Guest guest Posted April 3, 2007 Report Share Posted April 3, 2007 " How did Hemadpant receive answer to his debate he had with Balasaheb Bhate? " The debate between Balasaheb Bhate and Hemadpant was about the necessity of Guru. Balasaheb Bhate was of the opinion that a spiritual aspirant must brush aside cleverness; pride or egoism and surrender to Guru. Hemadpant contended, " Why should we lose our freedom and submit to others? When we have to do our duty, why a Guru is necessary? One must try his best and save himself. What can the Guru do to a man who does nothing but sleeps indolently? " Thus I pleaded freewill, while Mr. Bhate took up the other side. Next day Hemadpant got answer from Baba in the following incident Kakasaheb went to Baba and asked whether he should leave Shirdi. Baba Said, " Yes " . Then someone asked - " Baba, where to go? " Baba said, " High up. " Then the man said, " How is the way? " Baba said, " There are many ways leading there; there is one way also from here (Shirdi). The way is difficult. There are tigers and wolves in the jungles on the way. " I (Kakasaheb) asked - " But Baba, what if we take a guide with us? " Baba answered, - " Then there is no difficulty. The guide will take you straight to your destination, avoiding wolves, tigers and ditches etc. on the way. If there be no guide, there is the danger of your being lost in the jungles or falling into ditches. " Mr. Dabholkar was present on this occasion and he thought that this was the answer Baba gave to the question whether Guru was a necessity; and he thereupon took the hint that no discussion of the problem, whether man is free or bound, is of any use in spiritual matters, but that on the contrary real Paramartha is possible only as the result of the teachings of the Guru, even great Avatars like Rama and Krishna, who had to submit themselves to their Gurus, Vasishtha and Sandipani respectively, for getting self- realization and that the only virtues necessary for such progress are faith and patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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