Guest guest Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 " Besides, you still haven't touched on the bramachari's responsibility in all this, as I've always said " The org is always right " , no wonder no one learns, because there's no mistakes to begin with. " Tom this is ultimately how this was handled, Ammachi et al, try to sweep all inconveniences under the rug for no one to see...and you are right no one learns either. " My teacher Babaji, would have asked for marriageimmediately, he would have wasted no time whatso ever, he would not have judged, he would have not given time for all the feelies, just firmly and lovingly moved it clearly along! The approriate protocal around Bramacharia is the important matter that I tried to clear myself when I first asked Ammachi if it was OK to pursue the friendship with Kamal. My asking was such " I know he is a Bramachari, what is OK around this? " Ammachi does not teach outside of the box, she just lets us do what we want then she makes judgments about it and tries to see if the whole situation will serve her further interests. As far as I know he never spoke to her about it at all. He just acted on his feelings and spent as much time as he wanted exploring and enjoying his " feelings " , as he told me, he wanted to share " feelings " everything was OK because we were sharing " feelings " . My impression is that Ammachi chose not to use the appropriate protocol of teaching either one of us, either she is too busy or truly does not care. She should have asked him if wanted to have a relationship, which is OK for humans to want. Then she should have politely asked him to either leave his post at Amritapuri serving the Swami's or India until he knew what he wanted to choose, but she let him travel with her and stay In India for a year while he was trying to make up his mind when to leave. Sadly he did not have enough support in his life at all to take on this new challenge the right way, as he hid from everyone his true intentions. I tried to be the foundation and support to help him cross this bridge. I asked him to wear different clothing while be was not celibate so that others would know he was making a change in his life. The swamis, once they new I think came in with all the amma teachings that we must have " detachment " , or that " relationships " aren't necessary or who knows what. I tell you this man weeped with me more than once when he felt love between us, he did need love and was a very sweet and loving affectionate man. If he had trusted me he would have come into a beautiful Jewish and mixed faith family, my brothers wife is Indonesian and we have many interfaith and intercultural marriages in our family. We have a very loving family all the way around. I tried to teach love to him and to explain that we should embrace his life and friends fully in love even if they are angry and afraid that he might be leaving. They were angry and afraid and they did not want him to leave their close net of tour travelers. I then tried to explain how wonderul things are in northern California and at the MA center and that he would have truly found a spiritual home for himself living the best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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