Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Sai Ram,Can we assume that this article is authentic? That it has had Swami's blessing?Is it possible to acquire the full transcript of Tigrett's talk?Thank you for your excellent work in keeping us informed.P. Gallivan.On 3 Mar 2009, at 18:10, stone25zg wrote:Hello and Sai Ram,I`m following and reading your daily beautiful posts and enjoy in pearls of wisdom from our Beloved One. Thank you for your effort and all the joy you shower on me with your posts. And for the first time I would like to ask you for some info / help, if someone has any information about following;Some devotees from Croatia received some info that Isaac Tigrett recently held a speech in Dallas Center, where he supposedly, with Swami Blessings, told many surprising facts about future of humanity, as told to him by Swami. Here is part of that information's;"Swami told him to give a talk to the Dallas Sai Center and told him what to say - that soon there would be millions, possibly billions leaving our planet and that He would take care of His devotees. Swami wanted him to tell us that the most important thing we can do right now is to think positive thoughts." "I think what Isaac had said is that Swami would not interfere in the Nature's way. He was careful in not quoting Swami's forecasts but did indicate that the earth in general is going to go through tremendous turmoil, and things would get worse before the Golden Age arrives in about 24 to 25 years. Also, he appeared to say that Swami is withdrawing slowly from the masses, preparing the World for the next incarnation, Prema Sai. He talked a lot about working with the Western devotee (I forgot her name, sorry) (he must have meant Phyllis Krystal) who is Swami's ardent devotee, doing lot of meditations and cleansing of the environment in accordance with Swami's directions." "What I got from Tigrett's talk was that devotees should realize that we are God (not separate from God) and that all the frightening things that are going on in the world right now are just part of the changes that are necessary before we can enter the new age. He pointed out that we should be happy we are in human bodies right now so we can be part of the great events that are taking place. He further talked about how the negative things that seem to be going on in the world now are in reality just illusion, or maya,and we should be putting out positive thoughts and energy so we can help bring in the Golden Age that Swami has talked about."This info came from anonymous author, but it spread among devotees in Croatia like a virus. Many of the old aged devotees that I know and care about, are confused should they believe or not to that information they received, especially as there is no official records to be found about such event. (In my job I'm using internet very often, but I couldn`t found any info too).So, what I would kindly like to ask is, can anybody confirm that information? As I follow posts in this group I know that you all are very careful in type of information you provide, and that is why I decided to ask you for the information.Supposedly, there is also a DVD in preparation, with Isaac speech.If anybody has any information or material, that is reliable, can you send me this material? I would very much like to calm spirits raised among devotees around me. You know how people are eager for the information's, especially when they get some small part, and they can not reach for more.And, always, the greatest gift for my heart is to see the tears of happiness in their eyes when I`m able to help them or give them a present from our Beloved One.Thank you for your help, in advance,Best regards,Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 OM NAMAH SHIVAYA While it is true that Mother Earth is going through huge changes, thanks to Global Warming and other man-made issues and while there have been several predictions about increased natural disasters such as earthquakes, Tsunamis, etc., we cannot get agitated by all these news and just surrender to fate. Mankind has accumulated lots of negative Karma by all the past actions, but suffering is optional. We have the 'Power of Prayer' and 'Prayer changes things'. Above all, our Merciful Lord Shiva has come to this world as Shirdi Sai Baba, currently as Sathya Sai Baba and in future will take the Avatar as Bhagawan Sri Prema Sai Baba to fulfil His Promise to Sage Bharadwaja Rishi in the Thretha Yuga. We are so fortunate to be in this world during the Golden Age when the Lord of the Universe has incarnated in Human form. So, rather than getting worried, confused and agitated, let's use every moment of this life in Prayers to our Lord Sai Shiva to Bless us with Liberation and Save the world. Please note that Swami has promised to save 'His Devotees'. We must all think whether we qualify in that category of 'Devotees' or not. Let's ask the following questions to ourselves to find out if we are devotees of Sai: 1) Do we follow Swami's Guidelines on the 9-point Devotion to be followed by Devotees? 2) At the very least, do we follow the first Guideline of Daily Prayers & Meditation? 3) In the recent past, Swami has emphasized so much on Namasmarana (Repeating the Name of God) and very specifically emphasized us to chant the Gayatri Mantra. Are we following that? 4) Swami has also instructed all His Students to learn and chant Rudram. (When He says students, He doesn't restrict the instructions to people studying in the Sathya Sai University & Institutions, but the entire Universe is His University; We are all His Students, seeking Spiritual Knowledge and Swami is our Guru and God). If we believe that He is our JagathGuru, SathGuru and God, we must blindly follow His Teachings and learn & chant Rudram that will help removing negativity in this world and create positivity. 5) Above all, Swami wants us to spread Love and Light. He wants us to destroy our EGOs and be hollow instruments to serve Him. Just think, how many times we get angry, agitated, frustrated with our fellow brothers and sisters? How many times, because of our EGOs, we hurt others? How many times, even within Sai Centers and other entities, we have conflicts and disagreements? Just by merely going to Temples, Sai Centers and attending bhajans, if we think that we are devotees of Sai Baba, then we are wasting this Divine Opportunity when the Lord Himself has come to this Earth to save us and the world. Let's not dream about the Golden Age to come only after Prema Sai Baba's birth in this world. Every one of us can experience the Golden Age right now in our lives, if we make full use of this Golden Opportunity to follow Swami's Teachings and spread Positive vibrations in the world. It is so important to create positive vibrations through our prayers regardless of our caste, color or creed and whether we are a Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Jain, Sikh...the path preached by various religious doctrines could be different, but the destination is the same, and that is to reach GOD. So let's forget all differences and duality, and start believing in Unity and Brotherhood of mankind, our divine duty being to spread love and positivity. Samastha Lokah Sukhino Bhavanthu OM NAMAH SHIVAYA Patrick Gallivan <gallivan Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:38:10 AM Re: Isaac Tigrett's Talk in Dallas Sai Ram, Can we assume that this article is authentic? That it has had Swami's blessing? Is it possible to acquire the full transcript of Tigrett's talk? Thank you for your excellent work in keeping us informed. P. Gallivan. On 3 Mar 2009, at 18:10, stone25zg wrote: Hello and Sai Ram, I`m following and reading your daily beautiful posts and enjoy in pearls of wisdom from our Beloved One. Thank you for your effort and all the joy you shower on me with your posts. And for the first time I would like to ask you for some info / help, if someone has any information about following; Some devotees from Croatia received some info that Isaac Tigrett recently held a speech in Dallas Center, where he supposedly, with Swami Blessings, told many surprising facts about future of humanity, as told to him by Swami. Here is part of that information' s; "Swami told him to give a talk to the Dallas Sai Center and told him what to say - that soon there would be millions, possibly billions leaving our planet and that He would take care of His devotees. Swami wanted him to tell us that the most important thing we can do right now is to think positive thoughts.I think what Isaac had said is that Swami would not interfere in the Nature's way. He was careful in not quoting Swami's forecasts but did indicate that the earth in general is going to go through tremendous turmoil, and things would get worse before the Golden Age arrives in about 24 to 25 years. Also, he appeared to say that Swami is withdrawing slowly from the masses, preparing the World for the next incarnation, Prema Sai. He talked a lot about working with the Western devotee (I forgot her name, sorry) (he must have meant Phyllis Krystal) who is Swami's ardent devotee, doing lot of meditations and cleansing of the environment in accordance with Swami's directions. What I got from Tigrett's talk was that devotees should realize that we are God (not separate from God) and that all the frightening things that are going on in the world right now are just part of the changes that are necessary before we can enter the new age. He pointed out that we should be happy we are in human bodies right now so we can be part of the great events that are taking place. He further talked about how the negative things that seem to be going on in the world now are in reality just illusion, or maya,and we should be putting out positive thoughts and energy so we can help bring in the Golden Age that Swami has talked about." This info came from anonymous author, but it spread among devotees in Croatia like a virus. Many of the old aged devotees that I know and care about, are confused should they believe or not to that information they received, especially as there is no official records to be found about such event. (In my job I'm using internet very often, but I couldn`t found any info too). So, what I would kindly like to ask is, can anybody confirm that information? As I follow posts in this group I know that you all are very careful in type of information you provide, and that is why I decided to ask you for the information. Supposedly, there is also a DVD in preparation, with Isaac speech. If anybody has any information or material, that is reliable, can you send me this material? I would very much like to calm spirits raised among devotees around me. You know how people are eager for the information' s, especially when they get some small part, and they can not reach for more. And, always, the greatest gift for my heart is to see the tears of happiness in their eyes when I`m able to help them or give them a present from our Beloved One. Thank you for your help, in advance, Best regards, Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Sai Ram Igor Well this is just an ordinary person's thoughts; Swami has repeatedly said, He never Ever Talks,heals, or gives out his trinkets through any body else. Many charlatans declare Swami speaks thru them, or has materialised objects to be given out by them, (usually for a high price!) or Heals thru them. Both Swami and the Sai Org at Puttaparti declare anyone who makes these claims is a fraud Also,The stuff you've said this fellow is saying, is common knowledge..Global warming, our destroying of our planet's rain and other forests, our poisoning of our seas and rivers..All these things are murdring our planet and causing it to produce terrible natural disasters and extinction of thousands of species- and all this is going to escalate. I was amazed on my last visit to Puttaparthi 5 years ago, to see several young me strutting about declaring themselves to be Speaking, healing, guiding, by "Swami acting thru them "- and even more amazed to see crowds of apparently sane "devotees"paying them huge sums of money and believing them, with Swami Himself just nearby. Hope these facts have helped; any such queries should be addressed to the main Sai Baba site at Puttaparthi Thanks for bringing this to all our attention Anna Patrick Gallivan <gallivan Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 7:08:10 PM Re: Isaac Tigrett's Talk in Dallas Sai Ram, Can we assume that this article is authentic? That it has had Swami's blessing? Is it possible to acquire the full transcript of Tigrett's talk? Thank you for your excellent work in keeping us informed. P. Gallivan. On 3 Mar 2009, at 18:10, stone25zg wrote: Hello and Sai Ram, I`m following and reading your daily beautiful posts and enjoy in pearls of wisdom from our Beloved One. Thank you for your effort and all the joy you shower on me with your posts. And for the first time I would like to ask you for some info / help, if someone has any information about following; Some devotees from Croatia received some info that Isaac Tigrett recently held a speech in Dallas Center, where he supposedly, with Swami Blessings, told many surprising facts about future of humanity, as told to him by Swami. Here is part of that information' s; "Swami told him to give a talk to the Dallas Sai Center and told him what to say - that soon there would be millions, possibly billions leaving our planet and that He would take care of His devotees. Swami wanted him to tell us that the most important thing we can do right now is to think positive thoughts.I think what Isaac had said is that Swami would not interfere in the Nature's way. He was careful in not quoting Swami's forecasts but did indicate that the earth in general is going to go through tremendous turmoil, and things would get worse before the Golden Age arrives in about 24 to 25 years. Also, he appeared to say that Swami is withdrawing slowly from the masses, preparing the World for the next incarnation, Prema Sai. He talked a lot about working with the Western devotee (I forgot her name, sorry) (he must have meant Phyllis Krystal) who is Swami's ardent devotee, doing lot of meditations and cleansing of the environment in accordance with Swami's directions. What I got from Tigrett's talk was that devotees should realize that we are God (not separate from God) and that all the frightening things that are going on in the world right now are just part of the changes that are necessary before we can enter the new age. He pointed out that we should be happy we are in human bodies right now so we can be part of the great events that are taking place. He further talked about how the negative things that seem to be going on in the world now are in reality just illusion, or maya,and we should be putting out positive thoughts and energy so we can help bring in the Golden Age that Swami has talked about." This info came from anonymous author, but it spread among devotees in Croatia like a virus. Many of the old aged devotees that I know and care about, are confused should they believe or not to that information they received, especially as there is no official records to be found about such event. (In my job I'm using internet very often, but I couldn`t found any info too). So, what I would kindly like to ask is, can anybody confirm that information? As I follow posts in this group I know that you all are very careful in type of information you provide, and that is why I decided to ask you for the information. Supposedly, there is also a DVD in preparation, with Isaac speech. If anybody has any information or material, that is reliable, can you send me this material? I would very much like to calm spirits raised among devotees around me. You know how people are eager for the information' s, especially when they get some small part, and they can not reach for more. And, always, the greatest gift for my heart is to see the tears of happiness in their eyes when I`m able to help them or give them a present from our Beloved One. Thank you for your help, in advance, Best regards, Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Beautifully said brother Bharadwaja, You are right. But let us not forget that Hindu ways and spiritual practices are not only spiritual paths in humanity. There is a lot of different spiritual practices in other religions, many times mentioned by Swami, and they can even be recognized in Sarva Dharma symbol, symbol of our Beloved One. And they all lead toward our spiritual fulfillment and back to our Father. I think that our most important task is to be human. But to be human in the way our Father is teaching us, and repeating that lesson over and over, almost in every discourse. Let us remember what He told on last Christmas occasion, in His Divine discourse; "One has to develop such strong faith in Divinity. There are a number of terrorists operating in various parts of the world. But none of them can cause any damage to you if you develop faith and love in God. God is everywhere. You should repose firm faith in that omnipresent God. Any number of bombs cannot cause the least damage to your body. God is in you, with you, around you, above you, and below you. Unfortunately, people repose more confidence in temporary and palliative measures, which are like `peppermints', than developing firm faith in the omnipotent and omnipresent Divinity. Do not take Divinity lightly. Divinity is the only Chief for the entire universe. Develop faith in that Chief. Call Him by any name — Rama, Krishna, Jesus, or Allah; God is only one. Ekam sath viprah bahudha vadanti (truth is one, but the wise refer to it by various names). The so-called bombs and other powers cannot do any damage to you. The human power is not comparable to any other power. After all, who made the bomb? Only the human being. Then, who is great? Is it the one who made the bomb or the object itself? Undoubtedly, the human being is great. A human being should realise their innate strength and greatness. Vedanta (philosophy) exhorts the human being to realise their true nature by a process of enquiry into themself. If you enquire into yourself by putting the question, "Who am I?", back comes the reply, Aham Brahmasmi (I am Brahman). You have to constantly remind yourself, "I am not a human being, I am God verily." As far as the physical body is concerned, you are a human being. When God is with you, in you, around you, why should you have to fear man-made bombs? Develop self-confidence. Develop faith in the Atma Tathwa. The Self in you is the Supreme Self. When that Supreme Self is present in your body, why should you have to fear anyone? Even if the body becomes weak, the power of that Supreme Self drives you to march forward. It will help you." Well, what is there to feed a fear? Our Beloved One, also, in New Year Divine discourse said; "Dhyana (meditation), japa (constant repetition of God's name), or yoga are of no help in realizing the Atma Tathwa. Neither are the nine forms of devotion like sravanam (listening), kirtanam (singing), Vishnusmaranam (contemplating on Vishnu), Padasevanam (serving His Lotus Feet), vandanam (salutation), archanam (worship), dasyam (servitude), sneham (friendship), and Atmanivedanam (self-surrender) of any help. They are different forms of sadhana, which we ourselves have taken up. They are not God given. How many ascetics in this world do severe penance? How many people constantly do japa? Even when they are sleeping, the japamala rotates in their hand. Do all these spiritual exercises confer moksha (liberation) on oneself? Never! One has therefore to constantly contemplate on the Atma Tathwa. If someone asks who you are, you should be able to reply "I am God!" with all the faith and confidence at you command. The Atmaswarupa in all the human beings is one and the same. It is eternal and changeless." Swami is talking to many, but only our own hearts understand the true message of His words if they are washed with the water of devotion and love for the Divine. If we find Him in our hearts, we understand every message He has for us. Let us not discuss "qualification" which someone makes a devotee. Each human being on this planet is His child. Some of them are only babies; some of them are grown, or fully grown. Grown brothers and sisters should take care about the "small ones", show them the way using themselves as examples, and not by trying to find their faults. My point in posting original request, in this post, was not to spread panic. Many who knows Swami, also knows what Isaac represent in His presence. We all know that Isaac had numerous occasions to talk in person with Him. If Isaac told something to other people, I`m sure he did it only with Swami Blessings. That is only what I wanted to confirm. Some info was spread among devotees, with lots of missing information. Real transcript of his speech, confirmation of someone with reliable information's, or info about the recording of his speech could calm down peoples eagerness. In Sai Love, Igor , Rishi Bharadwaja <rishi.bharadwaja wrote:>> OM NAMAH SHIVAYA> > While it is true that Mother Earth is going through huge changes, thanks to Global Warming and other man-made issues and while there have been several predictions about increased natural disasters such as earthquakes, Tsunamis, etc., we cannot get agitated by all these news and just surrender to fate.> > Mankind has accumulated lots of negative Karma by all the past actions, but suffering is optional. We have the 'Power of Prayer' and 'Prayer changes things'. Above all, our Merciful Lord Shiva has come to this world as Shirdi Sai Baba, currently as Sathya Sai Baba and in future will take the Avatar as Bhagawan Sri Prema Sai Baba to fulfil His Promise to Sage Bharadwaja Rishi in the Thretha Yuga. We are so fortunate to be in this world during the Golden Age when the Lord of the Universe has incarnated in Human form. So, rather than getting worried, confused and agitated, let's use every moment of this life in Prayers to our Lord Sai Shiva to Bless us with Liberation and Save the world.> > Please note that Swami has promised to save 'His Devotees'. We must all think whether we qualify in that category of 'Devotees' or not. Let's ask the following questions to ourselves to find out if we are devotees of Sai:> > 1) Do we follow Swami's Guidelines on the 9-point Devotion to be followed by Devotees?> 2) At the very least, do we follow the first Guideline of Daily Prayers & Meditation?> 3) In the recent past, Swami has emphasized so much on Namasmarana (Repeating the Name of God) and very specifically emphasized us to chant the Gayatri Mantra. Are we following that?> 4) Swami has also instructed all His Students to learn and chant Rudram. (When He says students, He doesn't restrict the instructions to people studying in the Sathya Sai University & Institutions, but the entire Universe is His University; We are all His Students, seeking Spiritual Knowledge and Swami is our Guru and God). If we believe that He is our JagathGuru, SathGuru and God, we must blindly follow His Teachings and learn & chant Rudram that will help removing negativity in this world and create positivity.> 5) Above all, Swami wants us to spread Love and Light. He wants us to destroy our EGOs and be hollow instruments to serve Him. Just think, how many times we get angry, agitated, frustrated with our fellow brothers and sisters? How many times, because of our EGOs, we hurt others? How many times, even within Sai Centers and other entities, we have conflicts and disagreements?> > Just by merely going to Temples, Sai Centers and attending bhajans, if we think that we are devotees of Sai Baba, then we are wasting this Divine Opportunity when the Lord Himself has come to this Earth to save us and the world.> > Let's not dream about the Golden Age to come only after Prema Sai Baba's birth in this world. Every one of us can experience the Golden Age right now in our lives, if we make full use of this Golden Opportunity to follow Swami's Teachings and spread Positive vibrations in the world.> > It is so important to create positive vibrations through our prayers regardless of our caste, color or creed and whether we are a Hindu, Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Jain, Sikh...the path preached by various religious doctrines could be different, but the destination is the same, and that is to reach GOD. So let's forget all differences and duality, and start believing in Unity and Brotherhood of mankind, our divine duty being to spread love and positivity.> > Samastha Lokah Sukhino Bhavanthu> > OM NAMAH SHIVAYA> > > > > ________________________________> Patrick Gallivan gallivan > Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:38:10 AM> Re: Isaac Tigrett's Talk in Dallas> > > Sai Ram,> Can we assume that this article is authentic? That it has had Swami's blessing?> Is it possible to acquire the full transcript of Tigrett's talk?> Thank you for your excellent work in keeping us informed.> P. Gallivan.> > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 18:10, stone25zg wrote:> > > Hello and Sai Ram,> I`m following and reading your daily beautiful posts and enjoy in pearls of wisdom from our Beloved One. Thank you for your effort and all the joy you shower on me with your posts.> And for the first time I would like to ask you for some info / help, if someone has any information about following;> Some devotees from Croatia received some info that Isaac Tigrett recently held a speech in Dallas Center, where he supposedly, with Swami Blessings, told many surprising facts about future of humanity, as told to him by Swami. Here is part of that information' s;> "Swami told him to give a talk to the Dallas Sai Center and told him what to say - that soon there would be millions, possibly billions leaving our planet and that He would take care of His devotees. Swami wanted him to tell us that the most important thing we can do right now is to think positive thoughts."> > "I think what Isaac had said is that Swami would not interfere in the Nature's way. He was careful in not quoting Swami's forecasts but did indicate that the earth in general is going to go through tremendous turmoil, and things would get worse before the Golden Age arrives in about 24 to 25 years. Also, he appeared to say that Swami is withdrawing slowly from the masses, preparing the World for the next incarnation, Prema Sai. He talked a lot about working with the Western devotee (I forgot her name, sorry) (he must have meant Phyllis Krystal) who is Swami's ardent devotee, doing lot of meditations and cleansing of the environment in accordance with Swami's directions. "> > "What I got from Tigrett's talk was that devotees should realize that we are God (not separate from God) and that all the frightening things that are going on in the world right now are just part of the changes that are necessary before we can enter the new age. He pointed out that we should be happy we are in human bodies right now so we can be part of the great events that are taking place. He further talked about how the negative things that seem to be going on in the world now are in reality just illusion, or maya,and we should be putting out positive thoughts and energy so we can help bring in the Golden Age that Swami has talked about."> This info came from anonymous author, but it spread among devotees in Croatia like a virus. Many of the old aged devotees that I know and care about, are confused should they believe or not to that information they received, especially as there is no official records to be found about such event. (In my job I'm using internet very often, but I couldn`t found any info too).> So, what I would kindly like to ask is, can anybody confirm that information? As I follow posts in this group I know that you all are very careful in type of information you provide, and that is why I decided to ask you for the information.> Supposedly, there is also a DVD in preparation, with Isaac speech.> If anybody has any information or material, that is reliable, can you send me this material? I would very much like to calm spirits raised among devotees around me. You know how people are eager for the information' s, especially when they get some small part, and they can not reach for more.> And, always, the greatest gift for my heart is to see the tears of happiness in their eyes when I`m able to help them or give them a present from our Beloved One.> Thank you for your help, in advance,> Best regards,> Igor> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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