The last war. . . .

[Guest guest]

Marci,

 

>>svasti prajabhyam paripalayantham nyayeana margena mahim maheesah

go-brahmane-bhya shubamsthu nityam lokah samastha sukhino bhavanthu

 

May there be well being to the people;

May the kings rule the earth along the right path;

May the cattle and the Brahmins have well being forever;

May all the beings in all the worlds become happy;

Peace, peace and peace be everywhere!<<

 

 

 

People live in peace even in these dire straits,becoz of the

international communication which exists,we are able to understand,all

people,with different degree of differences,undergo the same

emotions,with their perspectives.

 

Amma's words are like soothing balm.Satgurus have been existing for

eons,and will continue to exist and spread peace & amity.

 

When it comes to cattle,Brahmins in particular,Sanathana Dharma aka

Hinduism popularly,still maintains,its distinct identity.But Brahmin's

are not being protected nor are they being respected.One could always

debate on this,as to why it is so?

 

All the beings are happy.Even the terrorists are human beings.By

terrorising Mumbai,they wanted to send a message to

Indians(Hindus),Americans,British(Christians),Israel(Judaism)........the\

y chose Mumbai,becoz its the hub of financial market of India with

international collabaration.The root cause of this problem that India in

particular is having repeated assaults on its people & land &

interest,is becoz Hindus by nature are peace loving people,with a

different philosophy of theology,which is in total variance ,with

majority Abrahamic faiths viz Christanity,Islam,Judaism.These three

religions are actually rooted in B R A H M A A and S A R A S W A T H Y (

Abraham and Sara).AS Abraham is the initiator of sorts for

Moses,Jesus,Mohammad...these three religion fail to see the connection

or the spiritual consciousness that they originate from.

 

The popular notion existing today,that India ( Bharatham ) and its

borders are limited to what it is shown in world maps.Many Many

centuries back,the present day

Egypt,Mecca,Medina,Jerusalem-Nazareth,Russian Territories,Mayan

Lands,Native Americans Lands,Far-East,Far-West,North Pole,South

Pole...in a nutshell Bhu-Loka,belonged to Bharathians and its various

cultural moorings one way or the other.Migrations always took place

,either as peaceful movement or forced thru violence of war.

 

The Mumbai terror acts are gepolitical in nature,so that India does not

rise as political or economic or military,world power,thereby deny a

seat in United Nations Security Council.Keeping India tied down with a

tiny nation like Pakistan ( who are actually Indian people(Hindus) who

got converted to Islam at the point of swords 800 years back in

India),serves the purpose of Christian Dominated countries,Islam

Dominated Countries,Communist dominated countries....as these are the

countries who are profited by selling arms to both sides of the dispute.

 

Today Indian goverment must attack Pakistan and make its borders combine

back with India,as it was prior to partition.The British Christian White

English,with their diabolical mental make up,had no biz to divide

Bharatham ( India ).But they did,and even today,its these Christian

dominated nations which are meddling and profiting,by default.

 

Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!

 

Shri Hari Sharanam Mama !!

 

Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya !!

 

 

 

sb

 

 

 

 

 

Ammachi , " mm " <ammarci108 wrote:

>

> NamasteBeen thinking about the terrorist strike on Mumbai as i am sure

> many others are also . . found myself searching for Amma's words and

> teaching and came across this article by Bruce Larson Moore and

thought

> i would share it. . . .for it seems to breathe by Amma. . . .

>

>

> The Last War

>

> Freedom, Peace and Security will NEVER be won nor secured by the

sword,

> another war will always need to be fought to end the fear of the sharp

> blade against the vital thoughts of change.

>

> The last war will be waged without soldiers or freedom fighters,

without

> blood shed or death, no rockets red glare, no bombs bursting anywhere.

>

> The last war will not cause suffering, broken hearts, splintered

> spirits, or shattered bodies and souls, the creation of nature and man

> will not be crushed under the rolling thunder of armored machines,

> chemicals will not rain down from above, maniacal viruses will not

> attack from within, suicide terror raids, genocide, and nuclear

> holocaust will have no place in the last war, the casualties will be

the

> end of competition, industry, government and religion which plan for

and

> carry out the destruction, addiction and control of others.

>

> The last war will be waged BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE, a war where

all

> things will be TREATED as equal, a war employing weapons of MASS

> COOPERATION, battles fought and won with tolerance for all,

> understanding of difference, awareness of responsibility, a war in

which

> compassion and love conquer and destroy the final evil enemy of

> humankind, the last war, the mother of all wars, the war to end all

> wars, must be waged upon fear.

>

> We the People, declare a global war on fear.

>

> How do we the people start this war, how do we wage this war, how do

we

> the people win the last war?

>

> We start by turning away from those who support fear, by denying our

> services, our employment, our political, financial, moral and

spiritual

> support to those who build and profit from the economy of competition,

> addiction and war.

>

> We wage the last war by demanding that our energy and environment be

> clean and renewable, by demanding that the thousands of billions of

> dollars spent yearly on making the weapons and means of war be shifted

> and added to the nearly meaningless hundreds of billions which is

> reluctantly parted out for social, health, education and domestic

> infrastructure.

>

> We win the last war by simply entrusting our votes, our support, our

> children's and grandchildren's lives to those of US whose words and

> actions DELIVER love and truth.

>

> We the people can, will and must defeat fear.

> by Bruce Larson*Moore

>

>

> svasti prajabhyam paripalayantham nyayeana margena mahim maheesah

> gobrahmanebhya shubamsthu nityam lokah samastha sukhino bhavanthu

>

> May there be well being to the people;

> May the kings rule the earth along the right path;

> May the cattle and the Brahmins have well being forever;

> May all the beings in all the worlds become happy;

> Peace, peace and peace be everywhere!

>

> Aum Amriteswaryai Namaha

>

> marci

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

" We pledge support with India " said President Bush just couple of

minutes back.Unfortunately,there is no one advicing President Bush,that

this is an oppurtunity of a lifetime,to undo the past mistake,a

republican president Nixon did in 1971,when he thundered to send the

seventh fleet to fight against Indians and kill them alongwith Pakistani

General.Ayub Khan.

 

If Americans are smart,they will ditch,Pakistanis,be it political or

military leaders of this country Pakistan.And stand with Indians

politically,Militarily,spiritually as one.Pakistanis establishment

extracted their revenge on Americans,when 9/11 happened,becoz the

perception of Pakistani Military and the Political leadership,is that

Americans used Pakistanis(Muslims) against USSR in Afghanistan,and when

the job was done,Americans cooly left

Pakistanis,Afghanistanis,Saudis...(Mujahideens) to their survival.

 

Now,the treacherous Muslims are paying back to

Christians,Hindus,Jews..of the world.

 

I HOPE AMMA'S LOVE PERMEATES EVERY PORE OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD,AND SOON

COME INTO COMMON SENSE.

 

Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!

 

Shri Hari Sharanam Mama!!

 

Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya !!

 

sb

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ammachi , " sureshbalaraman " <sureshbalaraman

wrote:

>

>

> Marci,

>

> >>svasti prajabhyam paripalayantham nyayeana margena mahim maheesah

> go-brahmane-bhya shubamsthu nityam lokah samastha sukhino bhavanthu

>

> May there be well being to the people;

> May the kings rule the earth along the right path;

> May the cattle and the Brahmins have well being forever;

> May all the beings in all the worlds become happy;

> Peace, peace and peace be everywhere!<<

>

>

>

> People live in peace even in these dire straits,becoz of the

> international communication which exists,we are able to understand,all

> people,with different degree of differences,undergo the same

> emotions,with their perspectives.

>

> Amma's words are like soothing balm.Satgurus have been existing for

> eons,and will continue to exist and spread peace & amity.

>

> When it comes to cattle,Brahmins in particular,Sanathana Dharma aka

> Hinduism popularly,still maintains,its distinct identity.But Brahmin's

> are not being protected nor are they being respected.One could always

> debate on this,as to why it is so?

>

> All the beings are happy.Even the terrorists are human beings.By

> terrorising Mumbai,they wanted to send a message to

>

Indians(Hindus),Americans,British(Christians),Israel(Judaism)........the\

\

> y chose Mumbai,becoz its the hub of financial market of India with

> international collabaration.The root cause of this problem that India

in

> particular is having repeated assaults on its people & land &

> interest,is becoz Hindus by nature are peace loving people,with a

> different philosophy of theology,which is in total variance ,with

> majority Abrahamic faiths viz Christanity,Islam,Judaism.These three

> religions are actually rooted in B R A H M A A and S A R A S W A T H Y

(

> Abraham and Sara).AS Abraham is the initiator of sorts for

> Moses,Jesus,Mohammad...these three religion fail to see the connection

> or the spiritual consciousness that they originate from.

>

> The popular notion existing today,that India ( Bharatham ) and its

> borders are limited to what it is shown in world maps.Many Many

> centuries back,the present day

> Egypt,Mecca,Medina,Jerusalem-Nazareth,Russian Territories,Mayan

> Lands,Native Americans Lands,Far-East,Far-West,North Pole,South

> Pole...in a nutshell Bhu-Loka,belonged to Bharathians and its various

> cultural moorings one way or the other.Migrations always took place

> ,either as peaceful movement or forced thru violence of war.

>

> The Mumbai terror acts are gepolitical in nature,so that India does

not

> rise as political or economic or military,world power,thereby deny a

> seat in United Nations Security Council.Keeping India tied down with a

> tiny nation like Pakistan ( who are actually Indian people(Hindus) who

> got converted to Islam at the point of swords 800 years back in

> India),serves the purpose of Christian Dominated countries,Islam

> Dominated Countries,Communist dominated countries....as these are the

> countries who are profited by selling arms to both sides of the

dispute.

>

> Today Indian goverment must attack Pakistan and make its borders

combine

> back with India,as it was prior to partition.The British Christian

White

> English,with their diabolical mental make up,had no biz to divide

> Bharatham ( India ).But they did,and even today,its these Christian

> dominated nations which are meddling and profiting,by default.

>

> Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!

>

> Shri Hari Sharanam Mama !!

>

> Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya !!

>

>

>

> sb

>

>

>

>

>

> Ammachi , " mm " ammarci108@ wrote:

> >

> > NamasteBeen thinking about the terrorist strike on Mumbai as i am

sure

> > many others are also . . found myself searching for Amma's words and

> > teaching and came across this article by Bruce Larson Moore and

> thought

> > i would share it. . . .for it seems to breathe by Amma. . . .

> >

> >

> > The Last War

> >

> > Freedom, Peace and Security will NEVER be won nor secured by the

> sword,

> > another war will always need to be fought to end the fear of the

sharp

> > blade against the vital thoughts of change.

> >

> > The last war will be waged without soldiers or freedom fighters,

> without

> > blood shed or death, no rockets red glare, no bombs bursting

anywhere.

> >

> > The last war will not cause suffering, broken hearts, splintered

> > spirits, or shattered bodies and souls, the creation of nature and

man

> > will not be crushed under the rolling thunder of armored machines,

> > chemicals will not rain down from above, maniacal viruses will not

> > attack from within, suicide terror raids, genocide, and nuclear

> > holocaust will have no place in the last war, the casualties will be

> the

> > end of competition, industry, government and religion which plan for

> and

> > carry out the destruction, addiction and control of others.

> >

> > The last war will be waged BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE, a war where

> all

> > things will be TREATED as equal, a war employing weapons of MASS

> > COOPERATION, battles fought and won with tolerance for all,

> > understanding of difference, awareness of responsibility, a war in

> which

> > compassion and love conquer and destroy the final evil enemy of

> > humankind, the last war, the mother of all wars, the war to end all

> > wars, must be waged upon fear.

> >

> > We the People, declare a global war on fear.

> >

> > How do we the people start this war, how do we wage this war, how do

> we

> > the people win the last war?

> >

> > We start by turning away from those who support fear, by denying our

> > services, our employment, our political, financial, moral and

> spiritual

> > support to those who build and profit from the economy of

competition,

> > addiction and war.

> >

> > We wage the last war by demanding that our energy and environment be

> > clean and renewable, by demanding that the thousands of billions of

> > dollars spent yearly on making the weapons and means of war be

shifted

> > and added to the nearly meaningless hundreds of billions which is

> > reluctantly parted out for social, health, education and domestic

> > infrastructure.

> >

> > We win the last war by simply entrusting our votes, our support, our

> > children's and grandchildren's lives to those of US whose words and

> > actions DELIVER love and truth.

> >

> > We the people can, will and must defeat fear.

> > by Bruce Larson*Moore

> >

> >

> > svasti prajabhyam paripalayantham nyayeana margena mahim maheesah

> > gobrahmanebhya shubamsthu nityam lokah samastha sukhino bhavanthu

> >

> > May there be well being to the people;

> > May the kings rule the earth along the right path;

> > May the cattle and the Brahmins have well being forever;

> > May all the beings in all the worlds become happy;

> > Peace, peace and peace be everywhere!

> >

> > Aum Amriteswaryai Namaha

> >

> > marci

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Just a friendly reminder...particularly if you are contemplating posting a

message about the terrorist attacks in Bombay..

 

This list is not a forum for discussion of Indian politics, India-right-or-wrong

patriotic jingoism, Hindu supremacist screeds, promotion of Hindu nationalism

(RSS, Shiv Sena, et al), advocating going to war against Pakistan,

Islam-bashing, or bashing the " British White Christians " for centuries of

colonialism and/or bungling the partition of India some 60 years ago.

 

" Hindu supremacist screeds " also includes that ridiculous argument that Hinduism

is the ancestor of the Abrahamic religions because - by sheer coincidence -

" Abraham " is " Brahma " anagrammed. Totally irrelevant to Amma and her teachings.

I believe Amma would say to the followers of the Abrahamic religions simply to

try to become a better Jew/Christian/Muslim, not that Hinduism is superior to

and the ancestor of all other religions.

 

And with that, I am on to Motown... Jai Ma!

 

Keval

[Guest guest]

>> " Hindu supremacist screeds " also includes that ridiculous argument

that Hinduism

is the ancestor of the Abrahamic religions because - by sheer

coincidence -

" Abraham " is " Brahma " anagrammed. Totally irrelevant to Amma and her

teachings.

I believe Amma would say to the followers of the Abrahamic religions

simply to

try to become a better Jew/Christian/Muslim, not that Hinduism is

superior to

and the ancestor of all other religions.<<

 

Its not a argument.Its called reincarnation.Coincidence do not happen

coincidently.Amma herself is solely dependant on these Sanathana Dharma

principles,to preach philosophy.What your perception about Amma is only

your perception.Unless Amma has given you in particular,a free entry

into her mind,rofl.Keval,your message is really " Kevalam " to say the

least.

 

 

 

Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!

 

Shri Hari Sharanam Mama !!

 

 

 

Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya !!

 

 

 

sb

 

 

 

Ammachi , Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote:

>

>

> Just a friendly reminder...particularly if you are contemplating

posting a message about the terrorist attacks in Bombay..

>

> This list is not a forum for discussion of Indian politics,

India-right-or-wrong patriotic jingoism, Hindu supremacist screeds,

promotion of Hindu nationalism (RSS, Shiv Sena, et al), advocating going

to war against Pakistan, Islam-bashing, or bashing the " British White

Christians " for centuries of colonialism and/or bungling the partition

of India some 60 years ago.

>

> " Hindu supremacist screeds " also includes that ridiculous argument

that Hinduism is the ancestor of the Abrahamic religions because - by

sheer coincidence - " Abraham " is " Brahma " anagrammed. Totally irrelevant

to Amma and her teachings. I believe Amma would say to the followers of

the Abrahamic religions simply to try to become a better

Jew/Christian/Muslim, not that Hinduism is superior to and the ancestor

of all other religions.

>

> And with that, I am on to Motown... Jai Ma!

>

> Keval

>

[Guest guest]

Keval,

Thanks for moderating this discussion that truly is not appropriate on

here. Amma is not into bashing anyone's religion or providing

discourse on who is right or wrong in politics. I hope we can drop it

and respect the moderator's guidelines for our AMMA group.

 

Jai Ma and off to the Michigan retreat soon! I cannot wait to see our

Divine Mother.

 

at Her feet,

Adriane

 

 

Ammachi , Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote:

>

>

> Just a friendly reminder...particularly if you are contemplating

posting a message about the terrorist attacks in Bombay..

>

> This list is not a forum for discussion of Indian politics,

India-right-or-wrong patriotic jingoism, Hindu supremacist screeds,

promotion of Hindu nationalism (RSS, Shiv Sena, et al), advocating

going to war against Pakistan, Islam-bashing, or bashing the " British

White Christians " for centuries of colonialism and/or bungling the

partition of India some 60 years ago.

>

> " Hindu supremacist screeds " also includes that ridiculous argument

that Hinduism is the ancestor of the Abrahamic religions because - by

sheer coincidence - " Abraham " is " Brahma " anagrammed. Totally

irrelevant to Amma and her teachings. I believe Amma would say to the

followers of the Abrahamic religions simply to try to become a better

Jew/Christian/Muslim, not that Hinduism is superior to and the

ancestor of all other religions.

>

> And with that, I am on to Motown... Jai Ma!

>

> Keval

>

[Guest guest]

Ok.I guess i need to improve on my writing skills as moderator is upset

as well as you, or its, the space between your ears ,making you process

an animosity towards my writings.Whatever!!!!

 

Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!

 

Shri Hari Sharanam Mama !!

 

Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya !!

 

sb

Ammachi , " n2amma " <a1driane wrote:

>

> Keval,

> Thanks for moderating this discussion that truly is not appropriate on

> here. Amma is not into bashing anyone's religion or providing

> discourse on who is right or wrong in politics. I hope we can drop it

> and respect the moderator's guidelines for our AMMA group.

>

> Jai Ma and off to the Michigan retreat soon! I cannot wait to see our

> Divine Mother.

>

> at Her feet,

> Adriane

>

>

> Ammachi , Mike Brooker patria1818@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Just a friendly reminder...particularly if you are contemplating

> posting a message about the terrorist attacks in Bombay..

> >

> > This list is not a forum for discussion of Indian politics,

> India-right-or-wrong patriotic jingoism, Hindu supremacist screeds,

> promotion of Hindu nationalism (RSS, Shiv Sena, et al), advocating

> going to war against Pakistan, Islam-bashing, or bashing the " British

> White Christians " for centuries of colonialism and/or bungling the

> partition of India some 60 years ago.

> >

> > " Hindu supremacist screeds " also includes that ridiculous argument

> that Hinduism is the ancestor of the Abrahamic religions because - by

> sheer coincidence - " Abraham " is " Brahma " anagrammed. Totally

> irrelevant to Amma and her teachings. I believe Amma would say to the

> followers of the Abrahamic religions simply to try to become a better

> Jew/Christian/Muslim, not that Hinduism is superior to and the

> ancestor of all other religions.

> >

> > And with that, I am on to Motown... Jai Ma!

> >

> > Keval

> >

>

[Guest guest]

It's important in such dire moments to keep in

mind the broad picture. Here's some info that i

haven't seen in any mainstream press reports:

 

http://www.jewishjournal.com/thegodblog/item/muslims_condemn_mubai_terror_attack\

_20081126/

 

Muslims worldwide have been denouncing the

attacks, and not parsing their words. This

condemnation is from MuslimMatters.org:

 

Regardless of who was involved, the people who

carried these attacks out are animals, with

little sense of humanity or morality.

 

As Muslims, we condemn such senseless carnage

against innocent civilians, wherever it may

occur. This goes against the fundamental spirit

of Islam, which promotes a culture of life and

humanity, not bloodshed and violence. And another

example of why extremist ideology, whatever that

ideology may be, needs to be refuted and

condemned.

 

" Whoever kills a person [unjustly]Š it is as

though he has killed all mankind. And whoever

saves a life, it is as though he had saved all

mankind. " (Qur'an, 5:32)

 

Today, we join all Indians in expressing our

outrage and our condemnation of this senseless

spilling of innocent blood.

 

May Allah grant patience to the victims of

terrorism, and may He extract full justice

against the perpetrators.

 

Leaders of Muslim Majority Nations

 

From

Egypt, Arab League Slam Mumbai 'Terrorism'

Agence Frances Presse and Africasia (UK)

November 27, 2008

 

--

Max Dashu

Suppressed Histories Archives

http://www.suppressedhistories.net

 

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http://www.suppressedhistories.net/womenspowerdvd.html

[Guest guest]

No darling one, not upset at all. Just want to read Amma posts mainly.

No biggie so please be at peace.

 

Amma loves us all no matter what we do so let's treat one another with

love alone as much as possible.

 

Ammachi , " sureshbalaraman "

<sureshbalaraman wrote:

>

>

> Ok.I guess i need to improve on my writing skills as moderator is upset

> as well as you, or its, the space between your ears ,making you process

> an animosity towards my writings.Whatever!!!!

>

> Shri Amma Sharanam Mama !!

>

> Shri Hari Sharanam Mama !!

>

> Om Na Ma Shi Va Ya !!

>

> sb

> Ammachi , " n2amma " <a1driane@> wrote:

> >

> > Keval,

> > Thanks for moderating this discussion that truly is not appropriate on

> > here. Amma is not into bashing anyone's religion or providing

> > discourse on who is right or wrong in politics. I hope we can drop it

> > and respect the moderator's guidelines for our AMMA group.

> >

> > Jai Ma and off to the Michigan retreat soon! I cannot wait to see our

> > Divine Mother.

> >

> > at Her feet,

> > Adriane

> >

> >

> > Ammachi , Mike Brooker patria1818@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Just a friendly reminder...particularly if you are contemplating

> > posting a message about the terrorist attacks in Bombay..

> > >

> > > This list is not a forum for discussion of Indian politics,

> > India-right-or-wrong patriotic jingoism, Hindu supremacist screeds,

> > promotion of Hindu nationalism (RSS, Shiv Sena, et al), advocating

> > going to war against Pakistan, Islam-bashing, or bashing the " British

> > White Christians " for centuries of colonialism and/or bungling the

> > partition of India some 60 years ago.

> > >

> > > " Hindu supremacist screeds " also includes that ridiculous argument

> > that Hinduism is the ancestor of the Abrahamic religions because - by

> > sheer coincidence - " Abraham " is " Brahma " anagrammed. Totally

> > irrelevant to Amma and her teachings. I believe Amma would say to the

> > followers of the Abrahamic religions simply to try to become a better

> > Jew/Christian/Muslim, not that Hinduism is superior to and the

> > ancestor of all other religions.

> > >

> > > And with that, I am on to Motown... Jai Ma!

> > >

> > > Keval

> > >

> >

>