SPIRITUAL ENERGY CAN BE TRANSMITTED BY MEDITATION

[Guest guest]

I AM NEW JOINEE TO OUR GROUP. WISH ALL OUR MEMBERS HAVE THE LOVE AND

BLESSING OF OUR ALMIGHTY.

 

I REQUEST OUR GROUP MEMBERS TO CLARIFY THE FOLLOWING

 

IS IT POSSIBLE TO TRANSMIT SPIRITUAL ENERGY BY MEDITATION FROM ONE SOUL

TO ANOTHER SOUL. ALSO WHETHER WE CAN ATTAIN GODLINESS BY MEDITATION

AFTER REMOVING OF ALL IMPRESSIONS (SAMSKARAS) BY OUR GURU.

 

KINDLY PONDER OVER THIS SUBJECT AND ENLIGHTEN ME

 

WITH LOVE AND AFFECTION

 

KRISHNA

[Guest guest]

Hello Krishna,

 

Welcome to our group.

 

What you mention is called Shaktipat- the most overused & abused word

in spiritual dictionary!

 

What happens is that when, by your *own* efforts, your reach a certain

level, & Gods wants to give his grace to you, he uses some higher soul

as an intermediary.

 

This person is like a catalyst. In chemistry, a catalyst helps a

reaction, but isnt changed by itself. So a reaction that wouldnt have

taken place on its own, takes place when a catalyst is added. The

catalyst is unchanged at the end.

 

The Guru does the same- he takes Gods energy, & gives it you. This

energy doesnt help the Guru. So why cant you get Gods energy directly?

Simple- because unless you are prepared, this energy may kill you.

 

Many lazy people think they will do nothing, but sit on their

backside, & a Guru will come to give them Shaktipat. In fact, any Guru

who claims to give Shaktipat is a fraud- as the Guru never gives

Shaktipat! The Shaktipat is given by God, who uses some advanced soul

as a medium.

 

As such, if you are an honest seeker who meditates often, even going

in the presence of a higher soul will start Shaktipat. The guru or

student has to do nothing. The student at least has to be sincere, but

the if Guru is real, there will be no need for rituals, energy will

flow automatcally.

 

So yes, Shatipat does happen. But beware of Gurus who claim to do this

conciously- as this can only happen with someone who has destroyed his

ego, and such a person will never claim he has the power to awaken

your Kundalni etc.

[Guest guest]

could you tell em the name of your Guru, I would like to seek his guidance;

 

Om Namah Shivah

 

Ajit Tiwari

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Om Guruvay Namah

On transmitting the energy from one soul to another.

This is every much possible and higher soul do it frequently for

benefit of their loved ones. The only condition for this is that both

the parties should have true love for each other.

My Guruji has sent me spiritual as well as hehealing energy from a

long distance many times and I have felt it very clearly. On meeting,

I asked him and he admitted doing so.

 

, " srcm_tdk " <srcm_tdk wrote:

>

> I AM NEW JOINEE TO OUR GROUP. WISH ALL OUR MEMBERS HAVE THE LOVE AND

> BLESSING OF OUR ALMIGHTY.

>

> I REQUEST OUR GROUP MEMBERS TO CLARIFY THE FOLLOWING

>

> IS IT POSSIBLE TO TRANSMIT SPIRITUAL ENERGY BY MEDITATION FROM ONE

SOUL

> TO ANOTHER SOUL. ALSO WHETHER WE CAN ATTAIN GODLINESS BY MEDITATION

> AFTER REMOVING OF ALL IMPRESSIONS (SAMSKARAS) BY OUR GURU.

>

> KINDLY PONDER OVER THIS SUBJECT AND ENLIGHTEN ME

>

> WITH LOVE AND AFFECTION

>

> KRISHNA

>

[Guest guest]

There are some very advanced souls in this group, who can offer you

guidance.

 

Some of our members are real masters. Like all real masters, they dont

go around boasting how great they are, but prefer to stay in the

background.

 

So dont look for a Guru, but meditate, & a Guru will find you.

 

Love,

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

What advanced souls? What souls? Who are they, these people you

speak of? Who is it here that is seperated? Are we all not of the

same energy, source of being? No one is greater than any other.

 

If you are truly seeking a teacher then stay focused that one will

arrive when you are ready. YOu must remember that everything we

encounter is a teaching from the sat guru, and you must be open and

willing to learn from everything. This all that you see is a

reflection of That Which YOU truly Are.

 

I prayed for two and a half years to recieve a teacher, and for one

and a half years to move from the city I lived in. Although I did

not see it at the time, both of my prayers had been answered.

 

When I was asking for these things I did not expect that I would be

where I am now or that I would ever had brought any other form of

worship into my life, especially one that I had originally viewed as

being pagan.

 

I may not always be focused on God, but there has never been a time

when I have been with out my faith, love and devotion.

[Guest guest]

GURU IS SELF

 

namasivayam

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, caisuir <no_reply wrote:

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While it is true that all souls are equal... but those who have not

yet realised it themselves...still need guru

 

Here higher soul is a symbolic word.. souls are all equal..

 

higher souls may mean those who have advanced on the path of

spirituality in comparison to those who have not yet !

 

Guru is important for spiritual upliftment and that guru can be

an old scripture...written by a realised one, a living person or

sometimes God himself talks directly to us and becomes our guru

 

When a student is ready guru will appear everywhere!!

 

Everyone is not so lucky to get direct guidance from God..

hence most of the people need a physical body to work as their

guru....and not necessarily it is always one person. Take example of

Paramhansa, so many gurus came to teach him various forms of

meditations

 

Guru reflects the light of God onto his disciple. As i wrote in

my earlier posts. We should not wait for a guru to start

meditation. We should go ahead with the sadhna...if required God

will be sending us the guru

 

and we should not forget that it is ultimately Krishna who is

guru to the mankind.. now how he guides..is his wish !

 

with love

 

baba

[Guest guest]

, AKTW5 wrote:

>

> could you tell em the name of your Guru, I would like to seek his

guidance;

>

> Om Namah Shivah

>

> Ajit Tiwari

 

 

Welcome tiwariji to our satsang !!

 

You have raised a very beautiful point about sadhna and let us not

lose it in wake of names and fames of gurus.

 

Guru is important in sadhna, but certainly not a pre-requisite !!

 

Spiritual Energy can be transmitted by meditation.. it is a

Truth and those who have been in contact with some progressed

sadhakas, will vouch for it.

 

Now how it works.. we should discuss that

 

Those who have progressed sufficiently on path of sadhna...

normally have their Chakras clear of negativity and activated.

 

Love plays a big role in this energy transmission. If there is

love between two persons and they sit together... normally energy

starts flowing between them, even if they are not sadhakas.

 

Now for sadhakas.... when a guru and disciple are fully attuned to

each other... there is a natural flow of positive energy from guru to

sadhkaa... and sometimes both of them may not even be aware of this

flow !!

 

Distance does not matter in this case.. the moment we start

thinking about our guru... the energy starts flowing, and this inflow

gives a boost to the sadhna of the disciple.

 

perhaps we can have more discussion on this

 

with love

 

baba

[Guest guest]

> What advanced souls? What souls? Who are they, these people you

> speak of? Who is it here that is seperated? Are we all not of the

> same energy, source of being? No one is greater than any other.

 

Caisurji, water exists in the mud, in the well & in the sea. Yet it is

isnt exactly same, as only one is useful for drinking!

 

Such airy talk sounds impressive, but what use is it to people who are

suffering in the world? If you goto a hungry man, & ask why hes

hungry, as all is Brahm, all is Sat-chit-ananda, do you think he will

be happy?

 

We have to see the level we are at, how far we have further to go. If

we can go it alone, thats fine, otherwise there is no harm in taking

help of those further on the path. At least they can help us reach the

level they are at!

 

love

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

Om Nama Shivaya.

 

The nature of egoism is such that you will not able to find out your

own defects. It is only the guru who will find out your defects. He

shows the right path. A guru is absolutely necessary for every aspirant

in the spiritual path.

 

The guru becomes a channel for putting the wandering, lost jivatma

(individual soul) back into contact with its source, the universal

soul. The guru is a channel for the jivatma to relink itself with

Parmatma.

 

Grace of God takes the form of the guru. The guru is God himself

manifesting in personal form to guide the aspirant. Man can learn from

man only, and hence, God teaches through a human body.

 

The guru-disciple bond is the most important relationship in a human

life. It is in actual fact not a relationship between two human beings,

but is the divine reaching out to the divine. This association is

therefore not limited by time and space, but is an expression of the

infinite.

 

Shivaya Nama Aum.

Thiruchitrambalam.

Senthil.