Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 dear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow(tues,dec.23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50 percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to truly share with the native's , AMMAs compassion and not ours.we will take pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so much and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved AMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba _______________ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take dead/killed animals- turkeys for eating. Aniamals eat animals! right? See the following video. Spirituality and cruely will not go together. They are in different directions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum Namah Shivayah! Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote: temba spirits <tembaspirits Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children " my family. " <ammachi > Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:58 PM dear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50 percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to truly share with the native's , AMMAs compassion and not ours.we will take pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so much and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved AMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 127032870/ direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs darling children.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you recall ,at the bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling short in anyway.i am but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a person trying to give his all. i will try my best to do better next time.please have a great day and thankyou once again for correcting me so that i can become more effective in serving. you know beloved,in the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo was considered a great teacher.the Lakota used every part of the Buffalo.nothing got wasted.they even ate the meat.it was the love behind the situation that made it so beautiful.the pygmys of the congo in africa at a lot of meat and lived in perfect peace for thousands of years until the invasion of their sacred culture. your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if you were tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should not the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle? what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is so aggresive?a self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still eating meat.the meat that they eat is just more sublte.you cannot see it with the human eye,but it comes out in the way they treat others. Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HER while She was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful. i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to exspensive.i tried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from the university but they would not give it to us.people are starving on this reservation .should they not eat because they dont have access to other food? please forgive us. Ammachi: ksvas97: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34 -0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take dead/killed animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals! right?See the following video.Spirituality and cruely will not go together. They are in different directions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum Namah Shivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits <tembaspirits Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children " my family. " <ammachi >Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50 percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to truly share with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will take pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so much and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved AMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 127032870/ direct/01/[Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_speed_122008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 and beloved would you be so kind to maybe consider working with me to bring healthier foods to the poor people of this culure.please call me if you would like to .i don't have many skills,but if we work togther we can make AMMA pleased.641-233-8255 love you Ammachi: ksvas97: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34 -0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take dead/killed animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals! right?See the following video.Spirituality and cruely will not go together. They are in different directions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum Namah Shivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits <tembaspirits Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children " my family. " <ammachi >Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50 percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to truly share with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will take pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so much and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved AMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 127032870/ direct/01/[Non-text portions of this message have been removed][Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12200\ 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 God Bless you, Temba, for feeding the hungry ! God Bless you, Temba, for doing your best ! Amma will take care of the rest ! Amma Bless, amarnath Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote: > > > thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs darling children.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you recall ,at the bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling short in anyway.i am but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a person trying to give his all. > i will try my best to do better next time.please have a great day and thankyou once again for correcting me so that i can become more effective in serving. > > you know beloved,in the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo was considered a great teacher.the Lakota used every part of the Buffalo.nothing got wasted.they even ate the meat.it was the love behind the situation that made it so beautiful.the pygmys of the congo in africa at a lot of meat and lived in perfect peace for thousands of years until the invasion of their sacred culture. > > your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if you were tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should not the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle? > > what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is so aggresive?a self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still eating meat.the meat that they eat is just more sublte.you cannot see it with the human eye,but it comes out in the way they treat others. > > Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HER while She was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful. > > i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to exspensive.i tried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from the university but they would not give it to us.people are starving on this reservation .should they not eat because they dont have access to other food? > > please forgive us. > > > Ammachi: ksvas97: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34 -0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children > > > > LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take dead/killed animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals! right?See the following video.Spirituality and cruely will not go together. They are in different directions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum Namah Shivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits <tembaspirits Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children " my family. " <ammachi >Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50 percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to truly share with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will take pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so much and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved AMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 127032870/ direct/01/[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 Dear Temba Spirits, >>your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if you were tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should not the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?<< Please follow your traditions and culture.Even if god gives in abundance Vegetables,Fruits,Nuts,Dried Fruits,Lentils,Rice,Wheat,Corn,Barley.....all known Vegetarian or Vegan products,i beg you eat flesh of beef,pork,chicken,lamb,goat....as this your culture,that your forefathers/foremothers taught you.More than that,the population of animal kingdom will overtake population of humans..i would rather have my species around,instead of a tiger,lion,boa constrictor.... And you are absolutely right in continuing to do so.Regardless whether Amma eats or ate or whether Christ ate or not.Listen to your parents,elders,and your pitrus.....be happy.Merry Christmas. sb Shri Amma Sharanam Mama Shri Hari Sharanam Mama Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya sb Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote: > > > thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs darling children.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you recall ,at the bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling short in anyway.i am but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a person trying to give his all. > i will try my best to do better next time.please have a great day and thankyou once again for correcting me so that i can become more effective in serving. > > you know beloved,in the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo was considered a great teacher.the Lakota used every part of the Buffalo.nothing got wasted.they even ate the meat.it was the love behind the situation that made it so beautiful.the pygmys of the congo in africa at a lot of meat and lived in perfect peace for thousands of years until the invasion of their sacred culture. > > your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if you were tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should not the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle? > > what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is so aggresive?a self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still eating meat.the meat that they eat is just more sublte.you cannot see it with the human eye,but it comes out in the way they treat others. > > Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HER while She was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful. > > i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to exspensive.i tried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from the university but they would not give it to us.people are starving on this reservation .should they not eat because they dont have access to other food? > > please forgive us. > > > Ammachi: ksvas97: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34 -0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children > > > > LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take dead/killed animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals! right?See the following video.Spirituality and cruely will not go together. They are in different directions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum Namah Shivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits <tembaspirits Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children " my family. " <ammachi >Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50 percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to truly share with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will take pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so much and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved AMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 127032870/ direct/01/[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you are my beloved sibling as well. Ammachi: sureshbalaraman: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:23:08 +0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children Dear Temba Spirits,>>your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if youwere tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should notthe vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?<<Please follow your traditions and culture.Even if god gives inabundance Vegetables,Fruits,Nuts,DriedFruits,Lentils,Rice,Wheat,Corn,Barley.....all known Vegetarian orVegan products,i beg you eat flesh ofbeef,pork,chicken,lamb,goat....as this your culture,that yourforefathers/foremothers taught you.More than that,the population ofanimal kingdom will overtake population of humans..i would rather havemy species around,instead of a tiger,lion,boa constrictor.... :)And you are absolutely right in continuing to do so.Regardless whetherAmma eats or ate or whether Christ ate or not.Listen to yourparents,elders,and your pitrus.....be happy.Merry Christmas.sbShri Amma Sharanam Mama Shri Hari Sharanam MamaOm Na Ma Shi Va Ya sbAmmachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:>> > thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs darlingchildren.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you recall ,atthe bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling short inanyway.i am but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a persontrying to give his all.> i will try my best to do better next time.please have a great dayand thankyou once again for correcting me so that i can become moreeffective in serving.> > you know beloved,in the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo wasconsidered a great teacher.the Lakota used every part of theBuffalo.nothing got wasted.they even ate the meat.it was the lovebehind the situation that made it so beautiful.the pygmys of the congoin africa at a lot of meat and lived in perfect peace for thousands ofyears until the invasion of their sacred culture.> > your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was ifyou were tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.shouldnot the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?> > what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is soaggresive?a self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still eatingmeat.the meat that they eat is just more sublte.you cannot see it withthe human eye,but it comes out in the way they treat others.> > Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HERwhile She was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful.> > i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to exspensive.itried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from the universitybut they would not give it to us.people are starving on thisreservation .should they not eat because they dont have access toother food?> > please forgive us.> > > > > > > > > > Ammachi: ksvas97: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34-0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children> > > > LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you takedead/killed animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals!right?See the following video.Spirituality and cruely will not gotogether. They are in different directions.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum NamahShivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits<tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits<tembaspiritsSubject: Christmas with AMMAs Lakotachildren " my family. " <ammachi >Monday,December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children ofAMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine RidgeReservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota nativeAmerican children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffedanimals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters andother gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents weredonated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hourdrive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind toremember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we mayhave a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the onlydoer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for usthat we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us byallowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to trulyshare with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will takepictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou somuch and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our belovedAMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ __________________ _________ _________ _Life on your PC is safer, easier, andmore enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/127032870/ direct/01/[Non-text portions of this message have beenremoved] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you are my beloved sibling as well.<< Temba Spirits, I am compassionate.What goes between peoples ears,i have no control over it ie your brain & thought process.The little that i know,Native American traditions,Mayan Civilisations etc ,are similiar if not identical to practices of ancient Bharathians aka Indians today.As to exactly where your tribe fits,is a veritable challenge to peg it,i suggest when you have time available after your stupendous helping work in your community in charities,do spend reading about ancient indians. For 800 years of Islamic terrorism plus 200 years of christian terrorism...despite such coercive evil forces...our forefathers/foremothers survived,only becoz they reciprocated love,thru living example.Ammachi is an embodiment of love.Love her,she will guide miraculously,is my simple suggestion,which i think ,you already are doing. Living in harmony with nature and natural forces,is the bedrock of Sanathana Dharma. Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !! Shri Hari Sharanam Mama !! Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya !! sb Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote: > > > all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you are my beloved sibling as well. > > Ammachi: sureshbalaraman: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:23:08 +0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children > > > > Dear Temba Spirits,>>your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if youwere tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should notthe vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?<<Please follow your traditions and culture.Even if god gives inabundance Vegetables,Fruits,Nuts,DriedFruits,Lentils,Rice,Wheat,Corn,Barley.....all known Vegetarian orVegan products,i beg you eat flesh ofbeef,pork,chicken,lamb,goat....as this your culture,that yourforefathers/foremothers taught you.More than that,the population ofanimal kingdom will overtake population of humans..i would rather havemy species around,instead of a tiger,lion,boa constrictor.... :)And you are absolutely right in continuing to do so.Regardless whetherAmma eats or ate or whether Christ ate or not.Listen to yourparents,elders,and your pitrus.....be happy.Merry Christmas.sbShri Amma Sharanam Mama Shri Hari Sharanam MamaOm Na Ma Shi Va Ya sb--- In Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits@> wrote:>> > thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs darlingchildren.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you recall ,atthe bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling short inanyway.i am but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a persontrying to give his all.> i will try my best to do better next time.please have a great dayand thankyou once again for correcting me so that i can become moreeffective in serving.> > you know beloved,in the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo wasconsidered a great teacher.the Lakota used every part of theBuffalo.nothing got wasted.they even ate the meat.it was the lovebehind the situation that made it so beautiful.the pygmys of the congoin africa at a lot of meat and lived in perfect peace for thousands ofyears until the invasion of their sacred culture.> > your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was ifyou were tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.shouldnot the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?> > what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is soaggresive?a self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still eatingmeat.the meat that they eat is just more sublte.you cannot see it withthe human eye,but it comes out in the way they treat others.> > Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HERwhile She was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful.> > i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to exspensive.itried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from the universitybut they would not give it to us.people are starving on thisreservation .should they not eat because they dont have access toother food?> > please forgive us.> > > > > > > > > > Ammachi@: ksvas97@: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34-0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children> > > > LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you takedead/killed animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals!right?See the following video.Spirituality and cruely will not gotogether. They are in different directions.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum NamahShivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits<tembaspirits@> wrote:temba spirits<tembaspirits@> Christmas with AMMAs Lakotachildren " my family. " <ammachi >Date: Monday,December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children ofAMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine RidgeReservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota nativeAmerican children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffedanimals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters andother gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents weredonated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hourdrive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind toremember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we mayhave a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the onlydoer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for usthat we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us byallowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to trulyshare with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will takepictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou somuch and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our belovedAMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ __________________ _________ _________ _Life on your PC is safer, easier, andmore enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/127032870/ direct/01/[Non-text portions of this message have beenremoved] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Aum Namah Shivaya, I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY familiar with their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please visit www.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened by all the caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heart wrenching that someone it trying to do something GOOD and he gets ripped apart. Think about it, he is sacrificing his TIME and much EFFORT to take many things to the reservation and all many of you could do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are any of us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge of this? All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by M.A. Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is best spent in HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the best food or meat to take to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If more people would join in and donate to them, that would be the best way to serve as Amma always asks us to do. Ask yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayer is that we spend some time each day. So take some time today to go thru your closets and see if you have clothing you can send. Or get involved in your local community if you cannot send it off. There are people in need all over our own country. Visit a senior center and uplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to visit this holiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love. It just saddens me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and a blessed heart gets shredded for his very thoughtful and compassionate actions. What have each of you done that comes even close to something SO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a generous endeavor would be what I would expect in this group. And if you don't like what he took, you have a delete key. That would have been the most respectful if you did not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how wrong he was. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to carry on about it. What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should be the ONLY question you should care about deeply. What am I doing to help someone today? Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I do something to uplift someone? What can I personally do to make our world a better place? Let's please join together in Amma's prayers and message with our own actions. How can we love others if we cannot show love just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE one another. in Her divine service, Adriane -- In Ammachi , " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman wrote: > > >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's > hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar > compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim > to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you > are my beloved sibling as well.<< > > Temba Spirits, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Aum Namah Shivaya, My dream is that Satsangs across the country will each adopt Pine Ridge on their own and send things, donations, clothing. I do not want to stop until we know each of them has a home free of deadly black rot, a warm coat and a heater for their brutal winters. I am hopeful that Satsangs across the country and individuals will get involved with the very poorest section of the United States. It is not currently an M.A. Center project per se. We hope in time they will get involved on some level. If you have questions feel free to call me at 636-928-3554 and I know Temba has also posted his number before as well. Or you can email me at ammastlouis in Her service, adriane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Namaste dear Adriane and group members. . .please know the service that Temba, yourself, and other Amma children are seen as lights and hearts of Amma. . . Since Thanksgiving we have a couple of trolls enter the group. . .no matter what the subject they pick a controversy. . .The topic is irrelevant. . . and they chose to present strife rather than join in the love and spirit of Amma. . .Also it looks like there is more than one. . but please remember a person can sign into the group under different names. . .Such as the BPL may be another trollie that left before Thanksgiving. . .Look at the writing style and the legalism?. . . . I guess it is up to each person to reply to the trolls as they see fit???? The group members of late have formed a loving and sacred space. . and i am most grateful to them and look forward to reading their contributions. . . Adriane i did asked the monitor to access these individuals and Keval felt it is best to not feed the trolls. . He made the point. . . if they are banned from the group. . . all they have to do is sign in with a new name?.. . .He has a practical point there. . .He thought they were fundamentalist from India. . .but i believe sb is from the Detroit area????and the kolluir once lived in austin. . .So maybe they are just homesick and trying to recreate something in this group that aligns them with their sense of belongingness???. . . .It must be frustrating for the Amma group overall does not identify as Christian although many honor Christ, so all the legalistic punches just roll off most of us. . . We are AMMA's Children. . . The same with the Native American issue with Tom/PaleBlueLight(?). . . This whole issue about TURKEYS. . .and how one of the Thanksgiving traditions is: the Native Americans gave food and Wild Turkies for the first thanksgiving because the new immigrants where wintering so hard . . . near starvation. . .Now 500 plus years later. . .Amma's children are giving the Native American's turkeys because they are near starvation. . .To complain about Temba and his service to the Native Ameican " ladeled in legalism " is just plain small. . . . . Amma grew up in a family where her Father was fisherman. . .and many times when Amma was a child fish where given to the villagers that where needy and hungry. . .different people different cultures. . .sometimes there is need for situational ethics and action. . . The legalism and condemnation is just screens to reveal some other kind of darker motion going on here. . . .It is not about the issues. . .but rather the egoic that lives and sustains it's life by pointing fingers. . . I really have considered dropping the group because of these kinds of ongoing attacks. . .but that is what happened in last couple of years when on individual got a foot hold and everyone just left. . .so for me the question is if we allow the ongoing attacks then how are we to be in relationship with it. . .For me, i think it is important to call it for what it is, and then to not feed it. . . All of it makes my heart sad. . .for i am in a situation where this group is satsang and it is so wonderful when the group is able to come together in a way that is honoring and breathing of dear Holy Amma. . . For my self it is time for these trolls to not be fed anymore. . . they have feasted this Christmas on Amma/Christ and her children. . . . . .We are seeing the egoic here. . And it seems that each time we respond to it it just gives them more goodies??????. . . . . I really appreciate Keval and truly honor the monitoring. . .but wish he would ban these individuals. . .as many times at it takes, , , We attempt this group on the web and there are going to be these kind of cyberapaths, , and the attempt to follow Amma in this group does not mean that we cannot have healthy boundaries from this kind of ongoing cyberscreed. . . Also, I cannot help but see the irony of SB and Kolluri. . . In the group Sb set up there is notation that kolluri was sending in pornography and was being asked to be removed from the group. . .but these same two (1?) individual/s come into this group and play the judgment and condemnation card with people like you and dear Temba as well as every other group member that displays love and gentleness. . .Lots of shadow stuff going on here with these members. . . Lets call it for what it is. . .it is not about the members in this group. . .but something that is working through these individuals. . . . Just my two cents worth and a heart request to the group members. . . May we continue to bring light and love to this group and turn the rest over to the loving hands and heart of our dear Mother. . . Aum Amriteswaryai Namaha love marci On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:32 AM, n2amma <a1driane wrote: > Aum Namah Shivaya, > I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY familiar > with their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please visit > www.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened by > all the caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heart > wrenching that someone it trying to do something GOOD and he gets > ripped apart. Think about it, he is sacrificing his TIME and much > EFFORT to take many things to the reservation and all many of you > could do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are any > of us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge of > this? > > All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by M.A. > Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is best > spent in HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the best > food or meat to take to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If more > people would join in and donate to them, that would be the best way to > serve as Amma always asks us to do. > > Ask yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayer > is that we spend some time each day. So take some time today to go > thru your closets and see if you have clothing you can send. Or get > involved in your local community if you cannot send it off. There are > people in need all over our own country. Visit a senior center and > uplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to visit this > holiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love. > > It just saddens me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and a > blessed heart gets shredded for his very thoughtful and compassionate > actions. What have each of you done that comes even close to something > SO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a generous endeavor would be > what I would expect in this group. And if you don't like what he took, > you have a delete key. That would have been the most respectful if you > did not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how wrong he > was. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to carry > on about it. > > What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should be > the ONLY question you should care about deeply. What am I doing to > help someone today? Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I do > something to uplift someone? What can I personally do to make our > world a better place? Let's please join together in Amma's prayers and > message with our own actions. How can we love others if we cannot show > love just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE one another. > > in Her divine service, > Adriane > > -- In Ammachi <Ammachi%40>, > " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman > > wrote: > > > > >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's > > hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar > > compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim > > to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you > > are my beloved sibling as well.<< > > > > Temba Spirits, > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Whoa Whoa Adraine,get a hold of yourself.I have not torn Temba's heart.Its all in your mind.If Amma says,be vegetarian,i wanna be vegetarian-period.If i cannot be vegetarian,then i will ask Amma herself to help me becoming one.Isn't she our Sathguru? For generations together people have been indulging in acts,which makes them obviously happy.You do what makes you happy.But when you come into the fold of Sathguru like Amma,then Amma devotees are difinitely going to tell,what Amma wants.If you don't like it,at least if one keeps trying one can acheive.Otherwise why seek people like Amma.After all Christ ate meat as per some Christians.I do not know whether he ate or not,truthfully.Becoz i do not remember my past life with Christ or Krishna or Rama or Yahway or Allah.But if you like helping people, do it.I never tore your heart or hurt you,as you seem to falsely allege.Don't i have a right to protect myself.I am no Rama,to show my other cheek,when one of you slap me!!Sorry. Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !! sb Ammachi , " n2amma " <a1driane wrote: > > Aum Namah Shivaya, > I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY familiar > with their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please visit > www.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened by > all the caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heart > wrenching that someone it trying to do something GOOD and he gets > ripped apart. Think about it, he is sacrificing his TIME and much > EFFORT to take many things to the reservation and all many of you > could do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are any > of us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge of > this? > > All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by M.A. > Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is best > spent in HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the best > food or meat to take to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If more > people would join in and donate to them, that would be the best way to > serve as Amma always asks us to do. > > Ask yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayer > is that we spend some time each day. So take some time today to go > thru your closets and see if you have clothing you can send. Or get > involved in your local community if you cannot send it off. There are > people in need all over our own country. Visit a senior center and > uplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to visit this > holiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love. > > It just saddens me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and a > blessed heart gets shredded for his very thoughtful and compassionate > actions. What have each of you done that comes even close to something > SO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a generous endeavor would be > what I would expect in this group. And if you don't like what he took, > you have a delete key. That would have been the most respectful if you > did not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how wrong he > was. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to carry > on about it. > > What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should be > the ONLY question you should care about deeply. What am I doing to > help someone today? Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I do > something to uplift someone? What can I personally do to make our > world a better place? Let's please join together in Amma's prayers and > message with our own actions. How can we love others if we cannot show > love just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE one another. > > > in Her divine service, > Adriane > > > > -- In Ammachi , " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman@> > wrote: > > > > >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's > > hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar > > compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim > > to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you > > are my beloved sibling as well.<< > > > > Temba Spirits, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 <moderator's note> This group is not an official organ of the Amma organization. It exists simply as a forum for devotees of Amma and has never been established or approved by the MA Center. </moderator's note> I agree with SB here. Are you not asking for help on this AMMA LIST? Would the moderators tolerate such repeated soliciting if it hadn't already been approved by swami-ji, even just the soliciting of funds for the bus trip for these people? Let someone bring up another seva, AND ignore Amma's teaching on it. Oh, but I'm sure with everyone's current attitude you don't have to follow Amma's teachings in your sewas, just do what you want and as long as the majority approves, you're ok. If one is not going to follow Amma's wishes in their sevas mentioned here, no matter the official status, then the moderator should prevent messages soliciting help for them. Ammachi , " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman wrote: > Whoa Whoa Adraine,get a hold of yourself.I have not torn Temba's > heart.Its all in your mind.If Amma says,be vegetarian,i wanna be > vegetarian-period.If i cannot be vegetarian,then i will ask Amma > herself to help me becoming one.Isn't she our Sathguru? > > For generations together people have been indulging in acts,which > makes them obviously happy.You do what makes you happy.But when you > come into the fold of Sathguru like Amma,then Amma devotees are > difinitely going to tell,what Amma wants.If you don't like it,at > least if one keeps trying one can acheive.Otherwise why seek people > like Amma.After all Christ ate meat as per some Christians.I do not > know whether he ate or not,truthfully.Becoz i do not remember my past > life with Christ or Krishna or Rama or Yahway or Allah.But if you > like helping people, do it.I never tore your heart or hurt you,as you > seem to falsely allege.Don't i have a right to protect myself.I am no > Rama,to show my other cheek,when one of you slap me!!Sorry. > > Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !! > > sb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 THIS DREAM IS COMING TO PASS RIGHT iN FRONT OF US.STEVIE WONDER COULD SEE THAT AMMAs RESOLVE IS IN THIS.READ AMMAS DREAM BELOVED FAMILY.THOSE THAT SEE THIS DREAM that our beloved adriane has expressed have tapped into the WORLD OF AMMAs DREAM. What adrianne has expressed is the ESSENCE OF what this is all about.AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMMA,AMM\ A,AMMA............. stay oh FIRE beloved adriane!641-233-8255... i will be sending the pictures today Ammachi: a1driane: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:44:30 +0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children Aum Namah Shivaya,My dream is that Satsangs across the country will each adopt PineRidge on their own and send things, donations, clothing. I do not wantto stop until we know each of them has a home free of deadly blackrot, a warm coat and a heater for their brutal winters. I am hopefulthat Satsangs across the country and individuals will get involvedwith the very poorest section of the United States. It is notcurrently an M.A. Center project per se. We hope in time they will getinvolved on some level. If you have questions feel free to call me at 636-928-3554 and I knowTemba has also posted his number before as well. Or you can email meat ammastlouis in Her service,adriane _______________ It’s the same Hotmail®. If by “same” you mean up to 70% faster. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_12200\ 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 somehow as long as we stand in the love for all involved the disagreeable comments bring forth more grace.SHE IS SO WONDERFUL. Ammachi: a1driane: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:32:27 +0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children Aum Namah Shivaya,I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY familiarwith their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please visitwww.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened byall the caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heartwrenching that someone it trying to do something GOOD and he getsripped apart. Think about it, he is sacrificing his TIME and muchEFFORT to take many things to the reservation and all many of youcould do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are anyof us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge ofthis?All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by M.A.Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is bestspent in HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the bestfood or meat to take to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If morepeople would join in and donate to them, that would be the best way toserve as Amma always asks us to do. Ask yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayeris that we spend some time each day. So take some time today to gothru your closets and see if you have clothing you can send. Or getinvolved in your local community if you cannot send it off. There arepeople in need all over our own country. Visit a senior center anduplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to visit thisholiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love. It just saddens me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and ablessed heart gets shredded for his very thoughtful and compassionateactions. What have each of you done that comes even close to somethingSO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a generous endeavor would bewhat I would expect in this group. And if you don't like what he took,you have a delete key. That would have been the most respectful if youdid not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how wrong hewas. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to carryon about it. What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should bethe ONLY question you should care about deeply. What am I doing tohelp someone today? Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I dosomething to uplift someone? What can I personally do to make ourworld a better place? Let's please join together in Amma's prayers andmessage with our own actions. How can we love others if we cannot showlove just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE one another.in Her divine service,Adriane-- In Ammachi , " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaramanwrote:>> >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's> hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar> compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim> to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you> are my beloved sibling as well.<<> > Temba Spirits,> _______________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_12\ 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 thankyou Ammachi: sureshbalaraman: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:09:54 +0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people'shearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure tharcompassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claimto know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.youare my beloved sibling as well.<<Temba Spirits,I am compassionate.What goes between peoples ears,i have no controlover it ie your brain & thought process.The little that i know,NativeAmerican traditions,Mayan Civilisations etc ,are similiar if notidentical to practices of ancient Bharathians aka Indians today.As toexactly where your tribe fits,is a veritable challenge to peg it,isuggest when you have time available after your stupendous helpingwork in your community in charities,do spend reading about ns.For 800 years of Islamic terrorism plus 200 years of christianterrorism...despite such coercive evil forces...ourforefathers/foremothers survived,only becoz they reciprocatedlove,thru living example.Ammachi is an embodiment of love.Love her,shewill guide miraculously,is my simple suggestion,which i think ,youalready are doing.Living in harmony with nature and natural forces,is the bedrock ofSanathana Dharma.Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!Shri Hari Sharanam Mama !!Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya !!sbAmmachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:>> > all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people'shearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure tharcompassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claimto know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.youare my beloved sibling as well.> > Ammachi: sureshbalaraman: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:23:08+0000Subject: Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children> > > > Dear Temba Spirits,>>your response to me was that of a meat eaterbeloved.it was if youwere tearing into a peice of meat in yourresponse to me.should notthe vegan,or vegetarian be a moregentle?<<Please follow your traditions and culture.Even if god givesinabundanceVegetables,Fruits,Nuts,DriedFruits,Lentils,Rice,Wheat,Corn,Barle\ y.....allknown Vegetarian orVegan products,i beg you eat fleshofbeef,pork,chicken,lamb,goat....as this your culture,thatyourforefathers/foremothers taught you.More than that,the populationofanimal kingdom will overtake population of humans..i would ratherhavemy species around,instead of a tiger,lion,boa constrictor....:)And you are absolutely right in continuing to do so.RegardlesswhetherAmma eats or ate or whether Christ ate or not.Listen toyourparents,elders,and your pitrus.....be happy.Merry Christmas.sbShriAmma Sharanam Mama Shri Hari Sharanam MamaOm Na Ma Shi Va Ya sb--- InAmmachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits@> wrote:>> >thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAsdarlingchildren.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if yourecall ,atthe bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in fallingshort inanyway.i am but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just apersontrying to give his all.> i will try my best to do better nexttime.please have a great dayand thankyou once again for correcting meso that i can become moreeffective in serving.> > you know beloved,inthe Lakota tradition, the Buffalo wasconsidered a great teacher.theLakota used every part of theBuffalo.nothing got wasted.they even atethe meat.it was the lovebehind the situation that made it sobeautiful.the pygmys of the congoin africa at a lot of meat and livedin perfect peace for thousands ofyears until the invasion of theirsacred culture.> > your response to me was that of a meat eaterbeloved.it was ifyou were tearing into a peice of meat in yourresponse to me.shouldnot the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?> >what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind issoaggresive?a self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is stilleatingmeat.the meat that they eat is just more sublte.you cannot seeit withthe human eye,but it comes out in the way they treat others.> >Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HERwhileShe was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful.>> i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were toexspensive.itried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food fromthe universitybut they would not give it to us.people are starving onthisreservation .should they not eat because they dont have accesstoother food?> > please forgive us.> > > > > > > > > > To: Ammachi@:ksvas97@: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34-0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children> > > > LOL! You say pary for ALLbeings but, at the same time you takedead/killed animals- turkeys foreating.Aniamals eat animals!right?See the following video.Spiritualityand cruely will not gotogether. They are in differentdirections.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=relatedOu\ m NamahShivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, tembaspirits<tembaspirits@> wrote:tembaspirits<tembaspirits@> Christmas with AMMAsLakotachildren " my family. " <ammachi >Date:Monday,December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darlingchildren ofAMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to PineRidgeReservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved LakotanativeAmerican children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys andstuffedanimals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heatersandother gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presentsweredonated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply thegas.50percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelvehourdrive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kindtoremember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that wemayhave a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is theonlydoer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please prayfor usthat we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving usbyallowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able totrulyshare with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we willtakepictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyousomuch and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May ourbelovedAMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ ___________________________ _________ _________ _Life on your PC is safer,easier, andmore enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/ direct/01/[Non-text portions of this messagehave beenremoved] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2008 Report Share Posted December 28, 2008 Hear, hear! And i would add that Amma would not be in favor of attacking people in the name of vegetarianism or anything else that she teaches, least of all in her name. Max >I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY familiar >with their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please visit >www.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened by >all the caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heart >wrenching that someone it trying to do something GOOD and he gets >ripped apart. Think about it, he is sacrificing his TIME and much >EFFORT to take many things to the reservation and all many of you >could do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are any >of us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge of >this? > >All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by M.A. >Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is best >spent in HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the best >food or meat to take to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If more >people would join in and donate to them, that would be the best way to >serve as Amma always asks us to do. > >Ask yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayer >is that we spend some time each day. So take some time today to go >thru your closets and see if you have clothing you can send. Or get >involved in your local community if you cannot send it off. There are >people in need all over our own country. Visit a senior center and >uplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to visit this >holiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love. > >It just saddens me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and a >blessed heart gets shredded for his very thoughtful and compassionate >actions. What have each of you done that comes even close to something >SO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a generous endeavor would be >what I would expect in this group. And if you don't like what he took, >you have a delete key. That would have been the most respectful if you >did not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how wrong he >was. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to carry >on about it. > >What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should be >the ONLY question you should care about deeply. What am I doing to >help someone today? Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I do >something to uplift someone? What can I personally do to make our >world a better place? Let's please join together in Amma's prayers and >message with our own actions. How can we love others if we cannot show >love just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE one another. > >in Her divine service, >Adriane > >-- In <Ammachi%40>Ammachi , > " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman >wrote: >> >> >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's >> hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar >> compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim >> to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you >> are my beloved sibling as well.<< >> >> Temba Spirits, >> > > -- Max Dashu Suppressed Histories Archives Real Women, Global Vision http://www.suppressedhistories.net New poster: Female Icons http://www.suppressedhistories.net/femaleicons.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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