There was no body to know who I am until I created the earth.

June 3, 2007

Sugar can not taste itself. It can remain only as sugar. For tasting the sugar, a tongue of the taster is necessary. Unless it is tasted, what is the use of the sugar. Likewise "Brahmam" existed unknown to anybody. We all know Brahmam is love, truth, compassion so on and so forth. But remaining as Brahmam how it will feel its love or Truth? That is why Bagawan, in its infinite mercy has narrated a revelation. "There was no body to know who I am until I created the world" Arose the earth and sky, the birds and beasts to prove my existence. The highest knowledge was placed in men". In another place he asserts " I seperated myself from myself". Here Upanishad vakyas pale before the utternce of Avatar. It is direct reveleations we must assimilate in our conscious so that we will not drift away from His Grace. Sairam.

June 3, 2007

Why was it necessary for Brahman that others

should know that He created the world?

Also, He separated Himself from Himself so that He could love Himself.

Why was this necessary? Would it have been such a disaster

if mankind did not exist? These questions have always puzzled my.

Sai Ram.

On 3 Jun 2007, at 12:42, sairam232003 wrote:

> Sugar can not taste itself. It can remain only as sugar. For

> tasting the sugar, a tongue of the taster is necessary. Unless it is

> tasted, what is the use of the sugar. Likewise " Brahmam " existed

> unknown to anybody. We all know Brahmam is love, truth, compassion so

> on and so forth. But remaining as Brahmam how it will feel its love or

> Truth? That is why Bagawan, in its infinite mercy has narrated a

> revelation. " There was no body to know who I am until I created the

> world " Arose the earth and sky, the birds and beasts to prove my

> existence. The highest knowledge was placed in men " . In another place

> he asserts " I seperated myself from myself " . Here Upanishad vakyas

> pale before the utternce of Avatar. It is direct reveleations we must

> assimilate in our conscious so that we will not drift away from His

> Grace. Sairam.

June 4, 2007

Jai Sai Ram !

does this mean Brahmam/GOD/Paramathma also has the desire to be loved/known ???

what is the purpose of CREATION ?

if the entire creation is just a maya, what is the purpose ? who is benefitted ?

we are told that, GOD does not have any desire, so question of benefit does not arise. then what was the motive ?

if the creation itself was not there, there would not be any "karma", etc.

please note that i am not "questioning", i am sincerely interested in an answer.

i sincerely would like to know the answer for this question that is bogging me and till now i have not got a satisfactory answer :please enlighten me, i am all ears.

With Love & Best Wishes, Raghu Ketharam Iyer

Place : Vapi, Gujarat, India.

June 4, 2007

Sairam, I am glad you have opened up your mind and the doubts

that pester the mankind eternally. There will be no answers at the

level of human since it is impossible to dwelve on the Divine

mystries.Regarding your first part of the question, In fact there is

no " others " . The Divine want to enjoy the love. There was no body else

to love the Divine since it alone IS. The so called others are

illusions or projections of the Divine with a vesture of Mind which

hides it completely and instead project the illusory creations. This

is alike a rope seen in the twilight as a snake. Actually there was

only a rope. Due to twilight it is seen as a snake. Once a torch light

is brought and focussed the truth will be revealed. The second part is

also answered in the above. These are all from the discourses of

Saibaba. I too had/have such doubts. Hence we have to depend upon Him

only for our enlightenment.Sairam.

June 5, 2007

Sairam, your doubts are genuine so far as human understanding is concerned. Vedanta can not be explored nor explained in words of understandable language. More so in the case of Avatars. If we apply logic and intellect to their utterances, only confusion will remain for it is not possible for human intellect to search the reality behind their utterance. So far what I make out of Baba's historic pronouncements like "There was no body till I created.....". I take it literally and do not go into the reasons behind it like "why god who doesn't have any desire or attachement to have taught of seperating himself from himself in order to love himself". Hence I am also at a loss to answer your questions in a convincing way. Sairam.