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dear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow(tues,dec.23rd) we

will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs

beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys

and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and

other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were donated

and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50 percent of the

items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour drive and the forecast

looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember us in your prayers as

you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey and that we may

remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to

visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is

serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to

truly share with the native's , AMMAs compassion and not ours.we will take

pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so much and

forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved AMMA be

pleased.namah shivaya, temba

 

 

 

 

 

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LOL!

 

You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take dead/killed animals-

turkeys for eating.

Aniamals eat animals! right?

See the following video.

Spirituality and cruely will not go together. They are in different directions.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related

 

Oum Namah Shivayah!

Srinivas K

 

 

 

--- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:

 

temba spirits <tembaspirits

Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

" my family. " <ammachi >

Monday, December 22, 2008, 9:58 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we

will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs

beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys

and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and

other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were donated

and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50 percent of the

items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour drive and the forecast

looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember us in your prayers as

you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey and that we may

remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to

visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is

serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to truly

share with the native's , AMMAs

compassion and not ours.we will take pictures and we will do our best to smile

and have fun.thankyou so much and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway.

May our beloved AMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba

 

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thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs darling

children.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you recall ,at the bottom

of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling short in anyway.i am but a peice

of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a person trying to give his all.

i will try my best to do better next time.please have a great day and thankyou

once again for correcting me so that i can become more effective in serving.

 

you know beloved,in the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo was considered a great

teacher.the Lakota used every part of the Buffalo.nothing got wasted.they even

ate the meat.it was the love behind the situation that made it so beautiful.the

pygmys of the congo in africa at a lot of meat and lived in perfect peace for

thousands of years until the invasion of their sacred culture.

 

your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if you were

tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should not the vegan,or

vegetarian be a more gentle?

 

what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is so aggresive?a

self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still eating meat.the meat that they eat

is just more sublte.you cannot see it with the human eye,but it comes out in the

way they treat others.

 

Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HER while She was

homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful.

 

i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to exspensive.i tried my best

to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from the university but they would not give

it to us.people are starving on this reservation .should they not eat because

they dont have access to other food?

 

please forgive us.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ammachi: ksvas97: Mon, 22 Dec 2008

08:42:34 -0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

 

 

 

LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take dead/killed

animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals! right?See the following

video.Spirituality and cruely will not go together. They are in different

directions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum Namah

Shivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits

<tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits

<tembaspirits Christmas with AMMAs Lakota

children " my family. " <ammachi >Monday, December 22,

2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow(

tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend

Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two

truck loads of toys and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and

clothing,heaters and other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the

presents were donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the

gas.50 percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour

drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember

us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey

and that we may remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we

are going to visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize

that LOVE is serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are

able to truly share with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will

take pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so much and

forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved AMMA be

pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ _________ _________

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and beloved would you be so kind to maybe consider working with me to bring

healthier foods to the poor people of this culure.please call me if you would

like to .i don't have many skills,but if we work togther we can make AMMA

pleased.641-233-8255 love you

 

Ammachi: ksvas97: Mon, 22 Dec 2008

08:42:34 -0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

 

 

 

LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take dead/killed

animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals! right?See the following

video.Spirituality and cruely will not go together. They are in different

directions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum Namah

Shivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits

<tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits

<tembaspirits Christmas with AMMAs Lakota

children " my family. " <ammachi >Monday, December 22,

2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children of AMMA,tommorow(

tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge Reservation to spend

Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native American children.we are bringing two

truck loads of toys and stuffed animals for the children,winter blankets and

clothing,heaters and other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the

presents were donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the

gas.50 percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour

drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to remember

us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may have a safe journey

and that we may remember that AMMA is the only doer and that it is AMMA that we

are going to visit.Please pray for us that we may have the wisdom to realize

that LOVE is serving us by allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are

able to truly share with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will

take pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so much and

forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved AMMA be

pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ _________ _________

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God Bless you, Temba, for feeding the hungry !

God Bless you, Temba, for doing your best !

Amma will take care of the rest !

 

Amma Bless,

amarnath

 

Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:

>

>

> thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs darling

children.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you recall ,at

the bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling short in

anyway.i am but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a person

trying to give his all.

> i will try my best to do better next time.please have a great day

and thankyou once again for correcting me so that i can become more

effective in serving.

>

> you know beloved,in the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo was

considered a great teacher.the Lakota used every part of the

Buffalo.nothing got wasted.they even ate the meat.it was the love

behind the situation that made it so beautiful.the pygmys of the congo

in africa at a lot of meat and lived in perfect peace for thousands of

years until the invasion of their sacred culture.

>

> your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if

you were tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should

not the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?

>

> what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is so

aggresive?a self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still eating

meat.the meat that they eat is just more sublte.you cannot see it with

the human eye,but it comes out in the way they treat others.

>

> Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HER

while She was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful.

>

> i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to exspensive.i

tried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from the university

but they would not give it to us.people are starving on this

reservation .should they not eat because they dont have access to

other food?

>

> please forgive us.

>

>

>

Ammachi: ksvas97: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34

-0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

>

>

>

> LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take

dead/killed animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals!

right?See the following video.Spirituality and cruely will not go

together. They are in different directions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum Namah

Shivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits

<tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits

<tembaspirits Christmas with AMMAs Lakota

children " my family. " <ammachi >Monday,

December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children of

AMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge

Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native

American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffed

animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and

other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were

donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50

percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour

drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to

remember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may

have a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the only

doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for us

that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us by

allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to truly

share with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will take

pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so

much and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved

AMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ _________

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Dear Temba Spirits,

 

>>your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if you

were tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should not

the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?<<

 

Please follow your traditions and culture.Even if god gives in

abundance Vegetables,Fruits,Nuts,Dried

Fruits,Lentils,Rice,Wheat,Corn,Barley.....all known Vegetarian or

Vegan products,i beg you eat flesh of

beef,pork,chicken,lamb,goat....as this your culture,that your

forefathers/foremothers taught you.More than that,the population of

animal kingdom will overtake population of humans..i would rather have

my species around,instead of a tiger,lion,boa constrictor.... :)

 

And you are absolutely right in continuing to do so.Regardless whether

Amma eats or ate or whether Christ ate or not.Listen to your

parents,elders,and your pitrus.....be happy.Merry Christmas.

 

sb

 

Shri Amma Sharanam Mama

 

Shri Hari Sharanam Mama

 

Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya

 

sb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:

>

>

> thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs darling

children.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you recall ,at

the bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling short in

anyway.i am but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a person

trying to give his all.

> i will try my best to do better next time.please have a great day

and thankyou once again for correcting me so that i can become more

effective in serving.

>

> you know beloved,in the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo was

considered a great teacher.the Lakota used every part of the

Buffalo.nothing got wasted.they even ate the meat.it was the love

behind the situation that made it so beautiful.the pygmys of the congo

in africa at a lot of meat and lived in perfect peace for thousands of

years until the invasion of their sacred culture.

>

> your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was if

you were tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should

not the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?

>

> what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is so

aggresive?a self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still eating

meat.the meat that they eat is just more sublte.you cannot see it with

the human eye,but it comes out in the way they treat others.

>

> Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HER

while She was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful.

>

> i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to exspensive.i

tried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from the university

but they would not give it to us.people are starving on this

reservation .should they not eat because they dont have access to

other food?

>

> please forgive us.

>

>

>

Ammachi: ksvas97: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34

-0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

>

>

>

> LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you take

dead/killed animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals!

right?See the following video.Spirituality and cruely will not go

together. They are in different directions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related Oum Namah

Shivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba spirits

<tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits

<tembaspirits Christmas with AMMAs Lakota

children " my family. " <ammachi >Monday,

December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling children of

AMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine Ridge

Reservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota native

American children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and stuffed

animals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters and

other gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents were

donated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50

percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve hour

drive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind to

remember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we may

have a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the only

doer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for us

that we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us by

allowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to truly

share with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will take

pictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou so

much and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our beloved

AMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________ _________

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all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's hearts that you

are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar compassion is at the core

of your statements.and beloved do you claim to know who my ancestors are.i claim

all humanity as my relatives.you are my beloved sibling as well.

 

Ammachi: sureshbalaraman: Thu, 25 Dec 2008

16:23:08 +0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

 

 

 

Dear Temba Spirits,>>your response to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was

if youwere tearing into a peice of meat in your response to me.should notthe

vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?<<Please follow your traditions and

culture.Even if god gives inabundance

Vegetables,Fruits,Nuts,DriedFruits,Lentils,Rice,Wheat,Corn,Barley.....all known

Vegetarian orVegan products,i beg you eat flesh

ofbeef,pork,chicken,lamb,goat....as this your culture,that

yourforefathers/foremothers taught you.More than that,the population ofanimal

kingdom will overtake population of humans..i would rather havemy species

around,instead of a tiger,lion,boa constrictor.... :)And you are absolutely

right in continuing to do so.Regardless whetherAmma eats or ate or whether

Christ ate or not.Listen to yourparents,elders,and your pitrus.....be

happy.Merry Christmas.sbShri Amma Sharanam Mama Shri Hari Sharanam MamaOm Na Ma

Shi Va Ya sbAmmachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits

wrote:>> > thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs

darlingchildren.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you recall ,atthe

bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling short inanyway.i am but a

peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a persontrying to give his all.> i will

try my best to do better next time.please have a great dayand thankyou once

again for correcting me so that i can become moreeffective in serving.> > you

know beloved,in the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo wasconsidered a great

teacher.the Lakota used every part of theBuffalo.nothing got wasted.they even

ate the meat.it was the lovebehind the situation that made it so beautiful.the

pygmys of the congoin africa at a lot of meat and lived in perfect peace for

thousands ofyears until the invasion of their sacred culture.> > your response

to me was that of a meat eater beloved.it was ifyou were tearing into a peice of

meat in your response to me.shouldnot the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?>

> what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is soaggresive?a

self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still eatingmeat.the meat that they eat is

just more sublte.you cannot see it withthe human eye,but it comes out in the way

they treat others.> > Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it

to HERwhile She was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so

beauiful.> > i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to

exspensive.itried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from the

universitybut they would not give it to us.people are starving on

thisreservation .should they not eat because they dont have access toother

food?> > please forgive us.> > > > > > > > > > Ammachi: ksvas97:

Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34-0800Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota

children> > > > LOL! You say pary for ALL beings but, at the same time you

takedead/killed animals- turkeys for eating.Aniamals eat animals!right?See the

following video.Spirituality and cruely will not gotogether. They are in

different directions.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related

Oum NamahShivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba

spirits<tembaspirits wrote:temba spirits<tembaspiritsSubject:

Christmas with AMMAs Lakotachildren " my family. "

<ammachi >Monday,December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved

family and darling children ofAMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be

traveling to Pine RidgeReservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota

nativeAmerican children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and

stuffedanimals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters andother

gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents weredonated and we

raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the gas.50percent of the items are

brand new.the journey will be a twelve hourdrive and the forecast looks okay for

traveling. Please be so kind toremember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL

beings ,that we mayhave a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the

onlydoer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray for usthat

we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us byallowing us to

serve. Please pray for us that we are able to trulyshare with the native's ,

AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will takepictures and we will do our best to

smile and have fun.thankyou somuch and forgive me if i have fallen short in

anyway. May our belovedAMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________

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>>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's

hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar

compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim

to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you

are my beloved sibling as well.<<

 

Temba Spirits,

 

I am compassionate.What goes between peoples ears,i have no control

over it ie your brain & thought process.The little that i know,Native

American traditions,Mayan Civilisations etc ,are similiar if not

identical to practices of ancient Bharathians aka Indians today.As to

exactly where your tribe fits,is a veritable challenge to peg it,i

suggest when you have time available after your stupendous helping

work in your community in charities,do spend reading about ancient

indians.

 

For 800 years of Islamic terrorism plus 200 years of christian

terrorism...despite such coercive evil forces...our

forefathers/foremothers survived,only becoz they reciprocated

love,thru living example.Ammachi is an embodiment of love.Love her,she

will guide miraculously,is my simple suggestion,which i think ,you

already are doing.

 

Living in harmony with nature and natural forces,is the bedrock of

Sanathana Dharma.

 

Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!

 

Shri Hari Sharanam Mama !!

 

Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya !!

 

sb

 

 

 

 

 

Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:

>

>

> all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's

hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar

compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim

to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you

are my beloved sibling as well.

>

> Ammachi: sureshbalaraman: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:23:08

+0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

>

>

>

> Dear Temba Spirits,>>your response to me was that of a meat eater

beloved.it was if youwere tearing into a peice of meat in your

response to me.should notthe vegan,or vegetarian be a more

gentle?<<Please follow your traditions and culture.Even if god gives

inabundance

Vegetables,Fruits,Nuts,DriedFruits,Lentils,Rice,Wheat,Corn,Barley.....all

known Vegetarian orVegan products,i beg you eat flesh

ofbeef,pork,chicken,lamb,goat....as this your culture,that

yourforefathers/foremothers taught you.More than that,the population

ofanimal kingdom will overtake population of humans..i would rather

havemy species around,instead of a tiger,lion,boa constrictor....

:)And you are absolutely right in continuing to do so.Regardless

whetherAmma eats or ate or whether Christ ate or not.Listen to

yourparents,elders,and your pitrus.....be happy.Merry Christmas.sbShri

Amma Sharanam Mama Shri Hari Sharanam MamaOm Na Ma Shi Va Ya sb--- In

Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits@> wrote:>> >

thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of AMMAs

darlingchildren.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if you

recall ,atthe bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in falling

short inanyway.i am but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just a

persontrying to give his all.> i will try my best to do better next

time.please have a great dayand thankyou once again for correcting me

so that i can become moreeffective in serving.> > you know beloved,in

the Lakota tradition, the Buffalo wasconsidered a great teacher.the

Lakota used every part of theBuffalo.nothing got wasted.they even ate

the meat.it was the lovebehind the situation that made it so

beautiful.the pygmys of the congoin africa at a lot of meat and lived

in perfect peace for thousands ofyears until the invasion of their

sacred culture.> > your response to me was that of a meat eater

beloved.it was ifyou were tearing into a peice of meat in your

response to me.shouldnot the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?> >

what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind is

soaggresive?a self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is still

eatingmeat.the meat that they eat is just more sublte.you cannot see

it withthe human eye,but it comes out in the way they treat others.> >

Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to HERwhile

She was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful.>

> i tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were to

exspensive.itried my best to get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food from

the universitybut they would not give it to us.people are starving on

thisreservation .should they not eat because they dont have access

toother food?> > please forgive us.> > > > > > > > > > Ammachi@:

ksvas97@: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34-0800Re:

Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children> > > > LOL! You say pary for ALL

beings but, at the same time you takedead/killed animals- turkeys for

eating.Aniamals eat animals!right?See the following video.Spirituality

and cruely will not gotogether. They are in different

directions.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=related

Oum NamahShivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, temba

spirits<tembaspirits@> wrote:temba

spirits<tembaspirits@> Christmas with AMMAs

Lakotachildren " my family. " <ammachi >Date:

Monday,December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved family and darling

children ofAMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling to Pine

RidgeReservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved Lakota

nativeAmerican children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys and

stuffedanimals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heaters

andother gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presents

weredonated and we raised money to buy the turkeys and supply the

gas.50percent of the items are brand new.the journey will be a twelve

hourdrive and the forecast looks okay for traveling. Please be so kind

toremember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL beings ,that we

mayhave a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is the

onlydoer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please pray

for usthat we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving us

byallowing us to serve. Please pray for us that we are able to

trulyshare with the native's , AMMAscompassion and not ours.we will

takepictures and we will do our best to smile and have fun.thankyou

somuch and forgive me if i have fallen short in anyway. May our

belovedAMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________ _________

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Aum Namah Shivaya,

I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY familiar

with their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please visit

www.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened by

all the caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heart

wrenching that someone it trying to do something GOOD and he gets

ripped apart. Think about it, he is sacrificing his TIME and much

EFFORT to take many things to the reservation and all many of you

could do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are any

of us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge of

this?

 

All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by M.A.

Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is best

spent in HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the best

food or meat to take to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If more

people would join in and donate to them, that would be the best way to

serve as Amma always asks us to do.

 

Ask yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayer

is that we spend some time each day. So take some time today to go

thru your closets and see if you have clothing you can send. Or get

involved in your local community if you cannot send it off. There are

people in need all over our own country. Visit a senior center and

uplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to visit this

holiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love.

 

It just saddens me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and a

blessed heart gets shredded for his very thoughtful and compassionate

actions. What have each of you done that comes even close to something

SO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a generous endeavor would be

what I would expect in this group. And if you don't like what he took,

you have a delete key. That would have been the most respectful if you

did not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how wrong he

was. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to carry

on about it.

 

What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should be

the ONLY question you should care about deeply. What am I doing to

help someone today? Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I do

something to uplift someone? What can I personally do to make our

world a better place? Let's please join together in Amma's prayers and

message with our own actions. How can we love others if we cannot show

love just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE one another.

 

 

in Her divine service,

Adriane

 

 

 

-- In Ammachi , " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman

wrote:

>

> >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's

> hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar

> compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim

> to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you

> are my beloved sibling as well.<<

>

> Temba Spirits,

>

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Aum Namah Shivaya,

My dream is that Satsangs across the country will each adopt Pine

Ridge on their own and send things, donations, clothing. I do not want

to stop until we know each of them has a home free of deadly black

rot, a warm coat and a heater for their brutal winters. I am hopeful

that Satsangs across the country and individuals will get involved

with the very poorest section of the United States. It is not

currently an M.A. Center project per se. We hope in time they will get

involved on some level.

 

If you have questions feel free to call me at 636-928-3554 and I know

Temba has also posted his number before as well. Or you can email me

at ammastlouis

 

in Her service,

adriane

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Namaste

 

dear Adriane and group members. . .please know the service that Temba,

yourself, and

other Amma children are seen as lights and hearts of Amma. . .

 

Since Thanksgiving we have a couple of trolls enter the group. . .no matter

what the subject they pick a controversy. . .The topic is irrelevant. . .

and they chose to present strife rather than join in the love and spirit of

 

Amma. . .Also it looks like there is more than one. . but please remember

a person can sign into the group under different names. . .Such as the

BPL may be another trollie that left before Thanksgiving. . .Look at the

writing

style and the legalism?. . . .

 

I guess it is up to each person to reply to the trolls as they see fit????

The group members of late have formed a loving and sacred space. .

and i am most grateful to them and look forward to reading their

contributions. . .

 

Adriane i did asked the monitor to access these individuals and Keval felt

it is best to not feed

the trolls. . He made the point. . . if they are banned from the group. . .

all they have to do is sign in with a new name?.. . .He has a practical

point

there. . .He thought they were fundamentalist from India. . .but i believe

sb is from the Detroit area????and the kolluir once lived in austin. . .So

maybe they are just homesick and

trying to recreate something in this group that aligns them

with their sense of belongingness???. . . .It must be frustrating for

the Amma group overall does not identify as Christian although many

honor Christ, so all the legalistic punches just roll off most of us. . .

We are AMMA's Children. . .

 

The same with the Native American issue with Tom/PaleBlueLight(?). . .

This whole issue about TURKEYS. . .and how one of the Thanksgiving

traditions is: the Native Americans gave food and Wild Turkies for

the first thanksgiving because the new immigrants where wintering so

hard . . . near starvation. . .Now 500 plus years later. . .Amma's

children are giving the Native American's turkeys because they are

near starvation. . .To complain about Temba and his service to

the Native Ameican " ladeled in legalism " is just plain small. . . . .

 

Amma grew up in a family where her Father was fisherman. . .and many times

when Amma was a child fish where given to the villagers that where needy and

 

hungry. . .different people different cultures. . .sometimes there is need

for situational ethics and action. . .

 

The legalism and condemnation is just screens to reveal some other kind

of darker motion going on here. . . .It is not about the issues. . .but

rather the

egoic that lives and sustains it's life by pointing fingers. . .

 

I really have considered dropping the group because of these kinds of

ongoing attacks. . .but that is what happened in last couple of years

when on individual got a foot hold and everyone just left. . .so for me

the question is if we allow the ongoing attacks then how are we to

be in relationship with it. . .For me, i think it is important to call it

for what it is, and then to not feed it. . .

 

 

All of it makes my heart sad. . .for i am in a situation where this group

is satsang and it is so wonderful when the group is able to come together

in a way that is honoring and breathing of dear Holy Amma. . . For my

self it is time for these trolls to not be fed anymore. . . they have

feasted

this Christmas on Amma/Christ and her children. . . . . .We are

seeing the egoic here. . And it seems that each time we respond to it

it just gives them more goodies??????. . . . .

 

I really appreciate Keval and truly honor the monitoring. . .but wish he

would ban these individuals. . .as many times at it takes, , , We attempt

this group on the web and there are going to be these kind of cyberapaths, ,

 

and the attempt to follow Amma in this group does not mean that we cannot

have healthy boundaries from this kind of ongoing cyberscreed. . .

 

Also, I cannot help but see the irony of SB and Kolluri. . . In the group Sb

set up

there is notation that kolluri was sending in pornography and was being

asked to be removed from the group. . .but these same two (1?) individual/s

come into this group and play the judgment and condemnation card with

people like you and dear Temba as well as every other group member that

displays love and gentleness. . .Lots of shadow stuff going on here with

these

members. . . Lets call it for what it is. . .it is not about the members in

this

group. . .but something that is working through these individuals. . . .

 

Just my two cents worth and a heart request to the group members. . .

May we continue to bring light and love to this group and turn the

rest over to the loving hands and heart of our dear Mother. . .

 

Aum Amriteswaryai Namaha

love

marci

 

 

On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:32 AM, n2amma <a1driane wrote:

 

> Aum Namah Shivaya,

> I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY familiar

> with their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please visit

> www.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened by

> all the caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heart

> wrenching that someone it trying to do something GOOD and he gets

> ripped apart. Think about it, he is sacrificing his TIME and much

> EFFORT to take many things to the reservation and all many of you

> could do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are any

> of us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge of

> this?

>

> All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by M.A.

> Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is best

> spent in HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the best

> food or meat to take to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If more

> people would join in and donate to them, that would be the best way to

> serve as Amma always asks us to do.

>

> Ask yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayer

> is that we spend some time each day. So take some time today to go

> thru your closets and see if you have clothing you can send. Or get

> involved in your local community if you cannot send it off. There are

> people in need all over our own country. Visit a senior center and

> uplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to visit this

> holiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love.

>

> It just saddens me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and a

> blessed heart gets shredded for his very thoughtful and compassionate

> actions. What have each of you done that comes even close to something

> SO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a generous endeavor would be

> what I would expect in this group. And if you don't like what he took,

> you have a delete key. That would have been the most respectful if you

> did not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how wrong he

> was. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to carry

> on about it.

>

> What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should be

> the ONLY question you should care about deeply. What am I doing to

> help someone today? Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I do

> something to uplift someone? What can I personally do to make our

> world a better place? Let's please join together in Amma's prayers and

> message with our own actions. How can we love others if we cannot show

> love just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE one another.

>

> in Her divine service,

> Adriane

>

> -- In Ammachi <Ammachi%40>,

> " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman

>

> wrote:

> >

> > >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's

> > hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar

> > compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim

> > to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you

> > are my beloved sibling as well.<<

> >

> > Temba Spirits,

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Whoa Whoa Adraine,get a hold of yourself.I have not torn Temba's

heart.Its all in your mind.If Amma says,be vegetarian,i wanna be

vegetarian-period.If i cannot be vegetarian,then i will ask Amma

herself to help me becoming one.Isn't she our Sathguru?

 

For generations together people have been indulging in acts,which

makes them obviously happy.You do what makes you happy.But when you

come into the fold of Sathguru like Amma,then Amma devotees are

difinitely going to tell,what Amma wants.If you don't like it,at

least if one keeps trying one can acheive.Otherwise why seek people

like Amma.After all Christ ate meat as per some Christians.I do not

know whether he ate or not,truthfully.Becoz i do not remember my past

life with Christ or Krishna or Rama or Yahway or Allah.But if you

like helping people, do it.I never tore your heart or hurt you,as you

seem to falsely allege.Don't i have a right to protect myself.I am no

Rama,to show my other cheek,when one of you slap me!!Sorry.

 

Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!

 

sb

 

 

Ammachi , " n2amma " <a1driane wrote:

>

> Aum Namah Shivaya,

> I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY familiar

> with their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please visit

> www.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened by

> all the caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heart

> wrenching that someone it trying to do something GOOD and he gets

> ripped apart. Think about it, he is sacrificing his TIME and much

> EFFORT to take many things to the reservation and all many of you

> could do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are any

> of us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge

of

> this?

>

> All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by

M.A.

> Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is best

> spent in HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the best

> food or meat to take to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If

more

> people would join in and donate to them, that would be the best way

to

> serve as Amma always asks us to do.

>

> Ask yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayer

> is that we spend some time each day. So take some time today to go

> thru your closets and see if you have clothing you can send. Or get

> involved in your local community if you cannot send it off. There

are

> people in need all over our own country. Visit a senior center and

> uplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to visit

this

> holiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love.

>

> It just saddens me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and

a

> blessed heart gets shredded for his very thoughtful and

compassionate

> actions. What have each of you done that comes even close to

something

> SO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a generous endeavor would be

> what I would expect in this group. And if you don't like what he

took,

> you have a delete key. That would have been the most respectful if

you

> did not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how wrong

he

> was. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to

carry

> on about it.

>

> What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should be

> the ONLY question you should care about deeply. What am I doing to

> help someone today? Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I

do

> something to uplift someone? What can I personally do to make our

> world a better place? Let's please join together in Amma's prayers

and

> message with our own actions. How can we love others if we cannot

show

> love just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE one another.

>

>

> in Her divine service,

> Adriane

>

>

>

> -- In Ammachi , " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman@>

> wrote:

> >

> > >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's

> > hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure

thar

> > compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you

claim

> > to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my

relatives.you

> > are my beloved sibling as well.<<

> >

> > Temba Spirits,

> >

>

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<moderator's note>

This group is not an official organ of the Amma organization. It exists simply

as a forum for devotees of Amma and has never been established or approved by

the MA Center.

 

</moderator's note>

 

I agree with SB here. Are you not asking for help on this AMMA

LIST? Would the moderators tolerate such repeated soliciting if it

hadn't already been approved by swami-ji, even just the soliciting of

funds for the bus trip for these people?

 

Let someone bring up another seva, AND ignore Amma's teaching on it.

Oh, but I'm sure with everyone's current attitude you don't have to

follow Amma's teachings in your sewas, just do what you want and as

long as the majority approves, you're ok.

 

If one is not going to follow Amma's wishes in their sevas mentioned

here, no matter the official status, then the moderator should prevent

messages soliciting help for them.

 

Ammachi , " sureshbalaraman "

<sureshbalaraman wrote:

 

> Whoa Whoa Adraine,get a hold of yourself.I have not torn Temba's

> heart.Its all in your mind.If Amma says,be vegetarian,i wanna be

> vegetarian-period.If i cannot be vegetarian,then i will ask Amma

> herself to help me becoming one.Isn't she our Sathguru?

>

> For generations together people have been indulging in acts,which

> makes them obviously happy.You do what makes you happy.But when you

> come into the fold of Sathguru like Amma,then Amma devotees are

> difinitely going to tell,what Amma wants.If you don't like it,at

> least if one keeps trying one can acheive.Otherwise why seek people

> like Amma.After all Christ ate meat as per some Christians.I do not

> know whether he ate or not,truthfully.Becoz i do not remember my past

> life with Christ or Krishna or Rama or Yahway or Allah.But if you

> like helping people, do it.I never tore your heart or hurt you,as you

> seem to falsely allege.Don't i have a right to protect myself.I am no

> Rama,to show my other cheek,when one of you slap me!!Sorry.

>

> Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!

>

> sb

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THIS DREAM IS COMING TO PASS RIGHT iN FRONT OF US.STEVIE WONDER COULD SEE THAT

AMMAs RESOLVE IS IN THIS.READ AMMAS DREAM BELOVED FAMILY.THOSE THAT SEE THIS

DREAM that our beloved adriane has expressed have tapped into the WORLD OF AMMAs

DREAM.

 

What adrianne has expressed is the ESSENCE OF what this is all

about.AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMMA,AMM\

A,AMMA.............

 

stay oh FIRE beloved adriane!641-233-8255... i will be sending the pictures

today

 

 

 

 

 

Ammachi: a1driane: Sat, 27 Dec 2008

16:44:30 +0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

 

 

 

Aum Namah Shivaya,My dream is that Satsangs across the country will each adopt

PineRidge on their own and send things, donations, clothing. I do not wantto

stop until we know each of them has a home free of deadly blackrot, a warm coat

and a heater for their brutal winters. I am hopefulthat Satsangs across the

country and individuals will get involvedwith the very poorest section of the

United States. It is notcurrently an M.A. Center project per se. We hope in time

they will getinvolved on some level. If you have questions feel free to call me

at 636-928-3554 and I knowTemba has also posted his number before as well. Or

you can email meat ammastlouis in Her service,adriane

 

 

 

 

 

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somehow as long as we stand in the love for all involved the disagreeable

comments bring forth more grace.SHE IS SO WONDERFUL.

 

Ammachi: a1driane: Sat, 27 Dec 2008

16:32:27 +0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

 

 

 

Aum Namah Shivaya,I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY

familiarwith their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please

visitwww.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened byall the

caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heartwrenching that someone

it trying to do something GOOD and he getsripped apart. Think about it, he is

sacrificing his TIME and muchEFFORT to take many things to the reservation and

all many of youcould do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are

anyof us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge

ofthis?All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by

M.A.Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is bestspent in

HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the bestfood or meat to take

to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If morepeople would join in and donate

to them, that would be the best way toserve as Amma always asks us to do. Ask

yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayeris that we spend

some time each day. So take some time today to gothru your closets and see if

you have clothing you can send. Or getinvolved in your local community if you

cannot send it off. There arepeople in need all over our own country. Visit a

senior center anduplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to

visit thisholiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love. It just saddens

me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and ablessed heart gets shredded

for his very thoughtful and compassionateactions. What have each of you done

that comes even close to somethingSO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a

generous endeavor would bewhat I would expect in this group. And if you don't

like what he took,you have a delete key. That would have been the most

respectful if youdid not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how

wrong hewas. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to carryon

about it. What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should bethe ONLY

question you should care about deeply. What am I doing tohelp someone today?

Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I dosomething to uplift someone?

What can I personally do to make ourworld a better place? Let's please join

together in Amma's prayers andmessage with our own actions. How can we love

others if we cannot showlove just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE

one another.in Her divine service,Adriane-- In Ammachi ,

" sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaramanwrote:>> >>all i am saying beloved is to

not eat the flesh of the people's> hearts that you are trying to reach with your

message.make sure thar> compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved

do you claim> to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my

relatives.you> are my beloved sibling as well.<<> > Temba Spirits,>

 

 

 

 

 

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thankyou

 

Ammachi: sureshbalaraman: Sat, 27 Dec 2008

01:09:54 +0000 Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children

 

 

 

>>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people'shearts that you

are trying to reach with your message.make sure tharcompassion is at the core of

your statements.and beloved do you claimto know who my ancestors are.i claim all

humanity as my relatives.youare my beloved sibling as well.<<Temba Spirits,I am

compassionate.What goes between peoples ears,i have no controlover it ie your

brain & thought process.The little that i know,NativeAmerican traditions,Mayan

Civilisations etc ,are similiar if notidentical to practices of ancient

Bharathians aka Indians today.As toexactly where your tribe fits,is a veritable

challenge to peg it,isuggest when you have time available after your stupendous

helpingwork in your community in charities,do spend reading about

ns.For 800 years of Islamic terrorism plus 200 years of

christianterrorism...despite such coercive evil

forces...ourforefathers/foremothers survived,only becoz they

reciprocatedlove,thru living example.Ammachi is an embodiment of love.Love

her,shewill guide miraculously,is my simple suggestion,which i think ,youalready

are doing.Living in harmony with nature and natural forces,is the bedrock

ofSanathana Dharma.Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!Shri Hari Sharanam Mama !!Om Na Ma

Shi Va Ya !!sbAmmachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits

wrote:>> > all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people'shearts

that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure tharcompassion is at

the core of your statements.and beloved do you claimto know who my ancestors

are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.youare my beloved sibling as well.> >

Ammachi: sureshbalaraman: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:23:08+0000Subject:

Re: Christmas with AMMAs Lakota children> > > > Dear Temba

Spirits,>>your response to me was that of a meat eaterbeloved.it was if youwere

tearing into a peice of meat in yourresponse to me.should notthe vegan,or

vegetarian be a moregentle?<<Please follow your traditions and culture.Even if

god

givesinabundanceVegetables,Fruits,Nuts,DriedFruits,Lentils,Rice,Wheat,Corn,Barle\

y.....allknown Vegetarian orVegan products,i beg you eat

fleshofbeef,pork,chicken,lamb,goat....as this your

culture,thatyourforefathers/foremothers taught you.More than that,the

populationofanimal kingdom will overtake population of humans..i would

ratherhavemy species around,instead of a tiger,lion,boa constrictor....:)And you

are absolutely right in continuing to do so.RegardlesswhetherAmma eats or ate or

whether Christ ate or not.Listen toyourparents,elders,and your pitrus.....be

happy.Merry Christmas.sbShriAmma Sharanam Mama Shri Hari Sharanam MamaOm Na Ma

Shi Va Ya sb--- InAmmachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits@>

wrote:>> >thankyou beloved for your insight.you are truly one of

AMMAsdarlingchildren.please find it in your heart to forgive me.if yourecall

,atthe bottom of my e-mail i requested forgiveness in fallingshort inanyway.i am

but a peice of flesh myself.just a vessel.just apersontrying to give his all.> i

will try my best to do better nexttime.please have a great dayand thankyou once

again for correcting meso that i can become moreeffective in serving.> > you

know beloved,inthe Lakota tradition, the Buffalo wasconsidered a great

teacher.theLakota used every part of theBuffalo.nothing got wasted.they even

atethe meat.it was the lovebehind the situation that made it sobeautiful.the

pygmys of the congoin africa at a lot of meat and livedin perfect peace for

thousands ofyears until the invasion of theirsacred culture.> > your response to

me was that of a meat eaterbeloved.it was ifyou were tearing into a peice of

meat in yourresponse to me.shouldnot the vegan,or vegetarian be a more gentle?>

>what is the point of eating healthy if if your heart and mind issoaggresive?a

self rightous vegan ,or vegetarian is stilleatingmeat.the meat that they eat is

just more sublte.you cannot seeit withthe human eye,but it comes out in the way

they treat others.> >Jesus ate fish and so did AMMA when an animal brought it to

HERwhileShe was homeless.it was the love behind it that made it so beauiful.>> i

tried my best to bring Organic turkeys.they were toexspensive.itried my best to

get the Ayurvedic vegitarian food fromthe universitybut they would not give it

to us.people are starving onthisreservation .should they not eat because they

dont have accesstoother food?> > please forgive us.> > > > > > > > > > To:

Ammachi@:ksvas97@: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:42:34-0800Re: Christmas

with AMMAs Lakota children> > > > LOL! You say pary for ALLbeings but, at the

same time you takedead/killed animals- turkeys foreating.Aniamals eat

animals!right?See the following video.Spiritualityand cruely will not

gotogether. They are in

differentdirections.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybUV1rSLllg & feature=relatedOu\

m NamahShivayah!Srinivas K --- On Mon, 12/22/08, tembaspirits<tembaspirits@>

wrote:tembaspirits<tembaspirits@> Christmas with

AMMAsLakotachildren " my family. "

<ammachi >Date:Monday,December 22, 2008, 9:58 PMdear beloved

family and darlingchildren ofAMMA,tommorow( tues,dec. 23rd) we will be traveling

to PineRidgeReservation to spend Christmas with AMMAs beloved

LakotanativeAmerican children.we are bringing two truck loads of toys

andstuffedanimals for the children,winter blankets and clothing,heatersandother

gifts. We are also bring 60 frozen turkeys.All the presentsweredonated and we

raised money to buy the turkeys and supply thegas.50percent of the items are

brand new.the journey will be a twelvehourdrive and the forecast looks okay for

traveling. Please be so kindtoremember us in your prayers as you pray for ALL

beings ,that wemayhave a safe journey and that we may remember that AMMA is

theonlydoer and that it is AMMA that we are going to visit.Please prayfor usthat

we may have the wisdom to realize that LOVE is serving usbyallowing us to serve.

Please pray for us that we are able totrulyshare with the native's ,

AMMAscompassion and not ours.we willtakepictures and we will do our best to

smile and have fun.thankyousomuch and forgive me if i have fallen short in

anyway. May ourbelovedAMMA be pleased.namah shivaya, temba ____________

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Hear, hear! And i would add that Amma would not be in favor of

attacking people in the name of vegetarianism or anything else that

she teaches, least of all in her name.

 

Max

 

>I think most of us who are working with Pine Ridge are VERY familiar

>with their circumstances and are trying to fix it. Please visit

>www.naha-inc.org if you'd like to learn more. I am very saddened by

>all the caustic criticism of Temba and his seva. It's really heart

>wrenching that someone it trying to do something GOOD and he gets

>ripped apart. Think about it, he is sacrificing his TIME and much

>EFFORT to take many things to the reservation and all many of you

>could do is tell him how his choice of TURKEY is wrong?? Who are any

>of us to decide what is right or wrong? Since when are we in charge of

>this?

>

>All this debating is a waste of our time. It is not sanctioned by M.A.

>Center neither my project nor Temba's at this time. Our time is best

>spent in HELPING rather than tearing each other apart over the best

>food or meat to take to starving people. Why not HELP instead? If more

>people would join in and donate to them, that would be the best way to

>serve as Amma always asks us to do.

>

>Ask yourself, what have I done today to help the poor? Amma's prayer

>is that we spend some time each day. So take some time today to go

>thru your closets and see if you have clothing you can send. Or get

>involved in your local community if you cannot send it off. There are

>people in need all over our own country. Visit a senior center and

>uplift those who have no family, many areas have orphans to visit this

>holiday season. Take a basket of candy and your love.

>

>It just saddens me deeply that when Temba in good faith in Amma and a

>blessed heart gets shredded for his very thoughtful and compassionate

>actions. What have each of you done that comes even close to something

>SO GENEROUS? Being supportive of such a generous endeavor would be

>what I would expect in this group. And if you don't like what he took,

>you have a delete key. That would have been the most respectful if you

>did not like what he took rather than trying to tell him how wrong he

>was. It really really was wrong for each of you who did this to carry

>on about it.

>

>What are YOU doing to help the poor today? THAT should be

>the ONLY question you should care about deeply. What am I doing to

>help someone today? Have I shared a smile with someone today? Did I do

>something to uplift someone? What can I personally do to make our

>world a better place? Let's please join together in Amma's prayers and

>message with our own actions. How can we love others if we cannot show

>love just even to our fellow people on our list? LOVE one another.

>

>in Her divine service,

>Adriane

>

>-- In <Ammachi%40>Ammachi ,

> " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman

>wrote:

>>

>> >>all i am saying beloved is to not eat the flesh of the people's

>> hearts that you are trying to reach with your message.make sure thar

>> compassion is at the core of your statements.and beloved do you claim

>> to know who my ancestors are.i claim all humanity as my relatives.you

>> are my beloved sibling as well.<<

>>

>> Temba Spirits,

>>

>

>

 

 

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