approp teachings in Bramacharia

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" Besides, you still haven't touched on the bramachari's responsibility in all

this, as I've always said " The org is always right " , no wonder no one learns,

because there's no mistakes to begin with. "

 

Dear Tom,

I am very saddened to hear what you wrote on the other list. That it is the

Bramachari's Dharma to do the right thing as well as Ammachi's. The summer we

began to get closer to one another, my father had a very dangerous case of

cancer, I was very vulnerable and upset, apart from the excited and fearful

emotions of falling in love. My father was operated on that summer and so far he

is OK.

 

Ammachi even gave Kamal private hotel rooms while traveling on some of the tour

stops during the time we were together. I feel very hurt, and violated. Ammachi

is not on the up and up. Instead of taking on the appropriate Dharma herself and

asking us to either stop, or marry or asking Kamal to leave, she allowed him to

continue and condoned his behavior. I am not sure what this means spiritually,

but I know this is not of God.

 

I tell you my whole life was torn apart, I have been very ill physically and I

was harmed by all of this karmically, Kamal is fine and working with

Entrepreneurs, Venture Capitalists and something called A-View. Ammachi does not

treat all people with care, fair or respect. This is not the first time

something like this has happened.

 

 

 

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Stacee Kramer <stacee.kramer

Ammachi

Sun, January 3, 2010 9:14:03 AM

appropriate teachings in Bramacharia - Kamal Bijlani

 

" Besides, you still haven't touched on the bramachari's responsibility in all

this, as I've always said " The org is always right " , no wonder no one learns,

because there's no mistakes to begin with. "

 

Tom this is ultimately how this was handled, Ammachi et al, try to sweep all

inconveniences under the rug for no one to see...and you are right no one learns

either. " My teacher Babaji, would have asked for marriageimmediately, he would

have wasted no time whatso ever, he would not have judged, he would have not

given time for all the feelies, just firmly and lovingly moved it clearly along!

 

The approriate protocal around Bramacharia is the important matter that I tried

to clear myself when I first asked Ammachi if it was OK to pursue the friendship

with Kamal. My asking was such " I know he is a Bramachari, what is OK around

this? " Ammachi does not teach outside of the box, she just lets us do what we

want then she makes judgments about it and tries to see if the whole situation

will serve her further interests. As far as I know he never spoke to her about

it at all. He just acted on his feelings and spent as much time as he wanted

exploring and enjoying his " feelings " , as he told me, he wanted to share

" feelings " everything was OK because we were sharing " feelings " . My impression

is that Ammachi chose not to use the appropriate protocol of teaching either one

of us, either she is too busy or truly does not care. She should have asked him

if wanted to have a relationship, which is OK for humans to want. Then she

should have politely asked

him to either leave his post at Amritapuri serving the Swami's or India until he

knew what he wanted to choose, but she let him travel with her and stay In India

for a year while he was trying to make up his mind when to leave. Sadly he did

not have enough support in his life at all to take on this new challenge the

right way, as he hid from everyone his true intentions. I tried to be the

foundation and support to help him cross this bridge. I asked him to wear

different clothing while be was not celibate so that others would know he was

making a change in his life. The swamis, once they new I think came in with all

the amma teachings that we must have " detachment " , or that " relationships "

aren't necessary or who knows what. I tell you this man weeped with me more than

once when he felt love between us, he did need love and was a very sweet and

loving affectionate man. If he had trusted me he would have come into a

beautiful Jewish  and mixed faith

family, my brothers wife is Indonesian and we have many interfaith and

intercultural marriages in our family. We have a very loving family all the way

around. I tried to teach love to him and to explain that we should embrace his

life and friends fully in love even if they are angry and afraid that he might

be leaving. They were angry and afraid and they did not want him to leave their

close net of tour travelers. I then tried to explain how wonderul things are

in northern California and at the MA center and that he would have truly found a

spiritual home for himself living the best of both worlds.

 

 

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