Anil Kumar's Sunday Satsang at Prasanthi Nilayam-September 17, 2006

[Guest guest]

om sai ram

Divine messages:--

 

Free will is human choice; that which is

pre-determined is the will of God. Pre-determination,

or the will of God, may or may not be the same as

human will or effort.

 

Human will is based on choice, preference, effort,

likes, and dislikes.

 

God's will depends more on deserving than desiring.

 

Acceptance is surrender.

 

Life is a challenge with a Divine Master.

You are programmed; you are designed according to the

plan of the Divine Master in whose company you

yourself have chosen to live.

 

Spirituality is an endless path; it is a goal-less

path; it is an aimless path.

 

Spirituality is NOT becoming, whereas life's pattern

is a process of becoming.

The concept of becoming has NO relevance, has NO

application, and is most insignificant on the

spiritual path.

 

Becoming is worldly; being is spiritual.

 

Becoming is a drop; being is an ocean.

 

Becoming is worldly, while being is spiritual. This is

a spiritual centre, so being is important, not

becoming.

 

But in being, silence is enough. In being, meditation

is enough. In being, withdrawal of the mind is enough.

No effort, nothing; just, let me remain silent.

 

So not doing—meaning withdrawal of your thoughts,

withdrawal of your mind, absence of mind, the

thoughtless state—is liberation.

 

Being is immortality, being is permanent,

everlasting—your birthright.

 

It is our job to constantly contemplation on and

meditate on our being. All this is only possible when

we forget becoming.

 

Satisfaction is life; love is life. life means joy.

 

Life means bliss, life means smiles, life means music.

 

We have no beginning and no ending. It is a

beginning-less, endless, eternal, sweet, beautiful,

continuous journey.

sai ram

 

--- Sandeep Kumar <saisandeep123 wrote:

 

> Anil Kumar's Sunday Satsang at Prasanthi Nilayam

> September 17, 2006 The Sunday Talk Given by Anil

> Kumar

>

> " Becoming and Being "

>

> September 17th, 2006

>

> OM… OM… OM…

> Sai Ram

> With Pranams at the Lotus Feet of our most Beloved

> Bhagavan,

> Dear Brothers and Sisters, Somebody asked me

> while I was on my way to this place, " Why don't you

> put aside the prepared talk for a while so that we

> can ask some questions? " OK. So, if you have any

> questions, you are quite welcome to put them forth.

>

> (Someone from the crowd asks) " What is sadhana

> chathushtaya? "

> Yes. I will discuss sadhana chathushtaya in a

> lecture form. I'll make note of it and do it in one

> full hour talk. Astanga yoga, sadhana

> chathushtaya—they are very important topics which

> have to be dealt with at length, that deserve our

> attention, and prepare us to proceed along the

> spiritual path. I appreciate it. I'll make note of

> it and will definitely do it in one full hour talk.

>

> (To another inquirer) Yes, please.

> (Gentleman asks) " Define Baba in a few words,

> please. "

> In two words? (Laughter)

> (Gentleman clarifies) " In a few words. "

> Oh, you want me to tell about Baba in a few words?

> (Laughter)

> " Yeah. "

> I'll tell you in one word—LOVE. Why few words? One

> word is enough—Love. Love. That's all. " (Applause)

> One word. (Anil Kumar laughs.) Yes, sir.

> Any other, please? Okay. Yes?

> (A lady asks) " I am interested in your comment on

> the relationship between pre-determination and

> pre-destination, and that Swami knows all, and free

> will. Because so often they appear to be in

> conflict—you may have one but how can you have the

> other? "

> Yes. I think all of you could follow her question.

> I have answered this question many a time in the

> past, but since the question has been raised right

> now, I don't mind repeating it, making it as brief

> as possible to save time.

> Free will Has nothing to do with God's will

> What we call free will has nothing to do with that

> which is pre-determined. Free will is human choice;

> that which is pre-determined is the will of God.

> Pre-determination, or the will of God, may or may

> not be the same as human will or effort.

> For example, I want to be a doctor, but God's will

> may not be the same as my preference or choice. Free

> will is human choice. It is human preference and

> depends upon likes, dislikes, and the prevailing

> socio-economic conditions. But pre-determination,

> God's will, is quite independent. It does not

> necessarily coincide with my preferential will or

> desire.

> Human will is a desire, human will is a choice,

> human will is a preference, and human will is the

> determination with which you accomplish something.

> Human will has got ample scope for human effort, in

> order to accomplish that which one wants, and to

> realise that which one wishes. Am I clear on that

> part? Human will is based on choice, preference,

> effort, likes, and dislikes. I am clear.

> Pre-determination is God's will. A few points

> about pre-determination: 1) It is quite independent

> of our own will. It may coincide or it may not. 2)

> Whatever the pre-determination, God wills it for our

> own good. 3) The pre-determination of God's will is

> based on the merit or karma of the past lives. This

> means that God's will or the Divine will or

> pre-determination or karma depends on our deserving,

> more than our desiring. We may desire, but we may

> not deserve. So, God's will depends more on

> deserving than desiring.

> acceptance of the outcome is Surrender

> Now, how does one make both ends meet? Are they

> parallel? No. My friend, you and I have every choice

> to desire. You and I have every freedom to will, to

> desire, to hope, to plan, and to work. But total

> acceptance of what happens finally is called

> surrender—acceptance of what happens ultimately,

> what is kept in store for me in future, what will

> materialise at the end. If it is accepted totally

> and unconditionally, it is called surrender. So,

> acceptance is surrender; whereas rejection or denial

> is a psychological reaction to a situation that one

> has determined negative, which one has not accepted.

>

> So, spiritual sadhana (practice) requires one to

> put in more human effort while preparing to accept

> whatever happens at the end, with the spirit that

> everything happens for one's own good. That's how we

> have to link the two. Yes, any more questions,

> please? Any more questions? Is that okay? Thank you.

>

> To Live with God is a life in THE fire

> Now, I would like to share with you a few thoughts

> this morning. One thing is this: It is not so easy

> to live with God. It is not so simple to be in the

> company of a Divine Master. It is not simple. To

> live in the company of a Divine Master is a

> challenge. To live with God is a life in the fire.

> One has to live in fire without getting burnt; one

> has to walk on a razor's edge without being cut.

> Life is a challenge with God. Life is a challenge

> with a Divine Master.

> Sometimes in retrospection, one starts repenting,

> one starts regretting having been in the company of

> the Divine Master. Because living close to Him is a

> matter of choiceless awareness. You cannot choose

> anything, you cannot opt for anything, you cannot be

> on your own, and you are not independent. You are

> programmed; you are designed according to the plan

> of the Divine Master in whose company you yourself

> have chosen to live.

> If I tell Swami, " Oh, Bhagavan, life here is not

> interesting, " His immediate answer would be (as I

> can guess): " I have not invited you to be here. "

> (Laughter)

> If I tell Swami, " Swami, I think I'll be more

> comfortable outside, " I am sure He would say, " You

> are welcome to go. "

> And if I tell Him, " To live with You is a

> challenge which I cannot take anymore, " He would

> say, " You opted for it; I never asked you. "

> Therefore, my friends, living with the Divine

> Master is what we asked for, what we desired, and

> therefore we have to take it ungrudgingly,

> uncomplainingly. If not happily at the beginning, if

> not joyfully initially, later we get used to it (if

> not immune to it). (Laughter)

> But we should not be immune; we should not be

> indifferent. Indifference and immunity are negative

> tendencies. There are some people here who, if you

> ask, " Oh, you have been in Prashanti Nilayam; how

> are you here? " Their response will be, " It is

> alright, getting along. " (Laughter)

> It is just indifference. If you ask somebody, " You

> are with Swami, so how is life? " you may get the

> answer, " Oh, just like that. " (Laughter) It is

> simply immunity. If you ask someone, " How are you

> progressing, advancing spiritually? " he may

> helplessly say, " He only knows; Baba only knows. "

> (Laughter) It is confusion!

> We do not know what we really want

> If you just ask a fellow, " When are you likely to

> come back to your place? " and he says, " As Baba

> decides, " it only means he is of two minds. To be or

> not to be, that is the question.

> We are all in some stage or other. I am no

> exception. You may belong to one category on the

> list, and I may belong to every category I've been

> sharing with you thus far, because it is not so

> easy.

> Living in the Divine Company of a Divine Master,

> what happens initially? The beginning years of our

> stay may be one year or two years. (For some it may

> be even ten or twenty, depending upon the pace or

> the speed with which they proceed along the

> spiritual path.) For the first couple of years, what

> happens? We will be aware of all that we have lost.

> If you ask somebody, " How are you? "

> " Oh, I left my very big, palatial bungalow there. "

>

> " Oh, is that so. "

> If you ask somebody, " How are you here now? "

> " Oh, I was in a very good position, big position.

> But here a seva dal pushed me out. "

> Oh, I see. " Sir, how are you here? "

> " I am a highly influential man, but nobody greets

> me here. "

> Oh, I see. If you ask anybody, " How are you

> getting on here? "

> " I am just here with nobody, none from my

> workplace, none from our native place, none from my

> country, none to speak to me. "

> Oh, I see. " Why are you so serious, man, why are

> you so serious here? "

> " There is nothing to smile about, (Laughter)

> nothing to laugh about, so I am serious. "

> If we ask him, " Oh, you have been here quite a

> long time; what is it that you want from here? " he

> will say, " I am yet to know, I am yet to know. "

> " Well, what is it that you wanted? Did you get

> what you really wanted? "

> He will say, " It takes time. I am yet to know. "

> (Laughter)

> My friends, this is really interesting. Some of us

> are aimless here; some of us are here without any

> idea of what we're doing; some of us here do not

> know

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