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> So just not doing bad deed and doing only good deeds also leads to

a

> rebirth due to good karma? is this right?

>

> so does this mean, after the bad karmic debts are neutralised it is

the

> good karma which has to be neutralised to merge with the supreme?

>>

I am very small to given an answer to this.

 

As far as I understand, nobody can remain without doing a single

Karma. Shri Krishn has said in Geeta that there is nothing for me to

achieve. Even then, i always do some or the other thing because if I

do not do any Karma this universe will collapse.

 

All our great saints, Sri Aurobindo, Ramakrishna Paramhansa,

Vivekanand etc. never avoid Karmas.

 

So, after neutrilizing bad karmas, we should do only good karmas

thinking that God wants us to do this and we are doing only our duty

towards HIM. Or else, do good karma and offer them to God. This way

good karmas will not bind us for re-birth.

 

My appologies to all if i said something not proper.

 

Jai Gurudev

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> So just not doing bad deed and doing only good deeds also leads to a

> rebirth due to good karma? is this right?

> so does this mean, after the bad karmic debts are neutralised it is

> good karma which has to be neutralised to merge with the supreme?

 

>birth, in next birth you kill me, and in next to next i kill you and

>this will continue for ages. Which type of karma dont bind us ?

>Karma is very complex. Can someone make it little simpler ?

 

>Ansuya

 

 

Senthil, your question is related to Anusyas, so I will answer them

together.

 

Good karmas also bind, so it might seem that we should do no karma at

all. But thats not possible, as Pradeepji has pointed out, Krishna

says no one can exist without doing Karma.

 

The Karma game seems very complex, as everything we do seems to

entangle us. Thats why many people want to run to the forest, as they

cant see a way out. But this is not the way.....

 

The reason why Karma binds us, is because we identify with the body &

with our actions. The renunciation we have to do is not with actions,

but attachment to action.

 

Morever, the karmic game, though it appeares complicated, is quiet

simple. Because we think we are this limited body, the actions of this

body bind us. The day we start thinking we are the Universal spirit,

or the Cosmic conciousness, actions will cease to bind us.

 

So no, we shouldnt stop doing good Karma, as thats what the Universal

system wants us to do. Any action that helps another soul progress

spiritually is a virtue. Any action that causes another souls

spiritual progress to slow or stop is sin, & should be avoided. So

killing someone isnt necessarily a sin- if it helps their spiritual

progress(like God kills the demons like Ravan). But killing to satisfy

bodily ego will cause a reaction, which we have to suffer.

 

Hope its a bit clear now.

 

love

Shantnu

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> One of my freind while discussing said, the great souls ( enlightened

Namaste Senthil

Lord Krishna speaks of the gyaani or enlightened that he doesnt have to

bear consequences of good and the bad actions because the gyaanis ego

is burnt with his gyaan.He never thinks that he is the one who is doing

karma.He is enlightened with the truth that he is not the body or the

senses but the aatman.

Also he says that sanyasa or renouncement isnt giving up karma the one

who gives up karma can neither be a renouncer nor a yogi. The

enlightened do good karma but they are not bound by it

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, in next birth you kill me, and in next to next i kill you

and

> >this will continue for ages. Which type of karma dont bind us ?

> >Karma is very complex. Can someone make it little simpler ?

>

> >Ansuya

>

>

> Senthil, your question is related to Anusyas, so I will answer them

> together.

>

Dear Anusuya ji

 

good karma and bad both bind.We have to suffer consequences of both.

So as Shantanu ji say one has to rise above karma but not by giving

it up.Karma cant be given up as Pradeep ji said as long as we

live.Thats why they say that gyaan is required to be free from the

shackles of karma.Liberation is also being liberated in the life

itself.Lord Krishna says- " the good karmas are like shackles of gold

and the bad like those of iron. It is good to be free of both "

but this doesnt mean that one actually gives up karma as Lord Krishna

says no one cant not do karma we have to eat, wake up, live etc thus

the path of karma yoga and sankhya is suggested by lord Krishna.

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Om Namah Shivaya.

 

Thanks ShanJi, AradhanaJi & pradeepJi.

 

Yes, animals do no good or bad karma, just pass trho that birth as a

result of past karma, but never ( exept exemptions ) merge with the

supreme.

 

I understand, escaping from Karmic cycle is no way.

 

I also understand the test has to be passed along with the progress

in sadhna / spirituality, but once we climb up the ladder the lesser

will be the negativity. And even the good karma will be burnt out

when we attain that state, as said by AaradhnaJi.

 

Thanks.

 

Also pls explain the spiritual meaning of Karna giving away his good

deeds to Krishna? what does that teach us?

 

Thanks once again.

 

Shivaya Namah Aum.

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> Yes, animals do no good or bad karma, just pass trho that birth as a

> result of past karma, but never ( exept exemptions ) merge with the

> supreme.

 

> I understand, escaping from Karmic cycle is no way.

 

> I also understand the test has to be passed along with the progress

> in sadhna / spirituality, but once we climb up the ladder the lesser

> Also pls explain the spiritual meaning of Karna giving away his good

> deeds to Krishna? what does that teach us?

 

 

>yes Senthil.I think you are right.

 

for your last question I dont know of what you are talking about from

the scriptures but doing good karma and giving it to god is karma

yoga.Do tell the episode that you are talking about so that I also can

know

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, pradeep8_56 <no_reply wrote:

>> So, after neutrilizing bad karmas, we should do only good karmas

> thinking that God wants us to do this and we are doing only our duty

> towards HIM. Or else, do good karma and offer them to God.

 

 

I fully agree with you Pradeep !!! shri Krishna has said in Geeta that

there is nothing to be achieved by Him, still he does karma...because

if He stops karma for a moment...the nature will collapse.

 

Karma is really a complex philosophy, as Ansuya said...it cant be

really understood so easily...otherwise in these 1000s of years,

people would have understood, that doing good brings good and doing

bad brings bad.... so humans would all have become good

 

But Nature did not want the manifestation to collapse so early...so

karmic results still remain mystery.

 

Common persons are forced by their Karmic debts to do karma..and are

bound fully by Karma and Nature.

 

First stage sadhaka should avoid bad karma....and do good karma only

 

second stage sadhaka should stop bad karma and offer good karma to god

 

third stage sadhaka...does all the karmas expected by God...and offers

them to god

 

fourth stage sadhaka...forgets he is doing karma... he works as an

alive tool of god...and knows it is god doing Karma through him

 

It is only at third & fourth level...that Karmas stop binding

humans ...(these levels are just my idea so dont ask for source LOL)

 

Hari Aum