Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 Jai Gurudev, Sadar Pranaam to all the respected members, Just would like to share a thought with you : " Desires are like the breath you take; they are never ending until either you know how to control them or die. " With Regards, Prabhat The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 , Prabhat Gupta <suprabhat_1999 > " Desires are like the breath you take; they are never ending until >either you know how to control them or die. " Prabhatji, thanks for sharing this. Since it is Navratri, we should mention that the demon Raktabeej represents desires / thoughts. whenever his blood falls on the ground, 2 demons take their place. He is killed when Kali drinks all the blood that falls, showing that Devi Kundalni, when she rises, drinks all the energy of the thoughts/desires, making them useless. luv shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2010 Report Share Posted March 17, 2010 , Prabhat Gupta <suprabhat_1999 wrote: > > " Desires are like the breath you take; they are never ending until either you know how to control them or die. " > that is excellent thought !! BTW is there a relation between desires and breath ? Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 > > " Desires are like the breath you take; they are never ending until either you know how to control them or die. " > > -------------------------- HARE RAM, HARE KRISHAN there must be a truth in your statement but my dharma/truth is to ask something or try to say that you are wrong. I am sorry for that. there are some queries. (i) Can you control your desires. If no than who can control your desires. Your answer should be different from the word God as God is everything. Also while answering, introduce who are you so that with respect to that inforamtion about yourself, your answer may be understood. (ii) what is the meaning of the death of a thought. Does it really dies or a thought creates another thought. Under what state a thought is never created again and what would you call it as. (iii) WHO REALLY DIES OR WHAT IS THE TRUTH OF DEATH. HARE RAM, HARE RAM, RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHAN, HARE KRISHAN, KRISHAN KRISHAN, HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 >>>Can you control your desires. If no than who can control your desires. Your answer should be different from the word God as God is everything.>>>  The more I am controlled by my senses,the more desires I have.Each sense (indriya)is like a horse pulling me in a particular direction.The way to control desires is to turn inwards by following the path of contemplation and meditation. The more the mind turns inwards,the desires keep falling off. When finally the mind gets absorbed in the Self, there are no desires left. The person becomes 'purnakaam' and loses his fake identity.  Buddhists handle  desires by 'mindfulness' that is by simply observing the desire and doing nothing about it. There is no effort to control or negate it. After some time the desire is no longer there.I have tried this and it works.  >>WHO REALLY DIES OR WHAT IS THE TRUTH OF DEATH>>   The soul (permanent) takes a body and an identity( both impermanent) and goes through physical experiences. When it has had them ,it leaves the body and then maybe takes another body and identity for another set of experiences.This continues till the soul is ready for liberation. What really 'dies' is the body and the fake identity. It can be compared to the breaking of a clay pot. The space inside the pot (the atma) merges with the space around it(the Parmatma) and the broken pot is clay again.  Regards Rwitoja    --- On Thu, 8/4/10, jitendra k <jtin_ja wrote: jitendra k <jtin_ja Re: Desires and Breath... Thursday, 8 April, 2010, 10:09  > > " Desires are like the breath you take; they are never ending until either you know how to control them or die. " > > ------------ --------- ----- HARE RAM, HARE KRISHAN there must be a truth in your statement but my dharma/truth is to ask something or try to say that you are wrong. I am sorry for that. there are some queries. (i) Can you control your desires. If no than who can control your desires. Your answer should be different from the word God as God is everything. Also while answering, introduce who are you so that with respect to that inforamtion about yourself, your answer may be understood. (ii) what is the meaning of the death of a thought. Does it really dies or a thought creates another thought. Under what state a thought is never created again and what would you call it as. (iii) WHO REALLY DIES OR WHAT IS THE TRUTH OF DEATH. HARE RAM, HARE RAM, RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHAN, HARE KRISHAN, KRISHAN KRISHAN, HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 >The way to control desires is to turn inwards by following the path of contemplation and meditation. > Buddhists handle  desires by 'mindfulness' that is by simply observing the desire and doing nothing about it. There is no effort to control or negate it. After some time the desire is no longer there. What really 'dies' is the body and the fake identity. ---------------------- HARE RAM, HARE KRISHNA Lord Sri Krishna said in Srimad Bhagwad Geeta that there are two kind of persons in this world one who are inward and another who are outward in nature. Lord Sri Krishna said in Srimad Bhagwad Geeta that do everything in my rememberance and at the time of death remember me as I am in sakshi Bhav. Lord Sri Krishna said that after death the soul alongwith man, Buddhi and sankar goes in another body. My quiries are (i) Is it necessary to become inward to get salvation if yes than why. (ii) On keeping obervation on someone, we may loose our faith in Him. If yes, than how can you get freedom from someone if you do not have faith in Him. (iii) But after leaving old body a person lives in another body. Do you think physical body really dies or it merges with astral body and only five elements are left in the dead body which also dissolve in five elements. (iv) If physical body is dead ie it is of no use and do not have any existance than why people burn the dead body. HARE RAM, HARE RAM, RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHNA, HARE KRISHNA, KRISHNA KRISHNA, HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 , " jitendra k " <jtin_ja wrote: > (i) Is it necessary to become inward to get salvation if yes than >why. To start with yes, as the outer world drags our consiouness away. Unless we gather our conciousness, we will never reach moksha. It will be like gathering water in a bucket with many holes. > (ii) On keeping obervation on someone, we may loose our faith in >Him. If yes, than how can you get freedom from someone if you do not >have faith in Him. There is no need for faith in beginning. Thats why Yoga is so succesful. Just keep practicising your Yoga, faith, Bhakti, Gyan wil arise by itself. > (iii) But after leaving old body a person lives in another body. Do >you think physical body really dies or it merges with astral body >and only five elements are left in the dead body which also dissolve >in five elements. Jituji, disolving 5 elements will still not give you moskha, as there is still the mind & the void to cross. For physical death, only the elements that created the body dissolve. But since the person is not free of the elements, he will be reborn into them. The astral body is formed of the subtle form of these elements, so most common people who die are still bound by the elements. > (iv) If physical body is dead ie it is of no use and do not have >any existance than why people burn the dead body. Thats because many people refuse to accept they are dead, & keep hovering around the body trying to get in. Burning the body is a sign that you should move on. In the west, they bury bodies. There are certain low class of spirits that look like skeletons/zombies. These are the people who refuse to move on, & continue to identify with their body, which has decayed. Thats why in India the Rishis decided the body would be burnt, so the soul would get the message it has to move on. luv, shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Respected Members, Jai Gurudev, Sadar Pranaam, Respected Shantanu ji and Jitu ji, what an Enlightening conversation. May GOD Bless You. With Regards, Prabhat shanracer <no_reply > > (i) Is it necessary to become inward to get salvation if yes than >why. To start with yes, as the outer world drags our consiouness away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 , Prabhat Gupta <suprabhat_1999 > Respected Shantanu ji and Jitu ji, what an Enlightening conversation. >May GOD Bless You. Thank you Prabhatji. The way to carry on this conversation is to ask questions, discuss the points, otherwise the conversation dies out. So if you think any part of the conversation needs more discussion, please say so, & we will carry on from there. love, shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Dear Shanracer and others So can desires be controlled by controlling breath ? if yes, how the technique works aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Aum ji Twenty years back I was taking treatment for my stuttering speech. The person handling us was a Professor in Psychology and he seemed to know some yogic techniques. Once during the six day programme, he asked us to chant " mmmmmmmm... " in one full breath as long as it lasted. This he asked to repeat. We did it for the best part of the half hour. We could feel we were chanting less and less audibly as time progressed. No, it was not tiring of the vocal chord. It was very refreshing. Then slowly such a situation arose that the voice could not be raised at all. We chanted mentally. Then that too stopped and there was total inner silence. When we opened our eyes, they checked our pulse, it was 45. The BP was 55 - 35 ! The breathing was rhythmic. We found that we were all speaking with a fine round tone without haste and stutter. In this case the mind had calmed the breath. In my regular Pranayama routine, I do kapalabhati. If I do a round of 500 , then at the end follows a breathless period for about a minute. During this, I neither feel any need to inhale or exhale. The breathing simply stops. Sometimes, I consciously watch the vanishing of breath. There are other times when I am not aware of even that. I suddenly seem to enter consciousness from somewhere. I thing it was the accompanying thoughtlessness accompanied with the vanishing of breath. This is so far my observation of thought- breath relationship. But I have heard about how we breathe when in deep sleep and how a child breathes. The rhythm dictated by the smooth flow of thoughts. Namaste Venkat , " AUM " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > > Dear Shanracer and others > > So can desires be controlled by controlling breath ? > > if yes, how the technique works > > aum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 , " Venkat " <apexpreci2000 wrote: > > Aum ji > > Twenty years back I was taking treatment for my stuttering speech. Dear Venkat, thanks for sharing your experience. We in have a small group of 7 people who have been doing sadhna together. One day just for pure anxiety, a friend who had bought a BP meter, checked the BP of all and then we chanted Aummmmmm (long humming sound, as the doctor told for you) and after about half hours chanting, all of us had lower BP on both counts. It was in agreeable but lower limits. Pranayama, specially has a tremendous effect on our body. in 2006 when I reach India after evacuation from Beirut, i got a paralysis attack and one eye became rigid, and the mouth was deformed. I was unable to speak. The physiotherapist asked me to chant Aum Namah Shivaya. The doctor said that he was an atheist and did not believe in mantras etc, but according to him the Mantra Aum Namah Shivaya, gives a powerful sensation and exercise to all the important nerves which control eyes and mouth. And very soon I was OK. I feel lower the breathing rate, lower is the thought process, because thoughts take fuel from prana incoming through breathing and the lesser the fuel, the lesser are thoughts. During meditation, everyone feels a black out for a few moments, when there is no sensation of body, and no thoughts. At this moment, breathing also stops. I wait for more input from our wise members aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 , " jitendra k " <jtin_ja wrote: > My quiries are > > (i) Is it necessary to become inward to get salvation if yes than why. Dear Jitinder, The arrangement of our body mind complex is that Maya, keeps our mind busy in analysing the information received from outer world, through our 5 gyan indriyas. This Information triggers the earlier memories, and future inferences and mind is continuously busy in analysing them. During sleep, the memories collected during day, is again re-arranged and re-analysed by mind, which we see as dreams. The mind's job is to analyse. If we cut down the external stimulii, (by shutting our eyes, by not listening and by not moving body parts as in Dhyana, and stop our desires and sankalapas for a moment, the mind will be baffled. It would have nothing to analyse, and then it would started analysing itself and its source...which is our Soul. Hence it is necessary to turn inwards and let the mind find its source and get enlightened. > (ii) On keeping obervation on someone, we may loose our faith in Him. If yes, than how can you get freedom from someone if you do not have faith in Him. > > What makes you think we lose faith my obervation of something ? I think this is not correct. > (iii) But after leaving old body a person lives in another body. Do you think physical body really dies or it merges with astral body and only five elements are left in the dead body which also dissolve in five elements. > Physical body is burnt where it merges with the elements, immediately, or burried, where it slowly decays. Astral Body (consisting of four bodies viz. Pranamaya Kosha, Manomaya Kosha, Vigyanmaya Kosha and Anandmaya Kosha) leave the body at the time of death. Kundalini encases all these bodies and takes them to astral worlds and then to next birth. Physical body decomposes and gross memories are merged in the Akashik records. > (iv) If physical body is dead ie it is of no use and do not have any existance than why people burn the dead body. > Burning the body is best, because the astral body still has an affinity with the body. Those with strong will power, do not leave the body, till it exists. Hence our rishis prescribed burning the body and the son doing Kapal kriya in which part of skull is broken with a bamboo. This breaks the final contact point between physical body and astral body. In case of burying, the astral body keeps hovering around its body till its finally destroyed, thus delaying the astral journey of soul. We find more ghosts in burial grounds, than in Shamshan Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 Dear Sirs, It is demonstrated in laboratory experiments too ( by Deikman and others ) that slower the breathing, lesser the thoughts and often when breath 'stops', there will be no thoughts too. chittavrittinirodha/modify(quieten) activities of the mind as the purpose of the Yoga ( Patanjali ) - because tada drashtuh swaruupe aavasthanam/then the seer will be established in his own nature - may also mean the same thing. However, for Patanjali, mental activities means waking, sleeping and dreaming states too ( what a revolutionary concept ) and one should go beyond the three states to enter the prajna loka/world of pure consciousness, our true original nature. Regards, Thimmappa , aumji <no_reply wrote: > > > > , " Venkat " <apexpreci2000@> wrote: > > > > Aum ji > > > > Twenty years back I was taking treatment for my stuttering speech. > > Dear Venkat, > > thanks for sharing your experience. We in have a small group of 7 people who have been doing sadhna together. One day just for pure anxiety, a friend who had bought a BP meter, checked the BP of all and then we chanted Aummmmmm (long humming sound, as the doctor told for you) and after about half hours chanting, all of us had lower BP on both counts. It was in agreeable but lower limits. > > Pranayama, specially has a tremendous effect on our body. in 2006 when I reach India after evacuation from Beirut, i got a paralysis attack and one eye became rigid, and the mouth was deformed. I was unable to speak. The physiotherapist asked me to chant Aum Namah Shivaya. > > The doctor said that he was an atheist and did not believe in mantras etc, but according to him the Mantra Aum Namah Shivaya, gives a powerful sensation and exercise to all the important nerves which control eyes and mouth. And very soon I was OK. > > I feel lower the breathing rate, lower is the thought process, because thoughts take fuel from prana incoming through breathing and the lesser the fuel, the lesser are thoughts. > > During meditation, everyone feels a black out for a few moments, when there is no sensation of body, and no thoughts. At this moment, breathing also stops. > > I wait for more input from our wise members > > aum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 HARE RAM, HARE KRISHAN Prabhat Sir: Desires are like the breath you take; they are never ending until either you know how to control them or die. " Fundamental query: Is it possible to get freedom from desires by controlling them. Jitendra Query: Is it necessary to become inward to get salvation if yes than why. Santanu Sir: To start with yes, as the outer world drags our consiouness away. Unless we gather our conciousness, we will never reach moksha. It will be like gathering water in a bucket with many holes. Aum Sir: The arrangement of our body mind complex is that Maya, keeps our mind busy in analysing the information received from outer world, through our 5 gyan indriyas. > The mind's job is to analyse. If we cut down the external stimulii, (by shutting our eyes, by not listening and by not moving body parts as in Dhyana, and stop our desires and sankalapas for a moment, the mind will be baffled. Further Jitendra's Queries: (i) If mind works exactly on the sense subjects (information) only than Why most of the times) it happens that our eye(sense) see the Lord's statue but mind live with the girlfriend. In other way when we remains in meditation in inward direction than also why our mind lives in the holes of the outer worlds. (ii) If mind's job is to analyse than what the intellect does. (iii) Why do you want to stop the desires and sankalp's. Assuming that Jitendra's desire is to know more and more about the spiritualism and the Lord Sri Krishna his leela and mmmore. (iv) Is it not true that whatever is inside is outside too. (v) Is it possible to get salvation without considering OUTER WORLD. 2. Jitendra's query: On keeping obervation on someone, we may loose our faith in Him. If yes, than how can you get freedom from someone if you do not have faith in Him. Shantanu Sir: There is no need for faith in beginning. Thats why Yoga is so succesful. Just keep practicising your Yoga, faith, Bhakti, Gyan wil arise by itself. AUM SIR: What makes you think we lose faith my obervation of something ? I think this is not correct. Jitendra's comments: We are observing desire that these should not come to my self means we understand that desires are bad for us and do not have faith in desires that they are also Shakti who is a form of God. Further Jitendra's Queries: (i) What is faith (ii) How do we creat faith in someone in someone in physical world. (iii) what is the role of faith in spiritualism. 3. Jitendra's query : But after leaving old body a person lives in another body. Do you think physical body really dies or it merges with astral body and only five elements are left in the dead body which also dissolve in five elements. Shantanyu Sir: Thats because many people refuse to accept they are dead, & keep hovering around the body trying to get in. Burning the body is a sign that you should move on. AUM SIR: Physical body decomposes and gross memories are merged in the Akashik records. > Further Jitendra's queries (i) What is meaning by the term " death " and what really dies. Body is made of five elements and it again dissolved into the Nature's five elements. HARE RAM, HARE RAM,RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHNA, HARE KRISHNA, KRISHAN KRISHAN, HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 , " jitendra k " <jtin_ja wrote: > > Aum Sir: > (i) If mind works exactly on the sense subjects (information) only than Why most of the times) it happens that our eye(sense) see the Lord's statue but mind live with the girlfriend. > > In other way when we remains in meditation in inward direction than also why our mind lives in the holes of the outer worlds. Dear Jitinder, As I told mind has three sources of disturbances viz. 1- External information (from indriyas) 2- Past memories and future sankalpas 3- information from the undermind or supermind so if past memories of your girl friend are very strong, they will overrule the info received from indriyas and will keep mind busy in that past memory or any future sankalpas. ---------------- > (ii) If mind's job is to analyse than what the intellect does. ==>Intellect is part of mind only and helps mind in giving decisions. ----------------- > (iii) Why do you want to stop the desires and sankalp's. Assuming that Jitendra's desire is to know more and more about the spiritualism and the Lord Sri Krishna his leela and mmmore. => such desires and sankalpas should not be stopped. We should begin with controlling the Tamoguni desires and sankalpas first... then the Rajoguni... and finally the Satoguni too. We need a needle to take out the little wood splinter from our finger... once the splinter is out, we dont need the needle. > --------------- > (iv) Is it not true that whatever is inside is outside too. ==> Yes our shastras say Yatha Brahmaand... tatha pinda.. whatever is in universe is in our body too -------------- > > (v) Is it possible to get salvation without considering OUTER WORLD. ===> in fact to start our journey towards truth, we have to temprarily shut down the outer world and go deep inside the mind and see its source. Once we experience the source, then we should try to see that source outside too. beginning from outside is possible,but the most difficult too Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 HARE RAM, HARE KRISHNA such desires and sankalpas should not be stopped. We should begin with controlling the Tamoguni desires and sankalpas first... then the Rajoguni... and finally the Satoguni too. -------------------------- THANKS A LOT SIR JI FOR BEAUTIFUL ANSWERS FROM ALL THE SADHAKAS Further my query Sir ji what control tamoguni desires first? HARE RAM, HARE RAM, RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHNA, HARE KRISHNA, KRISHNA KRISHNA, HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 , " jitendra k " <jtin_ja wrote: > Further my query Sir ji > > what control tamoguni desires first? > Dear jeetu bhai,the question is not clear ! please rephrase it aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 > > what control tamoguni desires first? > > > Dear jeetu bhai,the question is not clear ! please rephrase it > -------------------- HARE RAM, HARE KRISHNA Sir Ji (i) What is the difference between kamana and Ichha (ii) How the desire is created. (iii) Do the word " TAMO GUNI DESIRE " and " Sato Guni Desires " is correct. Because tamo guni person's symtoms are sleeping , not doing anything, laziness, etc (iv)why do you want to control the desires. (v) Dwedi Sir has already explained that turning inwards and keeping watch on desires ( observation) is the way to control the desires. Do you think Sir that there are other methods to control the desires. If so, please share with us. (vi) is it possible to get moksha by CONTROLLING the desires. HARE RAM, HARE RAM,RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHNA, HARE KRISHNA,KRISHNA KRISHNA, HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2010 Report Share Posted April 21, 2010 , " jitendra k " <jtin_ja wrote: > > (i) What is the difference between kamana and Ichha Ichhaa or desire is the beginning point and kamna is intense desire for a thing /person for exmaple i desire to get a lottery and continue thinking over this Ichha and finally it becomes my Kamnaa and all my future plannings/deeds are centred around this. > (ii) How the desire is created. Desires are created by our subconscious on getting a stumulii from external world.. or from our memory of past. > > (iii) Do the word " TAMO GUNI DESIRE " and " Sato Guni Desires " is correct. Because tamo guni person's symtoms are sleeping , not doing anything, laziness, etc > Tamoguna is anything which bars us from progressing in sadhna. So lazyness, over sleeping etc. Tamoguni desires are those which stop us from doing Satoguna work (like charity, service, love etc) or stop us on path of truth. > (iv)why do you want to control the desires. Desires are a prison, which does not let us go out of our Ego. Fill one desire and it will be generating more...and then more like through a bite of food to a crow and then more crows come and then more and more.. > > (v) Dwedi Sir has already explained that turning inwards and keeping watch on desires ( observation) is the way to control the desires. Do you think Sir that there are other methods to control the desires. If so, please share with us. > > (vi) is it possible to get moksha by CONTROLLING the desires. Controling desires alone is not sufficient. It is first step there are many other things to do What ever path we chose, Pranayama, Yoga, meditation, tantra... all these reduce the desires. There is no need to force desires to stop.... let us do the sadhna and desires will be controlled Aum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2010 Report Share Posted April 22, 2010 HARE RAM, HARE KRISHNA THANKS FOR BEAUTIFULL ANSWERS SORRY FOR INCONVENIENCE DUE TO MY POOR ENGLISH Further Queries: (i) Is it not true that " desire may also exist in a timeless world " . (ii) Does the desires can be created by intellect also. If yes than please share. (iii) Do the God differentiates between Tamo guna and Sat guna and do the God likes the people of Sato guna only. What would you call to KUMBHKARAN - Sato Guni or Tamo Guni (iv) Is it not possible that a strong desire sometimes reduces many desires. Like for today my desire is to meditate for the whole day than other desires of the whole day may be reduced. (v) what is the meaning of " CONTROL OF DESIRES " HARE RAM, HARE RAM, RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHNA, HARE KRISHNA, KRISHNA KRISHNA, HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 , " jitendra k " <jtin_ja wrote: > > Further Queries: > > (i) Is it not true that " desire may also exist in a timeless world " . > ===> Yes this is true ! desires are not bound by time and space. > (ii) Does the desires can be created by intellect also. If yes than please share. > Intellect ? Desire starts from subconscious and is read by mind and analysed by intellect, which allows action on desire or stops it due to environments.... that is the role of intellect. It does not start anything. > (iii) Do the God differentiates between Tamo guna and Sat guna and do the God likes the people of Sato guna only. > NO precisely, For God all gunas are ok..Here God takes Tamoguna as a barrier between us and Him...that z all. > What would you call to KUMBHKARAN - Sato Guni or Tamo Guni > He was pure Tamoguni (impure tamo is different)... sleep is pure tamogun, and it is not bad over all > (iv) Is it not possible that a strong desire sometimes reduces many desires. Like for today my desire is to meditate for the whole day than other desires of the whole day may be reduced. > Yes this is what Patanjali meant in his Yoga sutras. He tells to make one desire strong to suppress other desirers and then leave that one desire/sankalpa/thought too to become thoughtless. > (v) what is the meaning of " CONTROL OF DESIRES " > Control of desires : we should be aware of the origin of desire and our Buddhi should be strong enough to stop us from fulfilling that desire if it is bad for our health or spirituality. > > HARE RAM, HARE RAM, RAM RAM, HARE HARE, HARE KRISHNA, HARE KRISHNA, KRISHNA KRISHNA, HARE HARE > AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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