotee to see whether he sticks on to absolute faith. Is that not our experience and understanding too? Provided God is omnipotent, provided he is the most merciful one, provided his love is that of thousand mothers, can He not prevent a suffering or calamity in the life of His beloved child before it comes. He can easily do that. But why He allows it to happen is the reason only known to Him and we need to accept it as His divine Prasad. Perhaps he wants to check the extent of surrender, total faith and detachment in us. Loving Sairams and may Sai bless all of us with the wisdom to understand His ways, Dr. A. Sathya Narayanan Ramaprasad Uma <umaramaprasad > wrote: Dear Sai Brothers and Sisters,,Aum Sri Sai RamKoti Koti Pranams to Our Bhagwan,This msg is in reply to Dr.Satyanarayanan's reply regarding the recent incident.I am a Sai devotee since childhood and i always pray to swami very sincerely.How much i stand in His ( SWAMI'S) rating - I do not know, but I am always making an earnest attempt to be a good Human being.Even though Dr.Satyanarayana's reply is wonderful, I have some clarifications to seek from Dr.Satyanarayana:Sir, You will agree that we Sai devotees always give all praise to Swami - for even the smallest of good things to the biggest good things that happens to us in our day to day lives - eg:- By swami's grace i could catch the bus , to By swami's grace i escaped a major accident and saved my life.We all admit the great miraculous powers of our beloved Swami - and we all know that NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR LORD.We also know that our Swami is "Abath Banthava" and has a "heart of a thousand Mothers".There have been several messages in this very site, thanking our beloved Bhagawan for miraculous escapes/ healings in life etc etc.,Whenever god does not interfere in the bad happenings in our life - we attribute it to KarmaWhenever even the smallest good happpens, we willingly attribute it to His Grace.I am confused about where the actual line of god's grace stops- for karma to take over- because I believe gods grace has no rest and should be ever available especially for earnest believers.My special request to our Group kindly not to edit this message and publish this with Dr.Satyanarayana's reply - as this is one of the common questions CONFRONTED SILENTLY in several Sai devotees minds.If there is any "Aparatha" in asking a question like this I pray to Swami earnestly - to forgive me and bless meSAIRAM TO ALL,FROM A LONG TIME SWAMI DEVOTEE Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Regards, Yours Sincerely, Dr. A. Sathya Narayanan, M.A., PGDICP, M.S., M.Phil., M.Ed., Ph.D. Serve for Universal Peace through Human Excellence Mobile: 9941209407 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Dear Sai brothers and sisters, AUM SRI SAI RAM Koti koti pranams to our Bhagwan Indeed,very grateful to Dr.Satyanarayanan for his detailed clarification. As i understood, his reply: 1) Have absolute faith in God 2) God's ways are unquestionable and we have to accept and surrender to His will. I pray God to shower us constantly with the WISDOM - to follow the above. Sairam to all, Sathya Narayanan Anantharaman <saikrupaaa wrote: Dear Sai brothers and Sisters, Sairam. Nice to read varied responses to the issue of accpeting Karmic consequences. True, as some of your have said, it is quite easy to advise others, but when it comes to experiencing the reality by ourselves, we often stumble and need support. Tomorrow when I have to face a difficulty personally, all the explanations given by me will not support me, rather, I might require some else to pacify me and convince me with all the explanations once again. But rising to higher consciousness is all about making ourselves stronger and stronger day by day to accpet the reality of life as it comes. Even the great ones heralded by history and epics are no exception to confusion and questioning God in the initial stage or at the times of intense pain or atleast at the climax of their lives. They too wonder why God is allowing difficulties to rip their livess off. However as they move forward crossing the experience, they emerge out so pure and get totally convinced that God's ways are always unquestionable and we need to appreciate and understand it rather than questioning. Ultimately, the soothing and comforting hands of the Lord comes to their rescue and heals them of the wounds they had, finally teaching them that life is all about achieving perfect detachment and absolute faith in the Lord. We need to note from the epics that our difficulties are no smaller than the difficulties undergone by great men in epics. History and epics have repeated such instances hundreds and thousands of times only to teach us that we need to accpet the reality of life and accept the will of God as it comes. Let me quote one or two highlights here. The pangs of suffering were mounting up in the lives of Pandavas during their exile. Finally the war arrived. On the fourteenth day of the battle, Abhimanyu, the son of Arjuna was killed cruelly. Towards the end of the battle, Aswattama wanted to avenge for the death of Kauravas. One night, He mistook Upapandavas ( the five sons of Pandavas) as Pandavas themselves and killed all of them while they were at sleep. The nest morning saw all the five children killed and words cannot explain how the five would have felt witnessing the cruel and horrible end of their children all at once. In fact, with the death of abhimanyu and their five children, the entire Pandava clan appeared to have come to an end. Krishna was all the while staying with them comforting and consoling. They blamed Krishna, pooled up their charges on Him for not saving their children, but had to accpt His divine play. Fine, this is not the end. After the war, Abhimanyu's wife who was pregnant was supposed to give birth to a baby. All hopes were on her as the protector of their clan. But because of the cruel plot of Aswattama once again, the child was rendered lifeless at birth due to an astra used by him earlier to kill the foetus. Just imagine looking at the lifeless baby how all of them would have felt. in fact Arjuna went to the extent of charging krishna that he was the destroyer of his clan. Krishna just accepted his blames as he would accept praise. Finally, the touch of Krishna could restore life into the baby. They came to know only later that Krishna had entered the womb earlier in the form of blue light to safeguard the foetus from the astra used by Aswattama. Jubilant celebrations were all around. When we undergo difficulties, the ways of God will certainly appear cruel. During difficulties, the clouds of misery and confusion blind us and we do not seem to understand the reality of life. However, once the veils of clouds clear and we look back the journey we took, there is no more remorse or grief. we really do feel that life has shaped us into a better human eing in the process of chiseling us with difficulties. Though difficulties of the present are a horror, as we look back, they were in fact a blessing to refine and reform us. Imagine we are taking an adventurous trip on the road of horror. We scream, we wail, we cry and repent for having resorted to this road, finally, once we complete the journey, we relax and say, Yes, I have done it. Now, only a sense of great achievement remains in us. Life is all about that. The only difference is adventure is what we accept ourselves, but the difficulties of life are what are given by life for us to take up as challenges and work out our way. In the life of every devotee, God has invariably placed a cruel test in the life of every devotee to see whether he sticks on to absolute faith. Is that not our experience and understanding too? Provided God is omnipotent, provided he is the most merciful one, provided his love is that of thousand mothers, can He not prevent a suffering or calamity in the life of His beloved child before it comes. He can easily do that. But why He allows it to happen is the reason only known to Him and we need to accept it as His divine Prasad. Perhaps he wants to check the extent of surrender, total faith and detachment in us. Loving Sairams and may Sai bless all of us with the wisdom to understand His ways, Dr. A. Sathya Narayanan Ramaprasad Uma <umaramaprasad > wrote: Dear Sai Brothers and Sisters,,Aum Sri Sai RamKoti Koti Pranams to Our Bhagwan,This msg is in reply to Dr.Satyanarayanan's reply regarding the recent incident.I am a Sai devotee since childhood and i always pray to swami very sincerely.How much i stand in His ( SWAMI'S) rating - I do not know, but I am always making an earnest attempt to be a good Human being.Even though Dr.Satyanarayana's reply is wonderful, I have some clarifications to seek from Dr.Satyanarayana:Sir, You will agree that we Sai devotees always give all praise to Swami - for even the smallest of good things to the biggest good things that happens to us in our day to day lives - eg:- By swami's grace i could catch the bus , to By swami's grace i escaped a major accident and saved my life.We all admit the great miraculous powers of our beloved Swami - and we all know that NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR OUR LORD.We also know that our Swami is "Abath Banthava" and has a "heart of a thousand Mothers".There have been several messages in this very site, thanking our beloved Bhagawan for miraculous escapes/ healings in life etc etc.,Whenever god does not interfere in the bad happenings in our life - we attribute it to KarmaWhenever even the smallest good happpens, we willingly attribute it to His Grace.I am confused about where the actual line of god's grace stops- for karma to take over- because I believe gods grace has no rest and should be ever available especially for earnest believers.My special request to our Group kindly not to edit this message and publish this with Dr.Satyanarayana's reply - as this is one of the common questions CONFRONTED SILENTLY in several Sai devotees minds.If there is any "Aparatha" in asking a question like this I pray to Swami earnestly - to forgive me and bless meSAIRAM TO ALL,FROM A LONG TIME SWAMI DEVOTEE Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Regards, Yours Sincerely, Dr. A. Sathya Narayanan, M.A., PGDICP, M.S., M.Phil., M.Ed., Ph.D. Serve for Universal Peace through Human Excellence Mobile: 9941209407 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Sairam my dear fellow passengers Dont give too much attention to the minds play. What SWAMY can do what HE does and what HE does not do and why HE did not do what HE is suppose to do etc. Spirituality is contradiction as it is a possibility. A sub atomic particle can be a particle or wave is a possibility according to Quantum physics. Karma and its theory ( i repeat it is a theory & can be debated endlessly for lives to come) Understand that you are part of the Universal consciousness ( you call it by whatever name) Life on earth is a journey from being in LOVE to becoming LOVE. Every time you take a life on earth you decide (at soul level) to have certain experience which will help you to evolve further and in spirituality you take it from the level where you left in your last level. Spirituality is different from your financial status and your so called sensual pleasures. ( there are people living in a small hut not sure of next meal but they are peaceful and happy and there are some who are millioners but not peaceful & happy). Happiness is not external but internal. One does not become happy by getting something but inherantly we are happy. At one level of spirituality SWAMY behaves to us as if we are small child ,doing things for us ( he interferes in your life) and at another level HE is only a sakhi bootham ( a sheer witness ). So it is contradictory. It depends on which level you think you are and which level you actually are ( which only HE knows). Hence dont waste your time debating on this what is HIS line of grace. Understand that NOTHING moves without HIS WILL and GRACE. Good / Bad/ Joy / Sorrow / Rich / Poor everything is within the frame work of duality and is only a illusion at one level. Within this level one is trying to analyse various things. This is one level Another level everything is one without a second. Containers are different but content is one. Forms are many but Being is one. So it is SWAMY in one form experiencing all the difficulties ( so called) and SWAMY rescuing SWAMY from danger casused by SWAMY........ With LOVE In the service of Light n Love Easwar -- Easwar.s.s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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