Guest guest Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 Namaste. Like to add this message as a continuation of my previous post: yasya nAhaMkRto bhAvo buddhir yasya na lipyate hatvA 'pi sa imAM lokAn na hanti na nibadhyate (Gita- 18.17) " He who is FREE from the notion of EGOISM and whose understanding is NOT tainted - though he kills these people, he kills NOT, NOR is he BOUND. " Modifications such as agency and egoism create difference between man and man. But as man EVOLVES high, he is able to outgrow ALL modifications and be established in Pure Consciousness. Let us take cases of men being affected by modifications and those not being affected by them. Men ACT on the stage as murdering and as being murdered. These acts being MERE pretence, agency and egoism are ABSENT in them. The ACTORS are NOT affected by the staged modifications. But where actual murder takes place, the concerned men are affected by the modifications of agency and egoism. Whereas to a spiritually EVOLVED man stage act and life act are one and the same. Because of the ABSENCE of EGOISM, NO modification of any kind takes place in his MIND. There are instances of this in the Mahabharata war itself. Arjuna vanquished his grandfather Bhishma in the encounter. But he did NOT harbour the egoistic feeling that he caused the death of the grandsire. His MIND was FREE from that modification. While waiting to give up the body in the auspicious northern passage of the sun, Bhishma DID NOT feel that he was vanquished. Non-ego was the cause of it. As a man casts off a worn-out clothing, Bhishma cast off his old body, unattached as he was to it. The reflection of a moving body is seen in a mirror. That mirror is NOT the creator of the reflection and its movement. The reflection leaves no impression either in the mirror. While reflecting the things as they are, the mirror is ever itself, UN-attached, UN-affected and UN-modified. Like the mirror is Atman, the pure Consciousness. It reveals the activities of the Prakriti. But Atman is NO doer of karma. It is NOT bound in spite of Its being the lord, ruler and regulator of the Prakriti. That 'Jivatman' who TRACES his ORIGINAL STATE to this Pure Consciousness REGAINS his taintless understanding. Freed that he is from EGOISM, he is NOT affected by the actions of the body and the senses. Happenings such as KILLING and being KILLED are ALL modifications of the Prakriti. As Atman is supremely above karma, the KNOWER of Atman also RISES above the turmoils of karma. " Purusha is free from karma. No vibration of any kind takes place in him. Prakriti is the doer of all karma, while Purusha is MERELY the WITNESS to it. But for the presence of the Purusha, NO action is possible for the Prakriti. So say the scriptures. " - Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa Another explanation of: Gita 18.17 yasya nAhaGkRtI bhAvo buddhir yasya na lipyate hatvApi sa imAn lokAn na hanti na nibadhyate In the state where one no longer thinks he is the doer, whose intelligence is not tainted by the modes of nature, he may kill all these worlds, and yet not really be killing, nor be bound by his acts. Radhakrishna interprets this as follows-- The freed man does his work as the instrument of the Universal Spirit and for the mainenance of the cosmic order. He performs even terrific deeds without any selfish aim or desire but because it is the ordained duty. What matters is not the work but the spirit in which it is done. " Though he slays from the worldly standpoint, he does not slay in truth. " Zaehner thinks this is a " disturbing doctrine. " He writes: " Killing only takes place on the phenomenal plane, not on that of the Absolute. This disturbing doctrine had already been proclaimed in Gita 2.18-19 as it had in the Upanishads. ....... , pyari_h <no_reply wrote: > Spiritual seekers should 'study' the entire Gita, 18 chapters. > We cannot draw simple conclusions based on one or two verses. > > We all know Bhagavadgita is known as 'Gitopanishad', as another > Upanishad itself and is considered being one of the esteemed' > Prasthana Trayam'. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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