Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 To avoid confusion: The term " westerners " (as in the previous email) refers to those who to the idea of " instant moksha " by means of some intellectual understanding, and does not refer to people of a specific ethnicity or origin. I used the term " westerners " to denote anyone (including indians) who dismiss the rigour of the classical eastern approach to spiritual practice, involving the many baby-steps of sadhana: faith, rituals, mantras, etc. There is a sub-culture of " modern " or " new-age " vedantins that suggest that moksha is something intellectual (e.g., Deepak Chopra, Osho, etc. - i.e., " westerners " or those of the " western mindset " ) to be had without " paying one's dues " so to speak - such modern vedanta is devoid of substance and serves only as theoretical conjecture. In the use of the term " westerner " it is to this " Chopra mentality " that I refer, and not to americans/europeans, or whatever. This 'modern vedanta' arose as a result of the post-Vivekananda fall-out whereby many advanced ideas were exported from the " east " to the " west " but the basis for those concepts, i.e., a solid foundation embedded in rituals, faith, and so on, were over-looked and avoided. The danger in such " modern " vedanta is the tendency to intellectualize and over-simplify what is inherently not something to be 'understood' intellectually, but to be 'experienced' as the reality. I contrast this " westerner " view of vedanta to the " eastern " mindset in which moksham is never something to be strived for " in this lifetime " so its not worth bothering about. Typically my emails focus on the latter view that " this is too complex for me " or " i'll never understand this " sort of fatalistic helpless mentality that often possesses people. In contrast, the post-Vivekananda Deepak Chopra types who think that moksha is an intellectual thing to be understood or that it is just a hop, skip, and a thought away (as if its an " Aha! " moment that the mind has...). Both are imbalanced and can lead one to a state of delusion. That said, I apologize if the term " westerner " is confusing or misleading as used previously. Again, it does not refer to ethnicity or place of origin of a person, but to the perspective which one uses to understand/progress on 'the path'. That means, at times we are all prone to imbalances - leading us to be sometimes westerners (over-modern) and sometimes easterners (over-orthodoxy). The best is a middling path consisting of a balanced outlook in which one is pursuing both simultaneously, with one view supporting the other synergistically. --- Gurorangripadme ManaScenna Lagnam tata: kim! tata: kim! tata: kim! tata: kim!? Sarva Kartha, Sarva Dhartha, Sarva Hartha, Mangalam! Satchidananda, Satchidananda, Satchidananda Mangalam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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