Shraddha and Saburi

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…… " Shraddha or devotional faith is the most difficult state of

mind to achieve. If one has absolute faith in his Guru then sooner

or later he will even look like the Guru with all His attributes.

However, the seed of faith takes a lot of time to generate and to

grow. It may take years or even a few lives. Full faith in Baba does

not come, as quickly as one desires it to be like Shravan, Kirtan,

Poojan, Dhyana, etc. The Navadha Bhakti i.e. the multifold type of

bhakti is not bhakti per se. They are either methods of bhakti or

reflections of bhakti or both. Further, externality of devotion may

not necessarily indicate the internality of devotion.

 

Some people, at times say that only if Baba desires then bhakti will

grow in their hearts. By saying so they make Baba responsible for

generating bhakti in them. In the ultimate analysis it is true that

Baba generates bhakti in a devotee's heart. But, if the person so

desiring conducts himself in a manner that Baba desires, then the

type of bhakti he seeks will certainly be generated by Him. If one

starts praying to Baba for bhakti and yet continues to conduct

himself in an unethical manner forbidden by Baba, then how do we

expect Baba to generate bhakti in his mind? To this some people say

that even bad conduct is created by God and unless He desires this

can't be controlled. This time also the burden is squarely on Baba

or God and the devotee does not want to take any responsibility even

for his own conduct. Even under these circumstances Baba can control

his conduct and generate bhakti in him, provided he leaves all other

aspects of his life on Him and awaits patiently for Him to guide his

destiny. Faith or surrender means leaving everything on Baba – body,

mind and soul. But partial surrender will lead to partial bhakti,

and its partial results only. If one is sincere enough and fully

surrenders to Baba then He will control his desires and conduct.

Under these circumstances neither he should work nor seek anything

himself but leave everything to Baba in totality. Then, if he is

prepared to bear the consequence of this state of utter inaction

then Baba will certainly control his conduct and give him the type

of Shraddha he seeks. There are many examples of many devotees in

Shirdi, at the time of Baba, who had left everything on Sai

including all their material and spiritual needs, and Baba did

provide these to them. If one cannot come to this state of utter

inaction then, he should go by the normal path of Navadha Bhakti and

should be responsible for his own conduct to start with. God has

given enough intelligence to human beings in comparison to animals,

to discriminate between good and evil. Such practice will slowly but

definitely grow devotion in him imperceptibly.

 

However, this slow growth means waiting patiently under all

circumstances on the mercy of Baba, which is nothing but Saburi.

Saburi is, therefore, an essential factor for the generation,

sustenance and growth of devotion. Both faith and patience are

complementary to each other. Faith without patience will bring loss

of faith at frequent intervals of time and will not allow its

growth. Similarly, only patience, without actual faith, is an

exercise in futility. A balance in both will bring about even growth

of both in a person.

 

Faith again means trying to do what we have been asked to do by Baba

and resist from doing what has been forbidden by Him. Even if we

fail a number of times it does not matter, the main point is whether

we are using our God given faculties to their maximum limits. When

we want to use our faculties, time and energy for getting close to

Baba we have to cut down on many other activities. Therefore, the

person who wants closeness with Baba should always try to reduce the

non-productive, capricious and non-essential activities like late

night parties, addiction of any type, uncontrolled thought, speech

or action, etc. Such improvements will not only gradually control

the mind but will also save time and energy for more purposive and

creative activities, like study on Sri Sainath, meditation on Baba

and His worship in any form. The devotees should always try to

improve their inner qualities of patience, faith, tolerance,

egolessness, and gradually, closeness with Baba will increase. But,

the most important two qualities which are fundamental, as often

said by Baba, are " Shraddha and Saburi " . " …….

 

If Baba accepts a devotee, He follows him and stands by him, day and

night, at his home or abroad. Let the devotee go anywhere he likes,

Baba is there ahead of him in some form in an inconceivable manner " .-

Sri Sai Satcharita

 

Baba Said

 

" He who does anything (spiritual endeavor) will reap its fruit and

he who members these words of Mine, will get invaluable happiness "

 

Baba is every where just feel him and keep on saying `Om Sai Ram' to

whom so ever you meet.

 

OM SAI SRI SAI JAI JAI SAI!!! Let us pray at the lotus feet of

Bhagwan Baba who is the incarnation of all gods and protector of

all, to show mercy on us, and increase our devotion towards him

 

Jai Sai Ram

Swamy Mahadevan

Bow to Shri Sai-Peace be to all

Baba Bless you ever!!!

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Dear Sir,

Sai Ram. Very Wonderful Mesage to read and realise. Thank you so much for sharing with us.

It made me to feel so good after reading , and helps me to move forward towards my spiritual journey.

Sai Ram Bhavani

 

 

"Swamy Mahadevan" <mahadevanvnswamy To: Subject: [sBOI-post] "Shraddha and Saburi"Mon, 12 Mar 2007 22:02:32 -0000

 

 

 

……"Shraddha or devotional faith is the most difficult state of mind to achieve. If one has absolute faith in his Guru then sooner or later he will even look like the Guru with all His attributes. However, the seed of faith takes a lot of time to generate and to grow. It may take years or even a few lives. Full faith in Baba does not come, as quickly as one desires it to be like Shravan, Kirtan, Poojan, Dhyana, etc. The Navadha Bhakti i.e. the multifold type of bhakti is not bhakti per se. They are either methods of bhakti or reflections of bhakti or both. Further, externality of devotion may not necessarily indicate the internality of devotion.Some people, at times say that only if Baba desires then bhakti will grow in their hearts. By saying so they make Baba responsible for generating bhakti in them. In the ultimate analysis it is true that Baba generates bhakti in a devotee's heart. But, if the person so desiring conducts himself in a manner that Baba desires, then the type of bhakti he seeks will certainly be generated by Him. If one starts praying to Baba for bhakti and yet continues to conduct himself in an unethical manner forbidden by Baba, then how do we expect Baba to generate bhakti in his mind? To this some people say that even bad conduct is created by God and unless He desires this can't be controlled. This time also the burden is squarely on Baba or God and the devotee does not want to take any responsibility even for his own conduct. Even under these circumstances Baba can control his conduct and generate bhakti in him, provided he leaves all other aspects of his life on Him and awaits patiently for Him to guide his destiny. Faith or surrender means leaving everything on Baba – body, mind and soul. But partial surrender will lead to partial bhakti, and its partial results only. If one is sincere enough and fully surrenders to Baba then He will control his desires and conduct. Under these circumstances neither he should work nor seek anything himself but leave everything to Baba in totality. Then, if he is prepared to bear the consequence of this state of utter inaction then Baba will certainly control his conduct and give him the type of Shraddha he seeks. There are many examples of many devotees in Shirdi, at the time of Baba, who had left everything on Sai including all their material and spiritual needs, and Baba did provide these to them. If one cannot come to this state of utter inaction then, he should go by the normal path of Navadha Bhakti and should be responsible for his own conduct to start with. God has given enough intelligence to human beings in comparison to animals, to discriminate between good and evil. Such practice will slowly but definitely grow devotion in him imperceptibly.However, this slow growth means waiting patiently under all circumstances on the mercy of Baba, which is nothing but Saburi. Saburi is, therefore, an essential factor for the generation, sustenance and growth of devotion. Both faith and patience are complementary to each other. Faith without patience will bring loss of faith at frequent intervals of time and will not allow its growth. Similarly, only patience, without actual faith, is an exercise in futility. A balance in both will bring about even growth of both in a person.Faith again means trying to do what we have been asked to do by Baba and resist from doing what has been forbidden by Him. Even if we fail a number of times it does not matter, the main point is whether we are using our God given faculties to their maximum limits. When we want to use our faculties, time and energy for getting close to Baba we have to cut down on many other activities. Therefore, the person who wants closeness with Baba should always try to reduce the non-productive, capricious and non-essential activities like late night parties, addiction of any type, uncontrolled thought, speech or action, etc. Such improvements will not only gradually control the mind but will also save time and energy for more purposive and creative activities, like study on Sri Sainath, meditation on Baba and His worship in any form. The devotees should always try to improve their inner qualities of patience, faith, tolerance, egolessness, and gradually, closeness with Baba will increase. But, the most important two qualities which are fundamental, as often said by Baba, are "Shraddha and Saburi"."…….If Baba accepts a devotee, He follows him and stands by him, day and night, at his home or abroad. Let the devotee go anywhere he likes, Baba is there ahead of him in some form in an inconceivable manner".-Sri Sai SatcharitaBaba Said "He who does anything (spiritual endeavor) will reap its fruit and he who members these words of Mine, will get invaluable happiness"Baba is every where just feel him and keep on saying `Om Sai Ram' to whom so ever you meet.OM SAI SRI SAI JAI JAI SAI!!! Let us pray at the lotus feet of Bhagwan Baba who is the incarnation of all gods and protector of all, to show mercy on us, and increase our devotion towards him Jai Sai RamSwamy MahadevanBow to Shri Sai-Peace be to allBaba Bless you ever!!!

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om sai ram

--good topic- " faith and Patience "

'sai bless u'

sai ram

--- Swamy Mahadevan <mahadevanvnswamy

wrote:

 

> …… " Shraddha or devotional faith is the most

> difficult state of mind

> to achieve. If one has absolute faith in his Guru

> then sooner or

> later he will even look like the Guru with all His

> attributes.

> However, the seed of faith takes a lot of time to

> generate and to

> grow. It may take years or even a few lives. Full

> faith in Baba does

> not come, as quickly as one desires it to be like

> Shravan, Kirtan,

> Poojan, Dhyana, etc. The Navadha Bhakti i.e. the

> multifold type of

> bhakti is not bhakti per se. They are either methods

> of bhakti or

> reflections of bhakti or both. Further, externality

> of devotion may

> not necessarily indicate the internality of

> devotion.

>

> Some people, at times say that only if Baba desires

> then bhakti will

> grow in their hearts. By saying so they make Baba

> responsible for

> generating bhakti in them. In the ultimate analysis

> it is true that

> Baba generates bhakti in a devotee's heart. But, if

> the person so

> desiring conducts himself in a manner that Baba

> desires, then the

> type of bhakti he seeks will certainly be generated

> by Him. If one

> starts praying to Baba for bhakti and yet continues

> to conduct

> himself in an unethical manner forbidden by Baba,

> then how do we

> expect Baba to generate bhakti in his mind? To this

> some people say

> that even bad conduct is created by God and unless

> He desires this

> can't be controlled. This time also the burden is

> squarely on Baba or

> God and the devotee does not want to take any

> responsibility even for

> his own conduct. Even under these circumstances Baba

> can control his

> conduct and generate bhakti in him, provided he

> leaves all other

> aspects of his life on Him and awaits patiently for

> Him to guide his

> destiny. Faith or surrender means leaving everything

> on Baba – body,

> mind and soul. But partial surrender will lead to

> partial bhakti, and

> its partial results only. If one is sincere enough

> and fully

> surrenders to Baba then He will control his desires

> and conduct.

> Under these circumstances neither he should work nor

> seek anything

> himself but leave everything to Baba in totality.

> Then, if he is

> prepared to bear the consequence of this state of

> utter inaction then

> Baba will certainly control his conduct and give him

> the type of

> Shraddha he seeks. There are many examples of many

> devotees in

> Shirdi, at the time of Baba, who had left everything

> on Sai including

> all their material and spiritual needs, and Baba did

> provide these to

> them. If one cannot come to this state of utter

> inaction then, he

> should go by the normal path of Navadha Bhakti and

> should be

> responsible for his own conduct to start with. God

> has given enough

> intelligence to human beings in comparison to

> animals, to

> discriminate between good and evil. Such practice

> will slowly but

> definitely grow devotion in him imperceptibly.

>

> However, this slow growth means waiting patiently

> under all

> circumstances on the mercy of Baba, which is nothing

> but Saburi.

> Saburi is, therefore, an essential factor for the

> generation,

> sustenance and growth of devotion. Both faith and

> patience are

> complementary to each other. Faith without patience

> will bring loss

> of faith at frequent intervals of time and will not

> allow its growth.

> Similarly, only patience, without actual faith, is

> an exercise in

> futility. A balance in both will bring about even

> growth of both in a

> person.

>

> Faith again means trying to do what we have been

> asked to do by Baba

> and resist from doing what has been forbidden by

> Him. Even if we fail

> a number of times it does not matter, the main point

> is whether we

> are using our God given faculties to their maximum

> limits. When we

> want to use our faculties, time and energy for

> getting close to Baba

> we have to cut down on many other activities.

> Therefore, the person

> who wants closeness with Baba should always try to

> reduce the non-

> productive, capricious and non-essential activities

> like late night

> parties, addiction of any type, uncontrolled

> thought, speech or

> action, etc. Such improvements will not only

> gradually control the

> mind but will also save time and energy for more

> purposive and

> creative activities, like study on Sri Sainath,

> meditation on Baba

> and His worship in any form. The devotees should

> always try to

> improve their inner qualities of patience, faith,

> tolerance,

> egolessness, and gradually, closeness with Baba will

> increase. But,

> the most important two qualities which are

> fundamental, as often said

> by Baba, are " Shraddha and Saburi " . " …….

>

> If Baba accepts a devotee, He follows him and stands

> by him, day and

> night, at his home or abroad. Let the devotee go

> anywhere he likes,

> Baba is there ahead of him in some form in an

> inconceivable manner " .-

> Sri Sai Satcharita

>

> Baba Said

>

> " He who does anything (spiritual endeavor) will reap

> its fruit and he

> who members these words of Mine, will get invaluable

> happiness "

>

> Baba is every where just feel him and keep on saying

> `Om Sai Ram' to

> whom so ever you meet.

>

> OM SAI SRI SAI JAI JAI SAI!!! Let us pray at the

> lotus feet of

> Bhagwan Baba who is the incarnation of all gods and

> protector of all,

> to show mercy on us, and increase our devotion

> towards him

>

> Jai Sai Ram

> Swamy Mahadevan

> Bow to Shri Sai-Peace be to all

> Baba Bless you ever!!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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