Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 It is an interesting thing, people assume that because they follow the spiritual path, they have license to put away rationality, because they were told that God is inscrutible by the rational mind. They forget that it is also said that: " krOdhAt bhavati sam-mOhah sam-mOhat smriti vibramah smriti brimshAt buddhi nAshah buddhi nAshAt praNashayti " translated... “Delusion arises from anger. The mind is bewildered by delusion. Reasoning is destroyed when the mind is bewildered. One falls down when reasoning is destroyed. " Clearly, Krishna places much emphasis on reason. This should indicate to you that reason is held in fairly high esteem by even Lord Krishna, the master of Yogis. They key is to know when to apply reason, and what its limitations are. It is true that Science cannot touch Spirituality. Indeed, it is a fact that it cannot, as the spirit is a subjectively experienced reality, while science focuses on the objective world of the senses (external facing) assuming them to be real and constant. So those who focus on trying to " prove " spirituality or " God " by scientific means, are wasting their time, and their reasoning is backwards. However, this does not imply that reasoning itself is to be thrown out the window. The most important criteria in the path of Jnana marga (knowledge) is to use 'approved' logic or reason that is confirmed by the statements in the scriptures. Despite being extremely drenched in bhakthi (devotion), most well-known bhakthas were also keen observers and very intelligent people (e.g., Hanuman - please refer to the lecture of Swami Manasa datta in the presence of Sri Swamiji on Hanuman, Trindad 2008). They applied themselves intelligently, asked intelligent questions, and approached spirituality in a serious manner. They did not do it for " someone else " . Bhakthi does not make you less discriminating, it intensifies and focuses your discrimination to a sharp point. By doing so, it automatically engages your discriminative faculties in the " right direction " . Without bhakthi, your discriminative faculties will be sharpening the " wrong end of the pencil " so to speak. So, jnanam and bhakthi go hand in hand, and this cannot be otherwise. Hinduism rejects all form of superstitious beliefs at the very outset. Don't forget, when Hanuman was given a pearl necklace by Sita devi, he threw most of it away, saying that he could not find Rama in any of the pearls. Superstition and ettiquette would have said to preserve the pearl necklace without destroying it. Hanuman being a " simple " devotee had a supremely discriminating intellect - to Him nothing but Rama matters, come what may. That kind of discrimination is real. Most hindus today worship superstition more than their own intellect. Why do we worship idols? Most people can come up with some philosophical sounding arguments for it, when pressed; but when they actually worship the idol in the temple - suddenly they put away their philosophical perspective - and think that the idol itself is the lord and forget the true Lord. They forget the true reason for worshiping the idol. This is a big mistake. One should consciously worship the Lord. The idol situated in the temple represents the Lord situated within the temple of one's hridaya (heart-center). This is why you do Atma pradakshina (you circumambulate yourself) to remind yourself that you are the living temple of the living God. Swamiji has himself said " I am living in your hearts - keep them clean. Don't keep garbage in your hearts. " Think deeply about that statement for a moment - in fact, think of that statement all the time - that itself is devotion. You need to keep in mind you are not doing these spiritual practices for someone else, so your exhibition of bhakthi and temple going, will do you absolutely no good. The urge to go to the temple will happen if real bhakthi is flowering within you. The fact that you are the real temple, does not mean stop going to temples. Rather, the point is that people are forgetting that the intellect is second only to the Atman itself. What is going on? You can choose to worship fear, or you can choose to worship God. You must choose: Each and every moment of your life, you must make that choice. The one only exists in the absence of the other, by definition. Look within, and see what drives you to do what you do at all times. It is not for fun and giggles that Lord Krishna, in the middle of a raging battle, says " the man of wisdom is endowed with the light of discrimination " and that " by means of discrimination one can master the senses and the Self. " Krishna himself has said that he is there to protect dharma. What is dharma? It is a fundamental law. It is the way that things behave. It is the fundamental order. It isn't some pseudo-construct that society has come up with - anything that the human mind comes up with is inherently limited and will decay with time - but this dharma is said to be sanatana (eternal) so what is it? That is the question. Think about this for yourselves. Anything that requires you to sacrifice your discrimination, cannot be construed as acceptable by Hindu philosophy. That which is real, is always real, and that which is unreal, is never real. This is a fundamental tenet of Sri Krishna's philosophy. This is something that must be understood very clearly. Real discrimination is that which is able to discern the real from the unreal, like the mythical Swan (Hamsa) that separates the milk from the waters of the causal ocean. It is for this that Yogi's undergo so many hardships and practices, so that their sense of discrimination is well developed, to the point of being able to discern the real from the unreal. Meditation is not meant to dull your intellect - it should sharpen it. You should think and observe more keenly. Such intensity in the form of experiences, hardships, and/or devotion, focuses the mind and develops vairagya within your nature, which is a necessary pre-condition for real discrimination. Without vairagya, the intellect very cleverly lies to itself, from moment to moment. It lies in such a subtle way, that you will not be able to detect your own lies. It is vairagya, or dispassion, that leads one to scripturally acceptable reasoning. Anyway, these are some things to think about in your daily spiritual life. May Swamiji guide us all to such discrimination, which leads to the practice of true dharma, and the realization of the ultimate Truth. If you read Sri Swamiji's biography, there is a story of a wailing (noise-making) demon/rakshasa that haunts a tree on a hill near a village, that exemplifies this point. If you're interested, go read it. Maybe you'll see Sri Swamiji's subtle hint this time. Jaya Guru Datta! --- Gurorangripadme ManaScenna Lagnam tata: kim! tata: kim! tata: kim! tata: kim!? Sarva Kartha, Sarva Dhartha, Sarva Hartha, Mangalam! Satchidananda, Satchidananda, Satchidananda Mangalam! Tasmai Sri Guru-murthaye Nama Idam Sri Dakshinamurtaye! Ata Nityo Narayanaha, Brahma Narayanaha, Sivascha Narayanaha, Kalascha Narayanaha. Disascha Narayanaha, Vidisascha Narayanaha, Urdwamscha Narayanaha, Adhascha Narayanaha, Antar-bahischa-Narayana.Narayana Eh Vedam Sarvam, Yat BhootamYacchha Bhavyam.Nish-kalango Niranjano Nirvikalpo Nirakyadhas,suddhho Deva Eko Narayanaha, Na dwiteeyosthi kaschit,ya evam Vedas Vishnu reva Bhavati, Sa Vishnureva Bhavathi, Etat yajur veda sirodeeyathe. 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