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Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:33:40 +0000

God is nearer to ?

 

 

 

 

 

God is nearer to Heart or Mind ?

 

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, aumji <no_reply wrote:

 

> God is nearer to Heart or Mind ?

 

Aumji, Vedant/Yogis have said the source of our Conciousness, Chetna, is the

heart. The Upanishads also call the Causal body the Thumb sized person who lives

in the heart(this is not the physical heart, or even the heart chakra, but the

spiritual heart, the Causal body).

Thats why Raman Maharishi & other Vedantins meditate on the source of

conciousness in the Heart.

From this it would seem God is nearer to the Heart.

 

But if you take the mind not be the lower physical brain, but the Agya/Sahasra

Chakras, which are connected to the Universal Mind, then God is nearer the Mind,

as per Kundalni Yoga, Gods grace descends from Sahasra downwards.

 

One might even say that the Heart *is* the Mind, as our real mind is intuition

based- it knows everything, but may not be able to explain why. This is the

intuition of the Vigyana layer in Causal body. Since Intuition comes from heart

chakra, one may say the real mind is based in heart, in which case God is close

to both, but via the heart chakra.

 

What do you think?

 

love,

Shantnu

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, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

 

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> One might even say that the Heart *is* the Mind, as our real mind is intuition

based- it knows everything, but may not be able to explain why. This is the

intuition of the Vigyana layer in Causal body. Since Intuition comes from heart

chakra, one may say the real mind is based in heart, in which case God is close

to both, but via the heart chakra.

>

> What do you think?

>

> love,

> Shantnu

>

 

 

hmm nice thoughts !! can we say the " Hridya " is actually that part of Mind

which works on emotions and intuitions ?

 

and Buddhi that part of mind which works on rational logics, memories and facts

?

 

aum

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, aumji <no_reply wrote:

 

>

> hmm nice thoughts !! can we say the " Hridya " is actually that part >of Mind

which works on emotions and intuitions ?

> and Buddhi that part of mind which works on rational logics, memories >and

facts ?

 

 

Aumji, I agree. The narrow definition of mind has come due to physical sciences

insistence of confusing mind with brain.

 

The mind, as per Yoga, includes the thinking part, emotions(Hridaya), Buddhi,

Intuition, & Instinct(that which warns us when we are near danger etc).

 

The whole Bhakti vs Gyan debate has come by because people created an artificial

barrier between mind & emotions, when in truth they are the same thing. People

have divided & broken their mind, which is why their mind is weak & why they

think they need to get rid of it.

 

A balanced Mind, the refelction of Universal Mind, will contain Wisdom, Love,

Intelligence & Intuition. Only this Mind can lead to Moksha.

 

 

love,

Shantnu

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True, i agree

 

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

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> , aumji <no_reply@> wrote:

>

> >

> > hmm nice thoughts !! can we say the " Hridya " is actually that part >of Mind

which works on emotions and intuitions ?

> > and Buddhi that part of mind which works on rational logics, memories >and

facts ?

>

>

> Aumji, I agree. The narrow definition of mind has come due to physical

sciences insistence of confusing mind with brain.

>

> The mind, as per Yoga, includes the thinking part, emotions(Hridaya), Buddhi,

Intuition, & Instinct(that which warns us when we are near danger etc).

>

> The whole Bhakti vs Gyan debate has come by because people created an

artificial barrier between mind & emotions, when in truth they are the same

thing. People have divided & broken their mind, which is why their mind is weak

& why they think they need to get rid of it.

>

> A balanced Mind, the refelction of Universal Mind, will contain Wisdom, Love,

Intelligence & Intuition. Only this Mind can lead to Moksha.

>

>

> love,

> Shantnu

>

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